jbg Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Yeah that's worked out well before hasn't it!!!!!!! The definition of insanity is repeating the same thing over again and expecting a different result.Not disagreeing. Just explaining what I see as the reality. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 It's called "the enemy of your enemy is your friend." I doubt the originators of this phrase ever imagined the dog's-breakfast of perverted interests that are lining up to mire themselves in this mess. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 No you dont... You just bleat wretch and moan, insult people, and invent peoples positions for them. Then when asked to back up your accusations you run and hide. Thats not calling anyone out... its a comedy act. While the coalition bombs Iraq and Syria, now Israel, while sitting back and watching, appears to want the coalition to drop a few bombs on Iran and (a few more on) Gaza. Bejamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister has warned the United Nations that a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a far greater threat than the armed group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), which he compared to the Palestinian group Hamas. Addressing the UN General Assembly in New York on Monday, Benjamin Netanyahu described Iran, ISIL and Hamas as part of a single team, and compared them all to Germany's Nazis in World War II. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2014/09/netanyahu-says-iran-greater-threat-than-isil-2014929211933546717.html So now ISIL, Iran and Hamas are all in the same group – all Nazis!!! So maybe those thousands of bombs that Israel tossed into Gaza was to do the West a favour and eradicate those Nazi Palestinian Hamas. I thought it was to stop those wonky rockets flying into Israeli airspace. We are being played like a very fine tuned fiddle!!! Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 While the coalition bombs Iraq and Syria, now Israel, while sitting back and watching, appears to want the coalition to drop a few bombs on Iran and (a few more on) Gaza. Bejamin Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister has warned the United Nations that a nuclear-armed Iran would pose a far greater threat than the armed group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), which he compared to the Palestinian group Hamas. Addressing the UN General Assembly in New York on Monday, Benjamin Netanyahu described Iran, ISIL and Hamas as part of a single team, and compared them all to Germany's Nazis in World War II. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2014/09/netanyahu-says-iran-greater-threat-than-isil-2014929211933546717.html So now ISIL, Iran and Hamas are all in the same group – all Nazis!!! So maybe those thousands of bombs that Israel tossed into Gaza was to do the West a favour and eradicate those Nazi Palestinian Hamas. I thought it was to stop those wonky rockets flying into Israeli airspace. We are being played like a very fine tuned fiddle!!! No it was actually thousands of rockets flying into Israel. You know the one's that came from schoolyards and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I doubt the originators of this phrase ever imagined the dog's-breakfast of perverted interests that are lining up to mire themselves in this mess.This mess is worthy of Macbeth's cauldron. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Who said I favored Bush's "coalition of the willing"? I actually favor as a permanent coalition the following: U.S. Canada United Kingdom Australia New Zealand Israel; (and perhaps) Poland. I do not favor involving countries that don't share our values, have no resources, or are going to be a drag. You can keep trying to sell it as such, but Israel doesn't share our values. In this day and age, none of the citizens of the countries you have listed, with the exception of Israel, would allow their country to get away with what Israel is getting away with. How would this fly in Canada or any of the other countries you have listed? Settlers take over 7 E. Jerusalem homes in dead of night ‘Settlers say that they bought the house, but they haven’t shown us any documents,’ says one Palestinian woman whose home settlers took over Tuesday morning. ‘Now they’re sleeping in my bed; all of our clothes and furniture is still inside.’ By Orly Noy Israeli settlers took over seven homes in the Silwan neighborhood of East Jerusalem Tuesday morning, primarily in Wadi Hilwe, the neighborhood’s main thoroughfare. According to residents, the settlers arrived at around 2 a.m., escorted by large numbers of riot police. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 No it was actually thousands of rockets flying into Israel. You know the one's that came from schoolyards and such. Sorry, So maybe those thousands of bombs that Israel tossed into Gaza was to do the West a favour and eradicate those Nazi Palestinian Hamas. I thought it was to stop those thousands of wonky rockets that came from schoolyards and such flying into Israeli airspace. