PIK Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 The TO star is slagging trudeau now.lol Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Keepitsimple Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 The TO star is slagging trudeau now.lol When even the Star is slagging him, you KNOW that Trudeau is in deep trouble. This one is particulary damaging because it goes beyond judgment - it goes to values. So much for Trudeau's "new brand of politics". I guess Did he get bad advice - or is this just another impulsive "Bozo Eruption"? Quote Back to Basics
PIK Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 She is a pretty girl and that young trudeau just can' t say no. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
overthere Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 The TO star is slagging trudeau now.lol So is Michael den Tandt of the National Post. He has been a relentless Trudeau cheerleader for at least 3 years, from well before he was leader. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
Queenmandy85 Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 If she fails to win the nomination, maybe it will all go away. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Boges Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 If she fails to win the nomination, maybe it will all go away. This is looking like the likely outcome. Which begs why JT even bothered with her. Quote
The_Squid Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 The TO star is slagging trudeau now.lol When even the Star is slagging him, you KNOW that Trudeau is in deep trouble. This one is particulary damaging because it goes beyond judgment - it goes to values. So much for Trudeau's "new brand of politics". I guess Did he get bad advice - or is this just another impulsive "Bozo Eruption"? So is Michael den Tandt of the National Post. He has been a relentless Trudeau cheerleader for at least 3 years, from well before he was leader. This entire mantra of the right-wingers is nonsense. "Liberal media" "TO Star isn't critical of Trudeau" It may be the case that society as a whole is a lot more liberal than the right wingers and the media simply reflects this general "bias". And those on the far right (fringe?) don't like it. Quote
overthere Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 This entire mantra of the right-wingers is nonsense. Except den Tandt is not a right winger unless your name is Marx. Karl Marx, not one of the brothers. He has been shredding Harper relentlessly for years and loves Trudeau deeply. Not so much any more. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
guyser Posted February 12, 2015 Report Posted February 12, 2015 This is looking like the likely outcome. Which begs why JT even bothered with her.Yup Best thing is, she loses and takes the lighter from the Conservatives hands before they light up the bomb Quote
ironstone Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 I believe Michael den Tandt is the one that wrote,"Trudeau does not simply shake your hand,he inhabits it" or something close to that. I didn't know too much about Eve Adams except the articles about her meltdown at the car wash and something about her huge expenses for make-up.The make-up thing got a lot of attention from the Ottawa Citizen's robocall twins,Glen McGregor and Stephen Maher.They likely won't bring it up again now that she's a Liberal.I do think she is a good fit for the Trudeau Liberals since she seems quite shallow,and like the leader,she expects to always get her own way. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Argus Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 This is looking like the likely outcome. Which begs why JT even bothered with her. Actually, it begs the question why did SHE bother? Her boyfriend is supposed to be a sharp operator. Why would she go through all the hassle of going over to the Liberals, then the cost and effort of trying to win a Liberal party nomination, which, with her record, in a riding not her own, and as a formerTory, would seem extremely unlikely on the surface? Unless, of course, she's either been promised the party will ensure she gets nominated, or promised something else if the Liberals get elected, some sort of patronage appointment... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
PIK Posted February 13, 2015 Report Posted February 13, 2015 aug 17 2012 is when he gave that speech about how great he is, someone should put it up, it is funny. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Keepitsimple Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) As they say - be careful what you wish for.......the race is now on and some Liberals are not happy.....from yesterday's G & M. Some federal Toronto Liberals, who raised money for Mr. Trudeau and his team and worked to help him win a couple of key by-elections, are dismayed they weren’t consulted about the decision to bring Ms. Adams into the Eglinton-Lawrence riding. They question why Mr. Trudeau would bill her defection as such a triumph after the Conservatives told her she couldn’t run for them after alleged misconduct in a nomination race last year.One senior Liberal organizer, who has been active on the federal front and asked that his name not be used, describes the decision to embrace Ms. Adams as “stupidity,” especially given that Mr. Trudeau “ran around” saying nominations were open and he would not appoint people.He says he may sit this election out – and some provincial Liberals feel the same way. Link: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/liberals-latest-angst-its-all-about-eve-adams/article23887309/ Edited April 12, 2015 by Keepitsimple Quote Back to Basics
Moonbox Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 I think it's an exaggeration to call it a nightmare... Certainly Eve Adams is a joke and it's an even bigger joke that the Trudeau is even looking at her, but nightmare? Nah. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Keepitsimple Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 I think it's an exaggeration to call it a nightmare... Certainly Eve Adams is a joke and it's an even bigger joke that the Trudeau is even looking at her, but nightmare? Nah. Perhaps. We'll see. First, a Liberal MP accuses Trudeau of having a "Bozo Eruption". Now, a senior Liberal accuses him of stupidity. Certainly a bad dream. Quote Back to Basics
jacee Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 "... Mr. Trudeau ran around saying nominations were open and he would not appoint people." From the article it appears that nominations are open. Trudeau hasn't 'appointed' her as the candidate. She has to win the nomination battle. Not sure what the kafuffle is about. . Quote
