waldo Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 LOL @ 6 trillion. I love it when people just start making up numbers! yes! You luv it long time... to the point of expressing your own variants of same. Of course, there are several analysis out there that have costed both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars... cost to the U.S.; the majority of which has yet to be paid for. This one from Haawwvard rings in at between $4 Trillion and $6 Trillion: not even paid for Shady... and you're out there trumping up more, more... wars! uhhh... that GuyserGuy just stole my thunder! Quote
Shady Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 I love it when silly people laugh and make up things about others making up things. Go tell Harvard University they make things up. <------Now thats funny. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9961877/Cost-to-US-of-Iraq-and-Afghan-wars-could-hit-6-trillion.html Firstly, your link says COULD cost. Secondly, why are you charging Bush's credit card for Obama's massive troops increase in Afghanistan? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 LOL @ 6 trillion. I love it when people just start making up numbers! My bad for not posting the link, but I see that has been taken care of. How do you suppose anyone could just make up a number like that? Not all that funny is it. Quote
Shady Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Was the PATRIOT act part of the undermining process from a previous POTUS? The patriot acts was written and passed with congresses approval. Not unilaterally. Quote
Shady Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 My bad for not posting the link, but I see that has been taken care of. How do you suppose anyone could just make up a number like that? Not all that funny is it. Yes, I've already addressed your bogus 6 trillion. Counting spending that Obama authorized for his troop increases in Afghanistan. Nice. Obama escalates the Afghanistan war in 2009, and yet that spending for four years gets given to Bush? You guys are pathetic. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Firstly, your link says COULD cost. Secondly, why are you charging Bush's credit card for Obama's massive troops increase in Afghanistan? Probably because Bush started the "surge" and Obama increased it as things further fell apart. And keep in mind who it was who did the "drawdown" Quote
Shady Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Probably because Bush started the "surge" and Obama increased it as things further fell apart. And keep in mind who it was who did the "drawdown" Bush started no surge in Afghanistan. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Bush started no surge in Afghanistan. If you want something to really LOL about, go back to when Bush announced, with guidance from Wolfowitz, that the Iraq war would self finance due to Iraqi oil. Now that's hilarious. Of course it gets better, as in what do you do with a guy who screws up numbers that badly, why you let him run the World Bank of course. A laugh a minute from that crew. Quote
Shady Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 If you want something to really LOL about, go back to when Bush announced, with guidance from Wolfowitz, that the Iraq war would self finance due to Iraqi oil. Now that's hilarious. Of course it gets better, as in what do you do with a guy who screws up numbers that badly, why you let him run the World Bank of course. A laugh a minute from that crew. Awesome, start a new thread then. But when Obama triples the number of troops in Afghanistan, and then you charge Bush for the expense, it's intellectually dishonest. Which is usual from your ilk. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Awesome, start a new thread then. But when Obama triples the number of troops in Afghanistan, and then you charge Bush for the expense, it's intellectually dishonest. Which is usual from your ilk. Somebody had to clean up Bush's messes. You may recall the discussion about Obama inheriting the "agenda from hell" Quote
Shady Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Somebody had to clean up Bush's messes. You may recall the discussion about Obama inheriting the "agenda from hell" You mean Clinton's mess. Bin Laden could have been dealt with before 2001. But he was left to house up in Afghanistan to plot attacks. Quote
Shady Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Dealing with Iraq is also Clinton's mess. He signed the Iraq Liberation Act and then followed up 4 years of Iraq breaking UN resolutions and cease fires by bombing an asprine factory. He left that up to Bush to deal with as well. Too busy diddling interns I guess. Quote
waldo Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Bin Laden could have been dealt with before 2001. But he was left to house up in Afghanistan to plot attacks. did not know that Bush was 'dealing with' Bin Laden in Iraq... you sure? Quote
