Our Disloyal President

[Black Dog]

Really ?

Coolidge used his middle name (Calvin).

Cleveland used his middle name (Grover...like on Sesame Street)

Thanks for playing !

So not every president used their full given given names. Some dropped their actual first name, some used middle initials and some used first and last name. Obama doesn't use his. Thanks for playing indeed.

[Black Dog]

Speaking of stereotypes, Shady is that annoying guy on Facebook who never got over reading the Fountainhead, jbg is the uncle who gets more and more right wing as he drinks at Thanksgiving and Rue, well, Rue is the guy on the corner in the stained sweatpants and the handmade signs warning of the impending jihad.

[bush_cheney2004]

So not every president used their full given given names. Some dropped their actual first name, some used middle initials and some used first and last name. Obama doesn't use his. Thanks for playing indeed.

..and some didn't even use their given names at all....Gerald R. Ford was named Leslie Lynch King, Jr. at birth. Some used various combinations at various times, before, during, and after occupying office(s). President Barack Hussein Obama II uses his full name depending on the circumstances, like....say....being sworn in as President of the United States.

This is exciting...so many experts on U.S. president's names...north of the border !

Edited September 10, 2014 by bush_cheney2004

[Shady]

For some, not all.

Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Hoover, Coolidge, Teddy Roosevelt, McKinley, Harrison, Cleveland, Johnson, Lincoln, Jackson, Madison, Adams, Washington. None of these guys used their middle names or initials.

Oh yes: and Obama.

Such a silly-billy you are!

Completely untrue. Ronald Wilson Reagan. Richard Milhouse Nixon, etc. You may just be unaware. Your ignorance doesn't equal political reality.

[waldo]

take it from a U.S. Presidential wannabe, John McCain:

"Obama’s middle name was largely taboo during the campaign, and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) apologized when it was used by Bill Cunningham, a talk-radio host who was introducing McCain at a rally in Cincinnati.

The Associated Press reported at the time, “Asked whether the use of Obama's middle name — the same as former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein — is proper, McCain said: ‘No, it is not. Any comment that is disparaging of either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama is totally inappropriate."

[cybercoma]

Ah I see, so it's the intellectual process of making fun of somebody's accent. Would you do that if he was a minority?

I didn't know Texans were the majority.

[Shady]

I didn't know Texans were the majority.

Stop being obtuse.

[cybercoma]

Stop being obtuse.

It's funny that you post the exact same things you report others for, Professor.

[jbg]

What smug, disingenuous piffle.

Does Obama use his middle name? Nope. So if he doesn't, the White house doesn't, the media doesn't, why would you?

he was sworn in that way. That speaks volumes.

[BubberMiley]

he was sworn in that way. That speaks volumes.

Don't be coy, what do you mean by volumes?

[On Guard for Thee]

Maybe he and Donald Trump have actually seen Obama's birth certificate. Or could it just be that when you take on a job, especially as a POTUS you need to give your full name?

[jbg]

Don't be coy, what do you mean by volumes?

It was a statement on his identity.

[BubberMiley]

It was a statement on his identity.

You're hilarious. I'll give you that.

[Argus]

Awesome, start a new thread then. But when Obama triples the number of troops in Afghanistan, and then you charge Bush for the expense, it's intellectually dishonest. Which is usual from your ilk.

The reason the extra troops were needed was that Bush took his eye off the ball. He arranged to boot out the Taliban, then got bored and wandered off to play in another sandbox. Another 'mission accomplished' moment, far, far too early.

[Argus]

Dealing with Iraq is also Clinton's mess. He signed the Iraq Liberation Act and then followed up 4 years of Iraq breaking UN resolutions and cease fires by bombing an asprine factory. He left that up to Bush to deal with as well. Too busy diddling interns I guess.

This is actually a ludicrous interpretation of things, you know.

[kimmy]

Well now Kimmy you clearly have zero problem stereotyping people.Lol in one breath you criticize people for stereotyping, then in the next breath stereotype. Love that consistency,

If you put "truck nuts" on your trailer hitch, people are going to assume you're a dumb-ass with a room-temperature IQ and a juvenile sense of humor.

You might have a completely different reason for putting "truck nuts" on your truck. Maybe you're doing it to raise awareness of testicular cancer. But people won't know that. They'll just assume you're an asshole, like every other guy who has "truck nuts" on his truck.

