Khadr Wins Transfer

[Hydraboss]

Man this is like pulling teeth. If you plead guilty you are automatically convicted. Is that so difficult.

I understood it from the beginning. You were the one who kept changing their mind.

[On Guard for Thee]

I understood it from the beginning. You were the one who kept changing their mind.

Well apparently you didnt. But in any case, he gets, and by most accounts (other than the bigots), he deserves bail. Why not give him the same chance others get.

[eyeball]

Omar Khadr is a Canadian but more importantly he's a human being. He was radicalized starting at the age of eight and was a fully indoctrinated child soldier at the time he was captured.

That's when the worst, most shameful and just as illegal abuse that he's suffered started.

I hope he's compensated to the tune of several tens of millions, at least. There should also be some sort of Never Again monument erected on Parliament Hill.

[Hydraboss]

Well apparently you didnt. But in any case, he gets, and by most accounts (other than the bigots), he deserves bail. Why not give him the same chance others get.

I don't believe anyone convicted of murder should be allowed bail. So I am according him the same as "others get" if the choice were mine.

So I don't think there's any further reason for me to "prove he's a terrorist" since we both now agree the Canadian courts agree that he is guilty.

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Edited April 26, 2015 by Hydraboss

[Hydraboss]

I hope he's compensated to the tune of several tens of millions, at least. There should also be some sort of Never Again monument erected on Parliament Hill.

And I sincerely hope you are 100% wrong.

[On Guard for Thee]

I don't believe anyone convicted of murder should be allowed bail. So I am according him the same as "others get" if the choice were mine.

So I don't think there's any further reason for me to "prove he's a terrorist" since we both now agree the Canadian courts agree that he is guilty.

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He plead, that has legal weight. A lot. The circumstances under which that happened are suspect. He has paid a hefty price. I suppose you would probably like the death penalty reinstituted.

[Hydraboss]

Absolutely. With haste preferably.

[On Guard for Thee]

Absolutely. With haste preferably.

I thought so. Well it wont happen. Look how badly they have f,ed it up in the US.

[Hydraboss]

You didn't ask me if I thought it would happen, only if I would prefer it did. And I do. I also find it curious how several members here are so quick to point to the US for examples of what went wrong with things, but abhor referring to the same country when they do something better than Canada.

[On Guard for Thee]

You didn't ask me if I thought it would happen, only if I would prefer it did. And I do. I also find it curious how several members here are so quick to point to the US for examples of what went wrong with things, but abhor referring to the same country when they do something better than Canada.

And finding executing the wrong person is somehow better than not executing people to start with. Theres some good old down home logic...

[Hydraboss]

I believe we have quite a lengthy thread(s) already going on capital punishment if you want to continue this part of the debate. Your choice.

[On Guard for Thee]

I believe we have quite a lengthy thread(s) already going on capital punishment if you want to continue this part of the debate. Your choice.

I certainly dont need to debate the death penalty. Its wrong, full stop. And that why we got rid of it decades ago.

[eyeball]

And I sincerely hope you are 100% wrong.

He was 8 when adults started filling his head with poison. Recall what Harper proposes we do to those who radicalize people.

Omar Khadr was eight and you want to execute him for what was done to him.

[Smallc]

He was 8 when adults started filling his head with poison. Recall what Harper proposes we do to those who radicalize people.

Omar Khadr was eight and you want to execute him for what was done to him.

I wouldn't expect you'd make the same excuse for a non minority who disagreed with you.

[eyeball]

You'd be wrong, if there are any kids out there who need to be treated with utmost compassion it's probably kids born of right wingers.

[bush_cheney2004]

You'd be wrong, if there are any kids out there who need to be treated with utmost compassion it's probably kids born of right wingers.

Of course...the world should have treated Uday and Qusay Hussein with much more compassion !

Cry for the "right winger" children.....like poor Omar Khadr.

Edited April 26, 2015 by bush_cheney2004

[Smallc]

You'd be wrong, if there are any kids out there who need to be treated with utmost compassion it's probably kids born of right wingers.

It's funny. I have some of the most generous parents you'll ever meet. They made me realize that most people don't appreciate or deserve generosity.

[On Guard for Thee]

It's funny. I have some of the most generous parents you'll ever meet. They made me realize that most people don't appreciate or deserve generosity.

Dont think you got the point.

[Michael Hardner]

Then by all means report me to the RCMP. They can find me quite easily through the information MLW has on me. Go ahead. I'll wait here for them.

Ok, this dispute has come out of the ambiguity of the term "we" in reference to dealing with Khadr, whether it means the state or not.

It has been reported, so move past this thank you.

[drummindiver]

Really? When was Canada invaded?

[Argus]

We don't have "state-sponsored".

What you are saying could be considered promoting or inciting a murder by the police who lurk these boards.

Only if they had been drinking all night and weren't very smart to begin with.

[Argus]

As usual you are flailing. For every report you can find about his family, I will show you one that disputes it.

Cool. Show me one which disputes that his family are terrorists and terrorist supporters.

In any case, he has spent 13 years in a whacky, illegal US prison and been tortured.

Boo hoo. And 15 years abroad, mostly in Pakistan and AFghanistan, learning to be a fanatic, and how to use guns and explosives.

He is about due for parole even if he had have been properly convicted. An interview I heard just today with a teacher

from Canada who spent time with him in Gitmo claims he was a model student.

Parole is not mandatory, and what does 'model student' even mean? Does it in ANY way imply he's not a religious extremist any more? Nope.

Basically you buy the BS and because hes brown boy you are happy to keep eating it.

No, basically because h's a 'brown boy' you think he's on some lower level, maybe above animals, but certainly well below that of white people, and so can't be held accountable or responsible for his beliefs and actions the way you would a White person. That's your liberal bigotry at play.

It's an undeniable fact his family are the religious fanatics and terrorists. They were Egyptians and Palestinians who came to Canada, stayed only a few years, just enough to get citizenship, then moved out of Canada before he was born. They only came back to Canada from time to time for free health care and welfare. His mother has been quoted as saying she kept her children out of Canada as much as possible so they wouldn't be infected by our social values. His father moved them to Bahrain but was upset to find western culture present so moved them to Pakistan instead. Both he and an older brother were shot by authorities when they raided an Al Quaeda safe house. Another brother was wanted by the US, and a third brother kept himself off the US lists by cooperating with the CIA. Then we have Omar, involved in a firefight in Afghanistan.

But none of that matters to you because they're 'brown'.

[Smallc]

Dont think you got the point.

You obviously think he's right in what he's trying to say. I ignored it as the meaningless insult it was.

Edited April 26, 2015 by Smallc

[Argus]

Omar Khadr is a Canadian but more importantly he's a human being.

Both of those are mere technicalities.

He was radicalized starting at the age of eight and was a fully indoctrinated child soldier at the time he was captured.

He was radicalized as soon as he could speak because some moron at Immigration allowed his religious extremist parents to come to Canada and become citizens.

I hope he's compensated to the tune of several tens of millions, at least. There should also be some sort of Never Again monument erected on Parliament Hill.

Which he would almost certainly donate to various terrorist causes in hopes of killing as many Westerners and Jews as he could.

[Argus]

He was 8 when adults started filling his head with poison.

You could pretty much say the same thing about every terrorist on the planet. And my response is: so?

I understand almost every child molester was himself molested when very young. Do we just let them go, then?

Whatever caused a man to become violent, crazy or perverted, what we're left dealing with is the man as he is.