waldo Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Dealing with Iraq is also Clinton's mess. He signed the Iraq Liberation Act and then followed up 4 years of Iraq breaking UN resolutions and cease fires by bombing an asprine factory. He left that up to Bush to deal with as well. Too busy diddling interns I guess. what about Bush going into Iraq cause someone tried to kill his pa! Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Dealing with Iraq is also Clinton's mess. He signed the Iraq Liberation Act and then followed up 4 years of Iraq breaking UN resolutions and cease fires by bombing an asprine factory. He left that up to Bush to deal with as well. Too busy diddling interns I guess. The aspirin factory was in Sudan. I have an aspirin bottle I "stole" from there. I guess I'm thankful Obama got Osama as he might be after me for that bottle. Quote
dre Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 No, it's a fact. The fact that you don't know this is disturbing but not surprising. Your ignorance is astonishing. Most of the constitution also applies to non-citizens as well as citizens. The bill of rights applies to illegal immigrants and tourists for example, and the rights in the fifth and sixth amendments provide rights to ANYONE subject to the US legal system (right to speedy trial, right to due process, etc). There ARE a few rights reserved for citizens (voting, running for office etc) but your statement is still totally naive and wrong. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Shady Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 The aspirin factory was in Sudan. I have an aspirin bottle I "stole" from there. I guess I'm thankful Obama got Osama as he might be after me for that bottle. Oh yeah, Clinton bombed the baby food place in Iraq. Quote
Remiel Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 More and more I am starting to think the Rue we knew of old has had his account hijacked. If you cannot make your points without using the man's middle name as an insult then I suggest you take your own advice and grow a spine. Quote
Black Dog Posted September 9, 2014 Report Posted September 9, 2014 Oh yeah, Clinton bombed the baby food place in Iraq. And Bush killed piles and piles of actual babies. So has Obama. It's pretty funny to watch your Obama Derangement Syndrome flare up like this given that he's virtually indistinguishable from any alternative from the other side. The last word on the U.S. political system was already written by the Simpsons decades ago: Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Dealing with Iraq is also Clinton's mess. He signed the Iraq Liberation Act and then followed up 4 years of Iraq breaking UN resolutions and cease fires by bombing an asprine factory. He left that up to Bush to deal with as well. Too busy diddling interns I guess. Yep...the U.S. and U.K. were engaged in Iraq with military force for twelve years...long before Bush came along. It was U.S. Public Law to achieve regime change in Iraq as of 1998. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Shady, on 09 Sept 2014 - 1:50 PM, said:Oh yeah, Clinton bombed the baby food place in Iraq. No, he bombed terrorist camps in Iraq. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 Hell...even Canada bombed Iraq. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 bush_cheney2004, on 09 Sept 2014 - 6:51 PM, said:Hell...even Canada bombed Iraq. Ah maybe you didn't hear about it. Chretien said non. Quote
jbg Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Posted September 10, 2014 It's unfortunate that so many Republicans will go so far in trying to sow division in the country that they would resort to trying to cast the president as an alien "other" who is betraying the country. It was bad under Bush but it's truly reached insane proportions. It's a little bit ironic that calling one's president disloyal for political purposes actually demonstrates true disloyalty to the good of the country.For the umpteenth time, I am not a Republican. I voted for Zephyr Teachout in this morning's New York gubernatorial primary (roughly the equivalent of your EDA meetings), against incumbent Andrew Cuomo. Cuomo is a right-wing Democrat in Name Only (DINO). Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Posted September 10, 2014 More and more I am starting to think the Rue we knew of old has had his account hijacked. If you cannot make your points without using the man's middle name as an insult then I suggest you take your own advice and grow a spine. Popular use of Presidential middle names is common.Consider: Franklin Delano Roosevelt; Dwight David Eisenhower; John Fitzgerald Kennedy; Lyndon Baines Johnson; and William Jefferson Clinton Only Nixon's (Milhous) and Obama's (Hussein) have been attacked by some as disparaging. I don't know why Obama's should be considered disparaging. It's his name and reflects his heritage. He should wear it with pride. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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