On Guard for Thee Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 It doesn't have to be a nation. The nation which fosters and hosts them bears responsibility for their actions when they attack others. In your mind perhaps. In international law, no. But if we follow your logic for a moment, then why didn't the US attack Saudi Quote
Argus Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 In your mind perhaps. In international law, no. But if we follow your logic for a moment, then why didn't the US attack Saudi I don't know if you've ever read anything of history but this has been a longstanding fact since, well, the dawn of time. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
On Guard for Thee Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 I don't know if you've ever read anything of history but this has been a longstanding fact since, well, the dawn of time. Just not a fact in international law, at least since the dawn of the UN and such bodies that are responsible for it. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 I don't know if you've ever read anything of history but this has been a longstanding fact since, well, the dawn of time. Your sources continue to overwhelm, Argus. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 I would like top know how much Canadian taxpayer money that Harper has spent on this continuous fruitless pursuit of Khadr. All he is doing is adding fodder to the eventual civil suite that Kahdr will probably be launching in the near future. Enough already! Don't you think a multi billion dollar award would go a long way to establishing a strong precedent that supporting war criminals is a bad idea? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 I wonder if now Harper has lost his bid to have Khadr declared an adult offender, he will finally stop badgering him, and wasting our tax dollars while making a fool of himself at the SC. Quote
PIK Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Stop badgering him. What is it with the left making heros out of murders. And who started this whole mess, harper. No it was chretein when he used his power as PM to have his father released and the rest is history. So put the blame on this mess where it belongs. Harper is doing his job as PM to protect citizens and put away people that want to harm Canadians. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
On Guard for Thee Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Stop badgering him. What is it with the left making heros out of murders. And who started this whole mess, harper. No it was chretein when he used his power as PM to have his father released and the rest is history. So put the blame on this mess where it belongs. Harper is doing his job as PM to protect citizens and put away people that want to harm Canadians. What is it with the right they get all breathless making wild claims. I didnt see anyone call him a hero. You are allowed to have whatever opinion you like of Khadr. Fortunately law courts are guided by the law, and not by vote seeking ploys. Quote
marcus Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Stop badgering him. Yes. Leave him alone! He's done no wrong! Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
Argus Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) Your sources continue to overwhelm, Argus. I guess I just don't visit as many Nazi and extremist sites as you do, bubba. Edited May 14, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) I wonder if now Harper has lost his bid to have Khadr declared an adult offender, he will finally stop badgering him, and wasting our tax dollars while making a fool of himself at the SC. I wonder when we will see the first report in the media about US jurisdictions becoming increasingly reluctant to agree to transfer Canadian prisoners back to Canada in light of our liberal courts and laws. After all, the basic principle is that they serve their time here, the time American courts have set for them. If our courts are simply going to set people free without regard to that why would they not tear up the treaty? Edited May 14, 2015 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Je suis Omar Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 Fortunately law courts are guided by the law, and not by vote seeking ploys. That's not how it works in the USA. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 If our courts are simply going to set people free without regard to that why would they not tear up the treaty? Why would the ole treaty breakers do anything like that. Remember the meme. They're rule of law. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 I wonder when we will see the first report in the media about US jurisdictions becoming increasingly reluctant to agree to transfer Canadian prisoners back to Canada in light of our liberal courts and laws. After all, the basic principle is that they serve their time here, the time American courts have set for them. If our courts are simply going to set people free without regard to that why would they not tear up the treaty? Yeah thats the theory the cons. tried to flog, but its bogus. First of all he is not in jail but he is also not free. He has a number of bail conditions he must adhere to or it is back to jail. And, the reason (one of) he was granted bail is because he has a strong case for appeal against his initial conviction. Its a standard event, even in US courts, which is where his appeal is being heard. If that is successful, then he will be a free man. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) I guess I just don't visit as many Nazi and extremist sites as you do, bubba.I do visit <.gov.us> sometimes. Is that what you mean?Nevertheless, your sources for your "opinions" are scarcer than hen's teeth. Oh, by the by, did you know that the good guys, the USA, supported PolPot and the Khmer Rouge? Edited May 14, 2015 by Je suis Omar Quote