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Yes, I think your thought, just repeated my thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 ‘Settlers say that they bought the house, but they haven’t shown us any documents,’ says one Palestinian woman whose home settlers took over Tuesday morning. ‘Now they’re sleeping in my bed; all of our clothes and furniture is still inside.’ By Orly Noy Israeli settlers took over seven homes in the Silwan neighborhood of East Jerusalem Tuesday morning, primarily in Wadi Hilwe, the neighborhood’s main thoroughfare. According to residents, the settlers arrived at around 2 a.m., escorted by large numbers of riot police. Here's the other side of the story (link excerpts below): The seven residences, adjacent to the capital’s Old City, were purchased by Elad, a rightwing organization that uses funds from Jewish supporters in the United States and elsewhere to buy properties in Arab districts. According to police, during a brief confrontation, one officer was lightly wounded by a rock that a protester threw. “In terms of the police perspective, the homes were legally sold to the Jewish families, who were escorted by officers to prevent incidents from local Arab residents,” a police spokesman said, adding that there had been no arrests. Tuesday’s move was the largest Jewish purchase of homes in Silwan since the process began in the neighborhood in 1986, raising the number of Jewish-owned properties to 26, local officials said. Around 90 Jewish families, totaling 500 people, live in Silwan among an estimated 50,000 Arabs. ******* Residents of Silwan – a tightly packed neighborhood of winding streets on the side of a hill – acknowledged on Tuesday that there was little they could do to stop Jewish buyers from moving in. In the latest case, Elad purchased all of the homes legally via intermediaries, typically Palestinian brokers who bought the properties from local families at inflated prices. **** Relatives said one of Karaeen’s sons had sold a dwelling inside the grounds of the family home to a Palestinian broker about a year ago for NIS 1.2 million, around twice as much as the property was probably worth. The broker then sold the apartment to Elad, which in turn rented it out to the Jewish occupants. ******** “They think they can drive us out. But we are the landowners. We were here, and we will be here until we have all of Palestine without any Jewish people in it,” he said. In the past, Palestinians found to have sold their homes to settler organizations have been killed. These "victims" or their relatives made huge amounts of money. And they don't want to live with the Jews. They want to drive them out.. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 ...In this day and age, none of the citizens of the countries you have listed, with the exception of Israel, would allow their country to get away with what Israel is getting away with. How would this fly in Canada.... It flies in Canada for generations...still does...just ask First Nations still fighting to settle land claims. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I have been surfing the web trying to get accurate information about the military movements, bombing and ground war in ISIL. Have not been very successful. If you have found one please share with me. I am not on facebook. Is there information coming out in that medium? Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 It flies in Canada for generations...still does...just ask First Nations still fighting to settle land claims. Really now? We see Canadians, supported by Canadian police, walking into aboriginal homes and taking over them? Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 ...We see Canadians, supported by Canadian police, walking into aboriginal homes and taking over them? Yes..."we do"....unsettled land claims....stolen resources....polluted landscapes...scarce potable water. Hell, some court is even trying to force a FN family to undergo chemo treatment for cancer in lieu of traditional medicines. So "lucky" compared to Palestinians. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Yes..."we do"....unsettled land claims....stolen resources....polluted landscapes...scarce potable water. Hell, some court is even trying to force a FN family to undergo chemo treatment for cancer in lieu of traditional medicines. So "lucky" compared to Palestinians. No we do not. You are confused and are confusing things. We will not see Canadians, walking into an aboriginal home and taking over it with the help of the Canadian police. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 No we do not. You are confused and are confusing things. We will not see Canadians, walking into an aboriginal home and taking over it with the help of the Canadian police. I know...it is so inconveniently confusing. Easier to just keep hammering on Israel. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 No we do not. You are confused and are confusing things. We will not see Canadians, walking into an aboriginal home and taking over it with the help of the Canadian police. You ignored my earlier post (link). Primitive people will always fall victim to more advanced ones. That is is, apparently, except in Israel. I can't find the exact quote, but I believe that Mark Twain had said that the world would never let so many free and clever Jews be in the same place. You're echoing the Jew hatred he decried. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) Hudson Jones if you were Canadian of course you would not make such a basic error in syntax when referring to us. Secondly and again I would expect it of someone like you posing his words, there are numerous legal cases and legal examples of civilians and other legal entitles taking over the homes of aboriginals with the help of the police. Say now for a "Canadian" you might want to at least read up on our history and the land right issues, disputes, and legal processes that have involved land rights and aboriginals in this country...psst you know.....Canada. By the way, Bush Chaney's comments would not bother Canadians much as your script writer has advised you to take on the role of aggrieved Canadian. Our legal history as to land disputes in Canada is exactly what Chaney stated. The only difference between our histories is we did not use guns. We sent men in scarlet uniforms and pill box hats to do our dirty work. Also ask your script handlers to talk to you about Louis Riel if you want to pose as a Canadian. Edited October 5, 2014 by Rue Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Hudson Jones if you were Canadian of course you would not make such a basic error in syntax when referring to us. Secondly and again I would expect it of someone like you posing his words, there are numerous legal cases and legal examples of civilians and other legal entitles taking over the homes of aboriginals with the help of the police. Say now for a "Canadian" you might want to at least read up on our history and the land right issues, disputes, and legal processes that have involved land rights and aboriginals in this country...psst you know.....Canada. ******************* Also ask your script handlers to talk to you about Louis Riel if you want to pose as a Canadian. He's a Canadian as much as I am or Arer or Khadr is. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 What bothers me the most about all these topics is that we have such a vanilla view of everything. Mostly we have feedback from retired or middle aged white men. We have no feedback from women, Asians, Muslims, etc. we are operating in a vacuum. I would love to hear from outsiders to this forum. How do we do that? Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) Question I have about ISIS is, are they adhering to the Geneva Convention on the treatment of prisoners? ISIS executed hundreds of Iraqi soldiers link to article); “Islamic State militants killed up to 770 captured Iraqi soldiers after they captured a former US military base in Tikrit back in June, a new report by Human Rights Watch (HRW) said on Wednesday.” Edited October 6, 2014 by jbg Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 What bothers me the most about all these topics is that we have such a vanilla view of everything. Mostly we have feedback from retired or middle aged white men. We have no feedback from women, Asians, Muslims, etc. we are operating in a vacuum. I would love to hear from outsiders to this forum. How do we do that? It's always enlightening to read the comments at the end of news articles. I daresay you getter a better mix of ice cream flavours in those responses. As for enticing outsiders to this forum, we were all outsiders once. That said, do you not see completely opposing views from all those almost retired white men? I mean, it's not as if Cybercoma didn't just tell me I was full of crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) It's always enlightening to read the comments at the end of news articles. I daresay you getter a better mix of ice cream flavours in those responses. As for enticing outsiders to this forum, we were all outsiders once. That said, do you not see completely opposing views from all those almost retired white men? I mean, it's not as if Cybercoma didn't just tell me I was full of crap. Of course cybercoma represents anyone outside of the white middle class or retired white male specimen. We clearly have a well diversified opinion that represents all others. 'We were all outsiders once'. You do mean, white retired or middle class men, do you not? Again, how do we create a diversified and multicultural forum here? Edited October 6, 2014 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 I'm 25 so I don't expect to be retiring any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 I'm 25 so I don't expect to be retiring any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Of course cybercoma represents anyone outside of the white middle class or retired white male specimen. We clearly have a well diversified opinion that represents all others. 'We were all outsiders once'. You do mean, white retired or middle class men, do you not? Again, how do we create a diversified and multicultural forum here? No, I meant you don't need to be outside that group to get differing opinions. As to your question: Beats me. I honestly don't know that much about most posters. Advertise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.