Shady Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 Well, an outspoken critic of ol'Vlad the Impaler met an unfortunate end today. Shot dead in Moscow one day before a big planned protest against Mr. Vlad's shenanigans. Obviously this must just be a big ol'coincidence right? MOSCOW (AP) -- Boris Nemtsov, a charismatic Russian opposition leader and sharp critic of President Vladimir Putin, was gunned down Saturday near the Kremlin, just a day before a planned protest against the government. The death of Nemtsov, a 55-year-old former deputy prime minister, ignited a fury among opposition figures who assailed the Kremlin for creating an atmosphere of intolerance of any dissent and called the killing an assassination. Putin quickly offered his condolences and called the murder a provocation. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_RUSSIA_OPPOSITION_LEADER_KILLED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-02-27-17-48-35 It's really rich that Vlad offered his condolences. Quote
msj Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 I'm sure there are people who will blame Nemtsov for directly confronting Putin. I mean how dare someone stand up against a tyrant? Didn't he know he had it coming? You know because, America. And so forth. Nauseating. Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Bob Macadoo Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 What is the debate point here? Is it "Is Putin a mafioso boss or is he run by his oligarch cartel?" or is it "Is Putin resurrecting Soviet/KGB tactics and can it continue in a "free market" socio-economic society?" Just how are you trying to bait people in this thread? Quote
cybercoma Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 Shady, are you under the mistaken impression that anyone here supports Putin? Quote
jacee Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 Shady, are you under the mistaken impression that anyone here supports Putin? I don't think so. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 I don't think so. So some here support Putin? Quote
Topaz Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) I'm not saying the following article is true or not, but after reading my latest book about the CIA, I had to link this view. http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-boris-nemtsov-assassination-a-propaganda-attack-on-vladimir-putin/5434039%C2'> Edited February 28, 2015 by Topaz Quote
Topaz Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-boris-nemtsov-assassination-a-propaganda-attack-on-vladimir-putin/5434039 Quote
jacee Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) So some here support Putin? I don't think shady is saying he or anybody here supports Putin. Edited February 28, 2015 by jacee Quote
eyeball Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 Shady, are you under the mistaken impression that anyone here supports Putin?Like Dubya you mean?His appraisal of Putin probably forestalled a more appropriate response from the west by several years. Of course he was a dictator who was with us at the time so...that counts for a lot. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Shady Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Posted February 28, 2015 More answers as to why he was murdered... Nemtsov planned to reveal Russian links to Ukraine conflict. http://news.yahoo.com/nemtsov-planned-reveal-russian-links-ukraine-conflict-poroshenko-150410635.html Where's GH? He's big into these types of things. Oh wait, there isn't anyone in the West to blame. Nevermind. Quote
GostHacked Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 Where's GH? He's big into these types of things. Oh wait, there isn't anyone in the West to blame. Nevermind. Who do you think are supporting the other side of this conflict? Of course you have both the west and the east messing the Ukraine with both sides not giving a f'n damn about Ukraine itself. Quote
Rue Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 Hey Shady are you saying Putin kills his opponents? Come on that guy in Britain who died ate too many anchovies and that Ukrainian President just had bad acne. Shady he's misunderstood. He tries to help freedom fighters and what is the thanks he gets. I mean really. Ukrainians make good hockey players in Canada but come on who the hell do they think they are wanting a sovereign nation,Jews? Quote
Wilber Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 I'm trying to figure out why anyone would think that someone who wants to get rid of Putin would resort to bumping off his domestic opposition, ignoring the fact that if there is going to be regime change in Russia, it will have to come from Russians. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
overthere Posted February 28, 2015 Report Posted February 28, 2015 It's really rich that Vlad offered his condolences. Even better is that Putin has now offered to personally lead the investigation into the murder. This guy has balls of infinite size. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Topaz Posted March 1, 2015 Report Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Who knows what hr truth is over in the ME and in Ukraine and we know neither the West or the East can be trusted, so read the following and see if you can come to view on who to trust. http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-americas-lebensraum-is-washington-preparing-to-wage-war-on-russia/5431970%C2'> Edited March 1, 2015 by Topaz Quote
Topaz Posted March 1, 2015 Report Posted March 1, 2015 Sorry having trouble linking, maybe they don't want me to link??? http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-americas-lebensraum-is-washington-preparing-to-wage-war-on-russia/5431970 Quote
overthere Posted March 1, 2015 Report Posted March 1, 2015 I am certain that Putin already has a fall guy lined up and ready to be shot for killing Nemtsov. It was Putin who did it of course, but his investigation is(according to reports today) leading him to believe that Nemtsovs own allies wanted him out of the way. An internal power struggle. How convenient. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Big Guy Posted March 1, 2015 Report Posted March 1, 2015 It appears that many on this board do not understand the Russian people. I read here that Putin is a murderer, an impaler and some kind of monster. I was watching coverage of this latest "outrage" and it was mentioned by the Western media that Putin still has the support of over 80% of Russian people. Harper or Obama should be so popular. It appears they don't really care what we think. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Remiel Posted March 2, 2015 Report Posted March 2, 2015 Those photos of them washing down the crime scene within hours of the shooting... Nuts. Quote
LemonPureLeaf Posted March 2, 2015 Report Posted March 2, 2015 I like Putin. Too bad we dont have a strong leader like this in Canada. He is a great man who knows how to lead. I wish Pm Harper would take some lessons from him. Quote
Topaz Posted March 2, 2015 Report Posted March 2, 2015 If one does research on what started all this, you'll find the US/CIA right in the middle of it and Harper is going along with all this too. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted March 2, 2015 Report Posted March 2, 2015 It appears that many on this board do not understand the Russian people. I read here that Putin is a murderer, an impaler and some kind of monster. I was watching coverage of this latest "outrage" and it was mentioned by the Western media that Putin still has the support of over 80% of Russian people. Harper or Obama should be so popular. It appears they don't really care what we think. I think when Putin wants the opinion of the Russian people, he gives it to them. All 80% worth. The rest go to the Guiag. Quote
guyser Posted March 2, 2015 Report Posted March 2, 2015 I like Putin. Too bad we dont have a strong leader like this in Canada. He is a great man who knows how to lead. I wish Pm Harper would take some lessons from him.Sure why not? Harper could order the invasion of N Alberta and privatize the oil or somesuch. Then we could lower the price like in Venzuala. I really dont think too many would be upset by it, lower gas prices and all. Really glad to hear you sussing these brillaint ideas out. Wonderful job ! Quote
overthere Posted March 2, 2015 Report Posted March 2, 2015 If one does research on what started all this, you'll find the US/CIA right in the middle of it and Harper is going along with all this too. 22 posts before Harper gets blamed. That may be a record here. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
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