PIK Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 The guy deserves everything he gets. He is playing the left like a fiddle. He was trained to kill and how to make bombs. How do we know one of his bombs did not kill one of our soldiers. But it seems the left does not care at all about his victims, but if we can use this to hurt harper.................. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
cybercoma Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 I guess I just don't visit as many Nazi and extremist sites as you do, bubba.As many? That certainly explains a lot. Quote
cybercoma Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 The guy deserves everything he gets. He is playing the left like a fiddle. He was trained to kill and how to make bombs. How do we know one of his bombs did not kill one of our soldiers. But it seems the left does not care at all about his victims, but if we can use this to hurt harper..................How do we know one of YOUR bombs didn't kill one of our soldiers? Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 The guy deserves everything he gets..... So you must then be in agreement with his bail. Quote
eyeball Posted May 14, 2015 Report Posted May 14, 2015 The guy deserves everything he gets. I'm betting that'll be around 6.5 - 8 million maybe more...then there'll be book and movie royalties, speaking fees...an appointment to the UN Commission that deals with child soldiers. His future is probably bright even if he will need to wear a bullet proof vest to protect himself from the Argus Breviks of the world. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Moonlight Graham Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 The guy deserves everything he gets. He is playing the left like a fiddle. He was trained to kill and how to make bombs. How do we know one of his bombs did not kill one of our soldiers. But it seems the left does not care at all about his victims, but if we can use this to hurt harper.................. Khadr deserves to be punished by the rule of law, nothing more & nothing less. He was 15 years old when he threw the grenade and made bombs to fight the Western insurgency. That needs to be punished, but he was also 15 and therefore a child at the time. The Harper gov now wants Khadr to be tried as an adult. I don't understand why anyone would want a child to be seen as an adult when clearly they're a child. Harper wants Khadr tried as an adult but was rejected yesterday, yet again, by the Supreme Court. At 15, you can't legally drive, vote, or get married because of still underdeveloped mental capacity and maturity and their ability to be easily influenced by others (including parents) because they don't know any better. Khadr should be punished as a 15 y/o for what he did, not as a man in his 20's which he was not. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
jacee Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 The Supreme Court of Canada ... summarily rejected the federal government's bid to have former Guantanamo Bay prisoner Omar Khadr declared an adult offender. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 Khadr deserves to be punished by the rule of law, nothing more & nothing less. He was 15 years old when he threw the grenade and made bombs to fight the Western insurgency. That needs to be punished, but he was also 15 and therefore a child at the time. The Harper gov now wants Khadr to be tried as an adult. I don't understand why anyone would want a child to be seen as an adult when clearly they're a child. Harper wants Khadr tried as an adult but was rejected yesterday, yet again, by the Supreme Court. At 15, you can't legally drive, vote, or get married because of still underdeveloped mental capacity and maturity and their ability to be easily influenced by others (including parents) because they don't know any better. Khadr should be punished as a 15 y/o for what he did, not as a man in his 20's which he was not. I know there are few who are brave enough to face the truth. We see it all the time. Nothing from Canadian government officials about sanctions on the USA for sixty years of terrorism against Cuba. Nothing for the terrorist attack against Nicaragua, for which the USA was convicted by the ICJ. These myriad lies are so much a part of the USA; these lies have caused the deaths of millions of innocents and yet, unbelievably, there are still those who suggest we take these war criminals' word for anything. These are the people who have torture chambers/death camps around the world. Guantanamo, situated on land stolen from Cuba, is a war crime in and of itself. Why on earth should anyone believe anything that comes from the mouths of these consummate liars? Quote
Shady Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 I think Khadr should also win an all expenses paid trip back to his home country, for life. Quote
Je suis Omar Posted May 15, 2015 Report Posted May 15, 2015 The Supreme Court of Canada ... summarily rejected the federal government's bid to have former Guantanamo Bay prisoner Omar Khadr declared an adult offender. Good to know that there are still some people around with a sense of morality. Omar Khadr's odds of winning U.S. appeal look good, legal expert says 2010 military commission conviction had 'no credible legal foundation,' David Glazier says ... Glazier doesn't think that guilty plea will complicate Khadr's appeal. It's part of the legal tradition in the U.S., and in Canada, he says, that "you can't plead guilty to something that a court can't try you for." Glazier says that Khadr's guilty plea shouldn't have any legal effect. In an in-depth analysis of the five charges against Khadr, Glazier concluded "that none of Khadr's five charges described actual war crimes, even assuming the underlying factual predicates are true." That means the military commission didn't have jurisdiction. http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/omar-khadr-s-odds-of-winning-u-s-appeal-look-good-legal-expert-says-1.3065931 Quote
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