Our Disloyal President

[BubberMiley]

And why do you need to introduce a racial element where there is none?

Because there is one.

[GostHacked]

Because there is one.

Then there has always been one. For every president.

[On Guard for Thee]

That's right. All the black ones anyway.

[Smallc]

It's about as disrespectful as it gets.

Oh ROTFLMFAO

[Smallc]

And what would you call Harper's latest failing to show up at teh UN if not disrespectful, but only in a blatantly obvious way?

I'd call it a better use of his time.

[On Guard for Thee]

Well at least noone was forced to sit through one of his "I've been very clear" blathers. He may be practicing up his lines for the Duffy trial.

[Smallc]

His time is better spent. It's that simple.

[On Guard for Thee]

I fail to see how. His flimsy little speech at the UN I just heard doesn't seem to be any more enlightening than his usual. Look at the boost Obama has out of his efforts.

[Shady]

I can't believe that some of you are defending Obama. Although I'm not all that surprised. Usually the gang gets together when there's been an affront directed toward your mutually admired leader. But really, just admit that it was an embarassing gaffe, and move on.

[Smallc]

There was nothing embarrassing about it. He's their boss. They have to be respectful to him more than he does to them.

Edited September 25, 2014 by Smallc

[cybercoma]

Actually, he's a civilian and isn't required to salute at all. In fact, General Eisenhower didn't even salute them.

Edited September 25, 2014 by cybercoma

[cybercoma]

I guess Eisenhower was unAmerican and hated the military or something.

[Big Guy]

Well at least no one was forced to sit through one of his "I've been very clear" blathers. He may be practicing up his lines for the Duffy trial.

To-day Harper came to the UN and walked to the podium to begin his speech. Just as he was walking to the podium, president Obama stood up and left the room. Apparently that was an unprecedented move (according to the commentators) that surprised most of the delegates.

[On Guard for Thee]

I didn't see that part but that's interesting.

[Big Guy]

I didn't see that part but that's interesting.

It was part of Don Martins CTV Power Play on Wednesday. I assumed there would be a clip somewhere but I am unable to locate it. Quite possibly it was a "health stop" for Obama but the commentators suggested that things are so well orchestrated that it was not a mistake. There was also reference to the fact that Obama sent a "letter" to Harper requesting additional assistance rather than a phone call - which is more common with "friends".

[Black Dog]

I can't believe that some of you are defending Obama.

I can't believe you're still pretending to actually care about this stuff.

[cybercoma]

I don't feel like going back and reading through this crap. Did Shady ever reconcile Bush saluting with a dog in his arms with his stance on Obama's salute?

[Black Dog]

I don't feel like going back and reading through this crap. Did Shady ever reconcile Bush saluting with a dog in his arms with his stance on Obama's salute?

What do you think?

[Argus]

I guess Eisenhower was unAmerican and hated the military or something.

The US navy doesn't salute without a hat. Not sure about the army. Obama is a civilian and civilians do not salute, nor are they taught the "customs of the service".

Ronald Reagan is apparently credited with the thought Presidents ought to return a hand salute.

"I was told presidents weren't supposed to return salutes, so I didn't, but this made me feel a little uncomfortable. Normally, a person offering a salute waits until it is returned, then brings down his hand. Sometimes, I realized, the soldier, sailor, Marine, or airman giving me a salute wasn't sure when he was supposed to lower his hand. Initially, I nodded and smiled and said hello and thought maybe that would bring down the hand, but usually it didn't. Finally, one night when Nancy and I were attending a concert at the Marine Corps Headquarters, I told the Commandant of Marines, "I know it's customary for the President to receive these salutes, but I was once an officer and realize that you're not supposed to salute when you're in civilian clothes. I think there ought to be a regulation that the president could return a salute inasmuch as he is commander in chief and civilian clothes are his uniform." "Well, if you did return a salute," the general said, "I don't think anyone would say anything to you about it."

"The next time I got a salute, I saluted back. A big grin came over the Marine's face and down came his hand. From then on, I always returned salutes. When George Bush followed me into the White House, I encouraged him to keep up the tradition."

http://www.texasgopvote.com/military-salute/it-proper-president-render-military-hand-salute-002816

Edited September 25, 2014 by Argus

[cybercoma]

Not only the hat thing, but you're not supposed to salute if you're not in uniform anyway, even if you are in the military (which Obama is not).

Edit: I didn't read Reagan's quote. I see he mentioned it.

Edited September 25, 2014 by cybercoma

[GostHacked]

I can't believe that some of you are defending Obama. Although I'm not all that surprised. Usually the gang gets together when there's been an affront directed toward your mutually admired leader. But really, just admit that it was an embarassing gaffe, and move on.

I can't believe some still defend Bush. Nuff said.