Why Islam is dangerous

Argus · September 14, 2016

An article by a Pakistani Muslim who immigrated to Canada details the rise of Muslim extremism in Canada, centered on Muslim schools, mosques, and university Muslim associations.

Upon investigation, we discovered that some mosques were giving sermons against loyalty to Canada and at other places; the sermons were different in English and Arabic, the English version being toned down. Added to this disagreeable situation was the fact that many immigrants were enforcing cultural values and ideas that were at odds with Canada’s established traditions of democracy, freedom, and equality. No government or other authority seemed to contest any of this, and so these messages and teachings began to spread in the communities that had been subject to such instruction.

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Later our kids went to college and we found much to our dismay that the Muslim Student Associations (MSAs) could be quite outspokenly anti-Semitic and extremist in their views. At York University, they often approached my son to convince him to be a better Muslim by joining in congregational prayers as an option over classes or be part of their (outreach programs). They left nasty notes on my niece’s door about how she would burn in hell if she did not wear the hijab. The hijab in fact started to become a political symbol and I saw a sudden rise of orthodox religiosity amongst young Muslims who were being sucked into the hardline Wahhabi/Salafist ideology.

http://mackenzieinstitute.com/rise-islamic-extremism-canada/

Goddess · September 14, 2016

I recently saw a video taken in an Islamic school in Toronto where the children enacted a beheading. :wacko:

Start 'em young.....

DogOnPorch · September 14, 2016

I recently saw a video taken in an Islamic school in Toronto where the children enacted a beheading.

Start 'em young.....

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL-E-Q2L9MM

Goddess · September 14, 2016

This one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL-E-Q2L9MM

Yes, that was the one.

?Impact · September 14, 2016

I recently saw a video taken in an Islamic school in Toronto where the children enacted a beheading.

Start 'em young.....

Yes, crucifixion at Easter is much more Christian of you.

Goddess · September 14, 2016

Yes, crucifixion at Easter is much more Christian of you.

I'm not sure honoring the death of someone whom many believe sacrificed himself for the benefit of all mankind is quite the same.....

Everything that critics say they don't like about Christianity, from slavery to women's issues, is not only a tangible part of Islam, but usually magnified.

GostHacked · September 14, 2016

Folks,

Avoid thread drift and avoid trolling.

What is considered trolling? And how do we stop it? You are not tired of this question after this many years?

?Impact · September 14, 2016

I'm not sure honoring the death of someone whom many believe sacrificed himself for the benefit of all mankind is quite the same.

The same as what? This is a reenactment of the slaughter of the Prophet Muhammad's family by the caliphate of the time. This play depicts the martyrdom of Muhammad’s grandson and brother. Could you please explain the difference?

Perhaps you would like to move to Australia, where it is the Christian children that are taught how to behead? http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/comment/the-horrifying-religious-instruction-classes-planned-for-qld-schools-20160420-gobbpk.html

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DogOnPorch · September 14, 2016

The same as what? This is a reenactment of the slaughter of the Prophet Muhammad's family by the caliphate of the time. This play depicts the martyrdom of Muhammad’s grandson and brother. Could you please explain the difference?

Muhammad's family wasn't slaughtered.

Edited September 14, 2016 by DogOnPorch

Goddess · September 14, 2016

Muhammad's family wasn't slaughtered.

Thank you. I was just checking to see if I had missed something major in History class.....

?Impact · September 14, 2016

Muhammad's family wasn't slaughtered.

I guess you never heard of Husayn ibn Ali and the battle of Karbala either.

DogOnPorch · September 14, 2016

People die in battles. Gays get slaughtered in discos.

?Impact · September 14, 2016

People die in battles. Gays get slaughtered in discos.

Yes, and Jesus was tried and executed like any other criminal for committing blasphemy and breaking the law of Moses.

DogOnPorch · September 14, 2016

Yes, and Jesus was tried and executed like any other criminal for committing blasphemy and breaking the law of Moses.

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You make about as much sense as Islam.