Big Guy Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Posted April 12, 2015 It appears to me that the deal was based on the liability of Adams versus the assets of Dimitri. Trudeau apparently felt that Dimitri was more important than the flack he would get on Eve. Only time will tell. The campaign is just beginning. Besides Nigel, there was someone else who knew what was going on in the inner Harper circle - Dimitri Soudas. He was the Executive Director of the Conservative Party and a Harper acolyte. If Dimitri really has turned, he could take Harper down by himself. The question is; what is it that Dimitri knows and when(if) he decides to share it with the public. It is a long time between now and voting day. Strategic releases of Dimitri's information during the campaign may be not only informative for the public but devastating for the Conservatives. I am waiting in anticipation. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Derek 2.0 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 The question is; what is it that Dimitri knows and when(if) he decides to share it with the public. An even better question; is Dimitri still working for the Tories..........you know what they say about Greeks bearing gifts.. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 It appears to me that the deal was based on the liability of Adams versus the assets of Dimitri. Trudeau apparently felt that Dimitri was more important than the flack he would get on Eve. Only time will tell. The campaign is just beginning. Besides Nigel, there was someone else who knew what was going on in the inner Harper circle - Dimitri Soudas. He was the Executive Director of the Conservative Party and a Harper acolyte. If Dimitri really has turned, he could take Harper down by himself. The question is; what is it that Dimitri knows and when(if) he decides to share it with the public. It is a long time between now and voting day. Strategic releases of Dimitri's information during the campaign may be not only informative for the public but devastating for the Conservatives. I am waiting in anticipation. Devastating might be a little too strong a characterization of what Soudas brings with him, I suppose that could depend on what he knows about the Duffy scandal, I imagine what Wright says on the stand is more likely to be devastatig. But his knowledge could certainly be helpful as in his position he would know a lot about election strategies as well as what bits of colorful dirt the tories have dug up on this or that MP. On the flip side Im sure Harper hopes Adams gets the nomination as she is less likely to threaten Joe Olivers seat in that riding. Quote
ToadBrother Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 Devastating might be a little too strong a characterization of what Soudas brings with him, I suppose that could depend on what he knows about the Duffy scandal, I imagine what Wright says on the stand is more likely to be devastatig. But his knowledge could certainly be helpful as in his position he would know a lot about election strategies as well as what bits of colorful dirt the tories have dug up on this or that MP. On the flip side Im sure Harper hopes Adams gets the nomination as she is less likely to threaten Joe Olivers seat in that riding. I think it's pretty clear Adams was the price to pay for Soudas. His knowledge isn't up to date, but this was a man who was one of Stephen Harper's closest confidantes, who also spent some time near the top of the Conservative Party food chain. Benedict Arnold may have been scum, but he was useful scum. Soudas's ultimate fate will be little different, and I don't expect much from Adams either. Quote
overthere Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 If Soudas has something to say that matters about Duffy, he can say it on the witness stand. When is he is scheduled to testify? Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
On Guard for Thee Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 If Soudas has something to say that matters about Duffy, he can say it on the witness stand. When is he is scheduled to testify? Hes not. Quote
Big Guy Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Posted April 13, 2015 In Duffy's diary, he refers to a fairly recent incident where Peter MacKay was laughed at when he was airlifted from a fishing trip by the Canadian Coast Guard. It made news and really did not make sense at the time. Duffy stated that Dimitri Soudas ordered Peter to take that helicopter and then set him up for the unfavorable publicity that followed. It is common knowledge that Harper and MacKay do not like each other and represent the two extreme sides of the Conservative Party. After Duffy's revelations in his diary there was no rebuttal from either Harper or MacKay or anybody else. It must have been the truth. If that is the case then what other little tidbits does Dimitri have to share about the PMO? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
ToadBrother Posted April 15, 2015 Report Posted April 15, 2015 In Duffy's diary, he refers to a fairly recent incident where Peter MacKay was laughed at when he was airlifted from a fishing trip by the Canadian Coast Guard. It made news and really did not make sense at the time. Duffy stated that Dimitri Soudas ordered Peter to take that helicopter and then set him up for the unfavorable publicity that followed. It is common knowledge that Harper and MacKay do not like each other and represent the two extreme sides of the Conservative Party. After Duffy's revelations in his diary there was no rebuttal from either Harper or MacKay or anybody else. It must have been the truth. If that is the case then what other little tidbits does Dimitri have to share about the PMO? That is an interesting tidbit, and does indicate that Stephen Harper's PMO is among the most Machiavellian in Canadian history. I guess the only thing that ticks me off is that the PMO is paid for by the taxpayer. Quite frankly, if this the new standard for how PMO's work, then I think the governing party should foot the bill. Quote
Derek 2.0 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Posted July 27, 2015 Robert Fife of CTV commented that he thought it was the price Trudeau had to pay to get Dimitri Soudas (Eve's live in partner) into the Liberal fold. Dimitri had been in the Harper inner circle from the start and knows where all the bodies are buried. If that is the case, there should be some very interesting information coming out during the election. And with a demonstration of simple democracy, Trudeau's overture to team Soudas has been rejected by the local, Liberal riding membership: Adams was soundly defeated Sunday in the Liberal nomination battle in the Toronto riding of Eglinton–Lawrence, falling to lawyer and riding association executive Marco Mendicino, the only other candidate in a hotly contested race. This is not only a rejection of Adams, but the first cracks in the Trudeau brand......... Quote
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