Hudson Jones Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 I have stated Obama's disasterous foreign policy in supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, Erdogan, Hamas and first Al Quaeda then ISIS has come back to blow up in his face and aided the mutation of Al Quaeda to what is now called ISIS. Obama should stop supporting human rights violators. I agree. But you also forgot one of the biggest violators of them all, Israel. Your commentaries have no weight when you keep apologizing for Israel and Zionism. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 The bottom line is JBG no one gives a flyinfg phack about Muslims or Jews, just oil.On this one, my pun is intended. I tell the so-called environmentalists and warmistas to "go frack themselves." The meaning of this pun is that the West now has a historic opportunity not to pay baksheesh to the Arabs. Do you really think ISIS would be a threat if Qatar weren't funding them? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Your commentaries have no weight when you keep apologizing for Israel and Zionism. Lol. Right. I have never apologized for beiing a Jew, the state of Israel's existence or Zionism. Ironically you would like me to but there's as much a chance of that happening as you revealing your true identity and political agenda. Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Lol. Right. I have never apologized for beiing a Jew, the state of Israel's existence or Zionism. Ironically you would like me to but there's as much a chance of that happening as you revealing your true identity and political agenda. Try to pay attention and focus: No one said you need to apologize for being a Jew. It's Israel's actions against the Palestinians which you apologize for. When you unconditionally support Israel's violations of human rights, you are not apologizing for being Jewish, you are apologizing for illegal and immoral actions. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 On this one, my pun is intended. I tell the so-called environmentalists and warmistas to "go frack themselves." The meaning of this pun is that the West now has a historic opportunity not to pay baksheesh to the Arabs. Do you really think ISIS would be a threat if Qatar weren't funding them? I really don't know anymore. When I trace back the origins of the Muslim extremists now morphed into Al Sura, Al Quaeda and ISIS I see traces of the US, Turkey and Saudi Arabia more than I do Qatar. I mean you may be right it sure as hell is hard to know. What I would say is a save bet is today's ISIS or whatever it is at the moment because its evolving as we speak, we do know that its getting its finances from 3 oil wells it has seized, two in Syria and one in Iraq. Conceivably if those oil wells were seized is primary source of revenue would no longer exist, assuming Saudi Arabia, Qatar would not finance it. From what I can see, ISIS would not exist without Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Frm what I can see Qatar appears to be the primary supporter of Hamas which may be crucial now that Hamas finds itself in a bit of a pickle with ISIS and Al Quaeda over its dependency on Hezbollah and Iran. When Assad was not at war with Al Quaeda and ISIS, Sunni extremists did not care Hamas was being pumped with money from Iran-now that they are at war with Iran indirectly in Syria and with Hezbollah and in Iraq, well its tense between them which is good annd bad. If ISIS turns on Hamas and tries to take it over then I think Egypt and Israel would have something to say about that. That's why I believe Hamas quit their latest idiocy with Israel. I think they felt ISIS was challenging their hold in Gaza and realized they could not engage Israel worrying about ISIS behind their back. That's one of my theories of speculation at this point. Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Try to pay attention and focus: No one said you need to apologize for being a Jew. It's Israel's actions against the Palestinians which you apologize for. When you unconditionally support Israel's violations of human rights, you are not apologizing for being Jewish, you are apologizing for illegal and immoral actions. Try pay attention. When you make comments that Zionism is a cancer and must be wiped out, what you have stated is I must disappear as a Jew if I choose sufferage. Try pay further attention. When you say Israel can not exist as a Jewish state, you become a presumptious, hateful, bigot who believes Muslims can have Sharia law states but Jews can not have a Jewish state. That is blatantly two faced and asks me to apologize for wanting to be treated as an equal on a state level no differently than Christians with their Vatican City or Anglican state of England or Hindus with their India, or the many states of South America that have institutionalized their Catholic identity into their state symbols and state identity. Now really pay attention. I have never like you justified terrorism. I have never once on this forum defended Israel if it engages in illegal actions. I totally support and have supported the findings of the Israeli Supreme Court. What I have done is criticize you and the supporters of Hamas and terrorism on this board for using its citizens as shields so that they die and then you have the audacity to try blame that on Israel solely and ignore these people would not have died had Hamas not placed them in harm's way. I have openly challenged you for not admitting Hamas breaks every law known to civility rationalizing this as a moral act of war against Israel when it is not. I have openlyc hallenged you as a hypocrite of the worst kind for trying to present Israel's actions in Gaza as unilateral and not in a response to an attack on its people. I have openly challenged you as a hypocite of