?Impact · September 14, 2016

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You make about as much sense as Islam.

I agree, religion makes no sense. I am however simply repeating what is in the Bible, the New Testament. I suggest you read Mark 14.

DogOnPorch · September 14, 2016

I agree, religion makes no sense. I am however simply repeating what is in the Bible, the New Testament. I suggest you read Mark 14.

I'm well aware of the Book of Mark...your claim is that Muhammad's family was slaughtered...ie murdered. There were a few assassinations...which is murder for political reasons...usually.

Battles are notorious for people attending then getting killed.

Big difference.

Either way, the mosque you defend gets the kids to act out beheadings and teaches them to hate the Jews.

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DogOnPorch · September 14, 2016

Here's a question: how many people did Muhammad murder?

This would certainly influence how dangerous Islam is. Muhammad WAS a murderer...a mass murderer.

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?Impact · September 14, 2016

Either way, the mosque you defend gets the kids to act out beheadings and teaches them to hate the vile Jews.

I don't defend any Mosque, Church, Temple, or otherwise. They are all medieval institutions. You allegation is that Mosque teaches beheading to children is the same as the fact that Churches teach children to crucify others. They are either both historic* re-enactments, or terrorist schools.

*historic - as in the story that religion teaches its followers. There is always bias in the telling.

Does your synagogue have a mechitzah?

DogOnPorch · September 14, 2016

I don't defend any Mosque, Church, Temple, or otherwise. They are all medieval institutions. You allegation is that Mosque teaches beheading to children is the same as the fact that Churches teach children to crucify others. They are either both historic* re-enactments, or terrorist schools.

*historic - as in the story that religion teaches its followers. There is always bias in the telling.

Does your synagogue have a mechitzah?

I'm not Jewish. What makes you think I'm a Jew?

Any idea how many people Muhammad murdered?

Edited September 14, 2016 by DogOnPorch

Argus · September 14, 2016

What is considered trolling? And how do we stop it? You are not tired of this question after this many years?

Continuing a discussion as to whether there is or is not a God given that is not the subject of this topic would, I believe, be considered trolling by the powers that be here.

Especially after they warn you to stop.

Edited September 14, 2016 by Argus

Charles Anthony · September 14, 2016

Thank you, Argus. You are right.

Your post gives me hope.

Folks,

A few posts were taken down because they were off-topic, thread jacking or otherwise nonsense.

Moonlight Graham · September 15, 2016

Continuing a discussion as to whether there is or is not a God given that is not the subject of this topic would, I believe, be considered trolling by the powers that be here.

Especially after they warn you to stop.

Wouldn't that be thread drift?

What is considered trolling? And how do we stop it? You are not tired of this question after this many years?

Trolling is defined in the rules aka MLW Constitution. There can be no other definition enforced here (unless the rules are changed), therefore posters who disagree with that def are out of luck just as any mod who wants to enforce their own definition of trolling should be out of luck. Rules are rules.

Charles Anthony · September 15, 2016

Wouldn't that be thread drift?

Irrelevent.

Posting thread drift is a form of trolling.

Smoke · September 15, 2016

I agree, religion makes no sense. I am however simply repeating what is in the Bible, the New Testament. I suggest you read Mark 14.

For someone who thinks religion makes no sense (as I do) you seem very familiar with the bible.

Edited September 15, 2016 by Smoke

DogOnPorch · September 15, 2016

For someone who thinks religion makes no sense (as I do) you seem very familiar with the bible.

That's really no indicator as I'm an atheist and have been exposed to all the major religions in College/University....back in the 80s when Islam was just a blip. Krishna...now there was a joker.

What I find interesting is that Muhammad was an actual murderer as opposed to just a guy who fought in battles. He is accused in 43 murders...unsolved...no doubt. Not to mention his habit of beheading rather than taking POWs during battle.

https://wikiislam.net/wiki/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Supported_by_Muhammad

Muhammad was a brutal man...had a thing for children...hated criticism, poetry, music and of course...Jews.

Jesus/Buddha/Krishna...have none of that baggage.