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You could pretty much say the same thing about every terrorist on the planet. And my response is: so?

I understand almost every child molester was himself molested when very young. Do we just let them go, then?

Whatever caused a man to become violent, crazy or perverted, what we're left dealing with is the man as he is.

Omar Khadr didn't kill Speers.

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Cool. Show me one which disputes that his family are terrorists and terrorist supporters.

Boo hoo. And 15 years abroad, mostly in Pakistan and AFghanistan, learning to be a fanatic, and how to use guns and explosives.

Parole is not mandatory, and what does 'model student' even mean? Does it in ANY way imply he's not a religious extremist any more? Nope.

No, basically because h's a 'brown boy' you think he's on some lower level, maybe above animals, but certainly well below that of white people, and so can't be held accountable or responsible for his beliefs and actions the way you would a White person. That's your liberal bigotry at play.

It's an undeniable fact his family are the religious fanatics and terrorists. They were Egyptians and Palestinians who came to Canada, stayed only a few years, just enough to get citizenship, then moved out of Canada before he was born. They only came back to Canada from time to time for free health care and welfare. His mother has been quoted as saying she kept her children out of Canada as much as possible so they wouldn't be infected by our social values. His father moved them to Bahrain but was upset to find western culture present so moved them to Pakistan instead. Both he and an older brother were shot by authorities when they raided an Al Quaeda safe house. Another brother was wanted by the US, and a third brother kept himself off the US lists by cooperating with the CIA. Then we have Omar, involved in a firefight in Afghanistan.

But none of that matters to you because they're 'brown'.

The courts, if they are working properly, dont see color as an issue, just the facts and how they apply to the laws. Hence, bail for Khadr.

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Omar Khadr didn't kill Speers.

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The Canadian courts disagree with you 100%.

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"It also stands to reason that anyone who sympathizes with the enemy or gives aid or comfort to said enemy is likewise guilty. I have sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and especially domestic and I will. And I will because not only did I swear to, but believe in what it stands for in every bit of my heart, soul and being. I know in my heart that I am right in my struggle. I have come to peace with myself, my God and my cause. Blood will flow in the streets. Good vs. Evil. Free Man vs. Socialist Wannabe Slaves. Pray it is not your blood, my friend."

This nationalist participated in the Persian Gulf War and Operation Dessert Storm. He was awarded the Bronze Star, National Defence Service Medal, Southwest Asia Service Medal, Army Service Ribbon and Kuwaiti Liberation Medal.

Racists, bigots and xenophobes tend to hide behind a cloak of nationalism, create an imaginary domestic enemy and rationalize their unhealthy views.

Oh by the way, the author of that quote?

Timothy McVeigh

Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.

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So he's been granted an acquittal and released as a free man? Please supply a cite because I must have missed that. He is now under Canadian legal control and yet his guilt has obviously been upheld or he would have been released.

Doesn't matter what the SCC believes about Gitmo; Khadr is still a prisoner in the Canadian legal system. People found innocent are not sent to prison.

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So he's been granted an acquittal and released as a free man? Please supply a cite because I must have missed that. He is now under Canadian legal control and yet his guilt has obviously been upheld or he would have been released.

Doesn't matter what the SCC believes about Gitmo; Khadr is still a prisoner in the Canadian legal system. People found innocent are not sent to prison.

Dont know where your acquittal idea comes from. But anyway, he has been granted bail until his appeal can be heard, based on the courts finding that he has a strong case for appeal, and on his history as a model prisoner.

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On Guard the personal comments are as always funny. If I may respond to your comments using Freudian analysis, you really need not feel so threatened by my prowess, just stand one urinal further down.

Now getting back to the thread and Hydra.

Hydra every summer without fail some idiot drives through African Park Safari and opens their window to try pet a lion.

Never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are.

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I come to you to hell.

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Now getting back to the thread and Hydra.

Hydra every summer without fail some idiot drives through African Park Safari and opens their window to try pet a lion.

Never ceases to amaze me how stupid people are.

Really? Happen to know any by name?

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Omar Khadr didn't kill Speers.

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Ah, you've conducted an in-depth investigation, have you? Flown to the site, examined the evidence, interviewed the witnesses?

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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"It also stands to reason that anyone who sympathizes with the enemy or gives aid or comfort to said enemy is likewise guilty.

This is an ancient, decrepit, and illogical attempt at smear by association, so hoary the Inquisition used to use it in Spain.

If so and so believes or does X and you believe or do X, then you must be the same as so and so! Guilty!

It's as intelligent as saying that since Hitler liked German Shepherds anyone who owns a German Shepherd must be like Hitler.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Kadr killed Speers. He admits it, so please, shut up defending this terrorist murderer. I know he only killed some Americans, nothing lost, right? Just so we are clear, I am not trying to Poe you...I am sick of you lefties defending this absolute piece of shit.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/khadr-threw-grenade-to-kill-many-americans-1.871947

The sentence is part of a plea deal reportedly agreed to by the Canadian government, he said. In a phone interview with the CBC from Guantanamo Bay, Edney labelled the plea deal "a piece of paper," and said his client "would have confessed to anything, including the killing of John F. Kennedy, just to get out of this hellhole."

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Ah, you've conducted an in-depth investigation, have you? Flown to the site, examined the evidence, interviewed the witnesses?

I read an account of the original pre-trial, shut down when Obama was elected.

A US soldier saw the pile of rubble before the grenade was thrown that killed Speer.

Later they found Khadr wounded under the rubble.

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The sentence is part of a plea deal reportedly agreed to by the Canadian government, he said. In a phone interview with the CBC from Guantanamo Bay, Edney labelled the plea deal "a piece of paper," and said his client "would have confessed to anything, including the killing of John F. Kennedy, just to get out of this hellhole."

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Oh, a convicted, confessed murderer/terrorist recanting his confession? This is a first. And quoted by his lawyer, which of course adds more weight to it's obvious bona fides.

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He wasn't tried in Canadian courts.

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Makes no difference. He's on Canadian soil and in Canadian prison. Canadian judges rein supreme here. If they felt he was innocent, they could have pardoned him and released him. They haven't. Wonder why not....

Oh ya...they believe he's guilty. Because he murdered US citizens.

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Makes no difference. He's on Canadian soil and in Canadian prison. Canadian judges rein supreme here. If they felt he was innocent, they could have pardoned him and released him. They haven't. Wonder why not....

Oh ya...they believe he's guilty. Because he murdered US citizens.

Nope. They believe he has a strong case for appeal, which is why he has bee granted bail.

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Nope. They believe he has a strong case for appeal, which is why he has bee granted bail.

Has he been pardoned? No. Has he been acquitted? No. Is he still a prisoner of a Canadian prison? Yes. Why? Because he was found guilty and Canadian courts upheld this conviction.

Why? Because he's a murderous piece of garbage.

No debate there is possible.

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Oh, a convicted, confessed murderer/terrorist recanting his confession? This is a first. And quoted by his lawyer, which of course adds more weight to it's obvious bona fides.

It's quite logical really.

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Makes no difference. He's on Canadian soil and in Canadian prison. Canadian judges rein supreme here. If they felt he was innocent, they could have pardoned him and released him. They haven't. Wonder why not....

<sigh>

He hasn't appealed to the court ... yet.

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