And by referring to Obama as "Barry Hussein", you're basically putting truck-nuts on your post. It basically sabotages the point you're trying to argue. It predisposes your audience to assume that you've swallowed the Tea Party kool-aid, that you're probably a "birther" or some other form of idiot. If you want your post to be taken seriously, why start off by biasing your audience against you before you've even started?

Everybody knows the president's middle name, but not everybody knows you. If you're going to start off with Barry Hussein, you're inviting people to make negative assumptions about you. Aren't you a lawyer? I thought you guys were supposed to understand that sort of thing.

Go ahead if you wish. I just don't get why supposedly intelligent individuals would want to sabotage their arguments by putting truck-nuts on them.

-k

[cybercoma]

It was a statement on his identity.

It was a statement on his identity that speaks volumes. What volumes? What statement?

[cybercoma]

This is actually a ludicrous interpretation of things, you know.

It's amazing how some people's views have absolutely no grounding in reality and they will fight tooth and nail to prove the sky is green and the grass is blue.

[On Guard for Thee]

Much more effectively achieved with the Northern Lights and Southern Country Music.

[sharkman]

Well now Kimmy you clearly have zero problem stereotyping people.Lol in one breath you criticize people for stereotyping, then in the next breath stereotype. Love that consistency,

Here is the point Shady was making to all you politically correct people afraid of the name Hussein. Barry Hussein Obama stopped using the name only when he was elected President.

Before that he used it.,

His half brother is a top financier for the Muslim Brotherhood and his step father was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

What we should ignore that?

You want to also suggest he is not sympathetic to the Muslim Brotherhood? He came right out and formed a coalition with erdogan and Morsi openly praising the Muslim Brotherhood. He has eight advisors all pro Muslim Brotherhood.

He financed the training of ISIS in Turkey. He bloody well financed and supported Al Quaeda's removal of Ghaddafi and remained silent letting his own ambassador be sodomized to death rather than get into a fight with his Al Quaeda allies.

Barry Hussein Obama came to office claiming he would win over the Muslim world through his understanding of and close connection to the Muslim Brotherhood and clearly at one point the CIA bought into that b.s.

Now as usual its come back to bite the US in its buttox and ISIS has turned rogue no different than the Taliban (formerly known as the Mujahadeen when the US financed their war against the Soviets), that other Hussein in Iraq, Noriega, Ghaddafi, Nasser.

Barry Hussein Obama is petrified to use his middle name and to get elected he had to assure everyone he was Christian.

That is the point. You want to pretend he's not sympathetic to Muslims and is a good Christian knock yourself out.

By the way, Its William Jefferson Clinton Jr.

its also customary that all US Presidents be referred to formally using all their given names such s Ronald Wilson Reagan or Richard Milhous Nixon, Gerald Robert Ford or James Earl Carter Jr. None of them used their middle names but sure as hell never hid them from use.

The US

I don't know what Obama is, but he damn sure isn't a good leader when the US dearly needs one. And clearly defining that there won't be boots on the ground when he finally declared that Isis was a threat, telegraphing to your enemies what you will and will not do is one thing, but plainly stating it is plain stupidity. Something he keeps doing.

[jbg]

It was a statement on his identity that speaks volumes. What volumes? What statement?

By having himself sworn in as President (similar to the privy oath that Cabinet members receive) as "Barack Hussein Obama" he was affirming his identity, at best, as a "citizen of the world" and at worst as a Muslim with an Indonesian upbringing. The citizens of the U.S. intended to elect someone who would put America, not the world, first.

[Smallc]

It's quite clear that you don't understand him...or how to properly use his name. His name is as he was sworn in. Your attempt to make a mockery of his middle name by downplaying his fist name says far more about you than him.

[On Guard for Thee]

It's quite clear if thsi dolt is a lawyer, you would never want to hire him.

[Black Dog]

By having himself sworn in as President (similar to the privy oath that Cabinet members receive) as "Barack Hussein Obama" he was affirming his identity, at best, as a "citizen of the world" and at worst as a Muslim with an Indonesian upbringing.

So when every other President did it, it's standard practice, but when Obama did it it's a coded message. OK then.

[BubberMiley]

I have a cousin who is also a Tea Party nut who always sends me ridiculous emails about how Obama is a secret muslim. In her case, I think her paranoia is an early symptom of dementia.