the worst kind for refusing to acknowledge if Hamas and all other Muslim terrorists put down their arms and recognized Israel as a Jewish state no one would die. I openly challenge your refusal to even acknowledge Hamas has existed and kills its own people. I openly challenge your trying to hold Israel to a moral standard you will not hold Hamas to. You still paying attention? I do not apologize for illegal land grabs by any Israeli on the West Bank just as I do not apologize for the land fraud committed by Palestinians against each other. I have condemned excessive force used by any soldier or police officer on any Israeli or Palestinian. Unlike you I apply the exact same moral standards to Israelis and Palestinians. Unlike you I consider them both as equals both with identical rights to statehood. Now you have anything else you want to try manipulate? Cuz you know, this Jew aint apologizing for anyone let alone me. Does it appear like I mince words? Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted September 19, 2014 Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 On this one, my pun is intended. I tell the so-called environmentalists and warmistas to "go frack themselves." The meaning of this pun is that the West now has a historic opportunity not to pay baksheesh to the Arabs. Do you really think ISIS would be a threat if Qatar weren't funding them? ISIS controls large swaths of territory now including oil wells in both Iraq and Syria that net them about 1M a piece per day. But they also tax businesses in the areas they control, and run extortion rackets etc. But most of their wealth comes from robbing banks. The cities they have taken over have banks flush with cash and gold bullion. Looting of the central bank in Mosul alone got them 466 million dollars in cash, and a significant ammount of gold on top of that. Theres also an endless supplyi of wealth private donors. The group at present is estimated to have about 2 billion dollars at its disposal... more than many small nation states. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 When you make comments that Zionism is a cancer and must be wiped out, what you have stated is I must disappear as a Jew if I choose sufferage. No. Pay attention Rue: I am stating that Zionism is a cancer. Like Wahabism is a cancer. Like Nazism was a cancer. I don't want Jews, Arabs or Germans to disappear. I want the cancerous ideologies to disappear. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 Conceivably if those oil wells were seized is primary source of revenue would no longer exist, assuming Saudi Arabia, Qatar would not finance it. From what I can see, ISIS would not exist without Turkey and Saudi Arabia. My point stands. Unconventional oil and fracking could edge out that part of the world as being important to the West. That would enable more musculur sanctions and military attacks. With Western dependence on fuel from that part of the world we're reduced to rhetoric and hand-wringing. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted September 20, 2014 Report Share Posted September 20, 2014 No. Pay attention Rue: I am stating that Zionism is a cancer. Like Wahabism is a cancer. Like Nazism was a cancer. I don't want Jews, Arabs or Germans to disappear. I want the cancerous ideologies to disappear. I have had enough of your Jew-hatred. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 This forum is full of people who apologize for Muslim extremism and terrorism such as what ISIS is doing now. Who is doing that? I have had enough of your Jew-hatred. I am kind of suspecting you are not even Jewish yourself. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted September 21, 2014 Report Share Posted September 21, 2014 No. Pay attention Rue: I am stating that Zionism is a cancer. Like Wahabism is a cancer. Like Nazism was a cancer. I don't want Jews, Arabs or Germans to disappear. I want the cancerous ideologies to disappear. You obviously don't know a cancerous ideology from a hole in the ground, you really need to come to grips with your obsession, it's sucking the spark out of your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I am kind of suspecting you are not even Jewish yourself.Happy New Year. And a good 5775 to all. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 (edited) GhostH please finish your comment about JBG. You came on this forum and engaged him personally and said you suspect he is not a Jew. Finish your insult. What does that mean? Why are you questioning his being a Jew? Do you ever finish such allegations and insults? Do explain. What makes him a fake Jew? Finish. When you make such bigoted and ignorant personal attacks have the integrity to finish them. The difference between him, me and you, is we don't run to the moderator when you make such attacks. We ask for clarification. Oh please clarify. Can't wait. p.s. Shonna Tova Tika Tavu (that's an encoded Zionist signal to JBG the fake Jew) Edited September 22, 2014 by Rue Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 p.s. Shonna Tova Tika Tavu (that's an encoded Zionist signal to JBG the fake Jew)On Rosh Hashonah it is written, on Yom Kippur it is sealed.... (that's a coded threat to mendacious posters). Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 GhostH please finish your comment about JBG. You came on this forum and engaged him personally and said you suspect he is not a Jew. Finish your insult. What does that mean? Why are you questioning his being a Jew? Do you ever finish such allegations and insults? Do explain. What makes him a fake Jew? Finish. When you make such bigoted and ignorant personal attacks have the integrity to finish them. The difference between him, me and you, is we don't run to the moderator when you make such attacks. We ask for clarification. Oh please clarify. Can't wait. p.s. Shonna Tova Tika Tavu (that's an encoded Zionist signal to JBG the fake Jew) Who knows if you guys are Jewish or not. This is the internet and anyone can make any claim they want, and the two of you arent exactly known for your credibility. I prefer to think of you as "some guy on the internet that spazzes out really easy and doesnt know what paragraphs are". Nobody cares if you are Jewish or not. I used to point out to people when I was involved in discussions about Conflict: Dirtfarm, that my mom is Jewish and that both my parents came to Canada from Israel... I stopped doing that because it comes across as an attempt to appeal to your own authority. Personal identities dont matter dont matter to me. THey matter to people like you, which is why you cant get through a single one of your bleating and wretching extravaganzas without calling everyone that disagrees with you a racist or terrorist supporter. Whether you are jewish or not, the fact remains that you are an embarassment to jews... You may respond with a thousand lines of poor grammar, tortured logic, made-up facts, and spazztic name calling and adhominom... NOW! Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 I have had enough of your Jew-hatred. This is a typical, low-browed response that is expected from people who follow cancerous ideologies, such as Zionism. You are angry because you cannot stand criticism of your ideology. It's a selfish way of thinking that will crush the rights of others in order to achieve its agenda. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Poor Zionism...never achieved quite the success of other "isms" like....ummmm.... Imperialism. Perhaps a king or queen would help ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Rue, please finish your comment about how many people on this forum are apologists for ISIS. Finish your insult. What does that mean? Do you ever finish such allegations and insults? Do explain. What makes people on this forum apologists for ISIS? Finish. When you make such bigoted and ignorant personal attacks, have the integrity to finish them. The difference between him, me and you, is we don't run to the moderator when you make such attacks. We ask for clarification. Oh please clarify. Can't wait. p.s. Sorry for the poor grammar and punctuation. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Do explain. What makes people on this forum apologists for ISIS? Youre seriously wasting your time if you expect that guy to back up anything he says with anything but wretching and bleating. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 This is a typical, low-browed response that is expected from people who follow cancerous ideologies, such as Zionism. You are angry because you cannot stand criticism of your ideology. It's a selfish way of thinking that will crush the rights of others in order to achieve its agenda. Unfortunately, your hatred of a specific race has already reduced you to babbling nonsense. Too bad about that, but hey, it's your own fault. Hatred breeds all kinds of side effects over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Looks like it is going to get a tad noisy in that "state" as we speak. Air strikes into Syria with 5, count 'em 5 Arab countries involved in "kinetic energy" along with the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Who knows if you guys are Jewish or not. This is the internet and anyone can make any claim they want, and the two of you arent exactly known for your credibility. Nobody cares if you are Jewish or not. I used to point out to people when I was involved in discussions about Conflict: Dirtfarm, that my mom is Jewish and that both my parents came to Canada from Israel... I stopped doing that because it comes across as an attempt to appeal to your own authority. Personal identities dont matter dont matter to me. THey matter to people like you, which is why you cant get through a single one of your bleating and wretching extravaganzas without calling everyone that disagrees with you a racist or terrorist supporter. Whether you are jewish or not, the fact remains that you are an embarassment to jews... You may respond with a thousand lines of poor grammar, tortured logic, made-up facts, and spazztic name calling and adhominom... NOW! Oh, so since you decided on a certain approach WRT your heritage, then everyone else who picks a different way is doing it wrong? Nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Jones Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Unfortunately, your hatred of a specific race has already reduced you to babbling nonsense. Too bad about that, but hey, it's your own fault. Hatred breeds all kinds of side effects over time. Sure thing, little man. Let me know when your constant accusations of "hatred" can be followed up with examples. Until then, all you are is a babbling little man. Quote When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Sure thing, little man. Let me know when your constant accusations of "hatred" can be followed up with examples. Until then, all you are is a babbling little man. Listen, if you are going to try name calling, it comes off sounding real weak when you use the same term you were called. It's kind of like saying, "I know you are but what am I?" Calling me babbling is also quite the opposite of my short to the point posts. Your hatred, quite simply, reveals itself in the repetitive obsessed way you accuse Israel of all these silly baseless conspiracies, crimes and cultures(that was especially creative laugher). You hate Jews. You need to come to grips with this, it's made you into a bitter small minded person that gets the vapours every time Israel is mentioned in the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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