This week in Islam

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

It's a mater of perspective. Some posters here THINK Islamic terrorism is the only thing going on.  While it is a big deal but there are more immediate pressing issues are causing way more problems.  

No they don't, but when they are talking about worldwide Islamic terrorism to compare it to general gun related violence in the US is disingenuous, and about as relevant as disease.

[GostHacked]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

No they don't, but when they are talking about worldwide Islamic terrorism to compare it to general gun related violence in the US is disingenuous, and about as relevant as disease.

So over 15 years globally with Islamic terrorism we have 35K dead.

Over the same 15 years 125K are dead from gun violence in the USA.

 

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

So over 15 years globally with Islamic terrorism we have 35K dead.

Over the same 15 years 125K are dead from gun violence in the USA.

 

Sure, who's arguing?  Like I said, completely irrelevant.

[DogOnPorch]

It's 35,000 terror attacks resulting in at least one death...not 35k dead.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

[Michael Hardner]

More violence against Muslims

Woman and family attacked with poles

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2019-04-26/cctv-captures-hate-crime-attack-on-muslim-mother/

 

[Argus]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

More violence against Muslims

Woman and family attacked with poles

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2019-04-26/cctv-captures-hate-crime-attack-on-muslim-mother/

This just looks like ordinary street violence. There's no evidence she was targeted because she's a Muslim.

[Goddess]

13 minutes ago, Argus said:

This just looks like ordinary street violence. There's no evidence she was targeted because she's a Muslim.

The source is a moderately based right-wing medium "that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes.  These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation."

According to mediabiasfactcheck.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

The source is a moderately based right-wing medium "that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor conservative causes.  These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation."

According to mediabiasfactcheck.

Regardless of what the source is, the details as written do not appear to show she was singled out because of her religion. The British police are hyper-sensitive to any verbal or physical attacks against Islam or Muslims and will lay hate charges at the drop of a hat. Go on the internet and say you don't like Islam and you'll probably have a cop at your door that evening.

Edited April 29, 2019 by Argus

[scribblet]

Meanwhile in the U.S.    

https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/washington-school-district-wants-teachers-to-bless-muslim-students-in-arabic-during-ramadan

A religious liberty advocacy group is threatening to slap a Seattle-area school district with a lawsuit unless it revokes a letter urging teachers to bless Muslim students in Arabic during the holy month of Ramadan and give them preferential treatment, including skipping tests.

The Freedom of Conscience Defense Fund claims the Dieringer School District is officially endorsing Islam and is following a script by the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) that urges schools to make special accommodations for Muslim students and to wish them "Ramadan Mubarak," which means "Happy Ramadan," or "Ramadan Kareem," which means "Have a generous Ramadan."

[Michael Hardner]

22 hours ago, scribblet said:

 A religious liberty advocacy group is threatening to slap a Seattle-area school district with a lawsuit unless it revokes a letter urging teachers to bless Muslim students in Arabic during the holy month of Ramadan and give them preferential treatment, including skipping tests. 

Oh FFS.  Religious *liberty* ?  What an oxymoron... take me off their Christmas Card list... I will wish them 'Happy Holidays' to their faces and watch them do the Exorcist head twist  

[Guest]

I can see wishing them 'Happy Holidays' for Ramadan.  I would too.  I'm all about inclusion.

[scribblet]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Oh FFS.  Religious *liberty* ?  What an oxymoron... take me off their Christmas Card list... I will wish them 'Happy Holidays' to their faces and watch them do the Exorcist head twist  

So you are okay with teachers giving a religious muslim blessing in secular schools...  and in Arabic...  doubt you would agree with teachers giving Easter blessings in the same secular schools.  if you are trying to say you don't believe it, tell it to CAIR whose script the board is following.

Edited May 9, 2019 by scribblet

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, bcsapper said:

I can see wishing them 'Happy Holidays' for Ramadan.  I would too.  I'm all about inclusion.

I'm sure they would love that too.  At least you would signal your humanity in doing so.  

[scribblet]

No problem here with 'happy holidays' for whoever, but not with actual religious blessings - big difference

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm sure they would love that too.  At least you would signal your humanity in doing so.  

Are there any Ramadan cards with that on them, or would I have to get a Christmas card and use a sharpie or something to change it?

[scribblet]

I guess only in the U.K. can they get their knickers in a knot over toilet paper yet...  M & S say it's an aloe plant...  

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8259961/muslims-boycott-m-and-s-toilet-paper-allah/

Muslims are calling for people to boycott M&S toilet tissue because it is allegedly embossed with the Arabic word for God. Footage taken by an unidentified man shows the Aloe Vera 3-ply toilet tissue with the indentation in question. Speaking on the video, the man urges his ‘brothers and sisters’ not to buy the £2.50 roll because ‘every toilet tissue has the name of Allah on it’. Sorry, this video isn't available any more. But Marks and Spencer have denied the claims, responding on Twitter to confirm the pattern is ‘categorically of an aloe vera leaf’.

 

 

Edited May 13, 2019 by scribblet

[dialamah]

Lots of religious people are dumb.  (Some) Christians spent years boycotting Proctor and Gamble because they thought the logo had satanic symbolism.

[scribblet]

Meanwhile in Toronto, where it's 'just a local matter

http://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010/news/two-men-arrested-after-explosives-found-in-richmond-hill-home-1.9231590

 

[dialamah]

Why isn't this story found on MSM?  Could it be because there's an agenda to protect white terrorists?

Alaskan teen plans mass shooting.

Quote

 

An 18-year old from Alaska amassing weapons and silencers was arrested after declaring on social media “Let’s beat Hitler’s count” and referring to “shooting up” a synagogue, The Daily Beast reported.

In addition, the man, named as Michael Lee Graves, posted an image of a person with a massive head injury with the caption, “The perfect treatment for Muslims. Fixes them up good and new.”

Prosecutors in the case say the man showed all signs of a mass shooter preparing for a massacre.

 

 

[DogOnPorch]

The Ramadan scorecard...place your bets.

[eyeball]

You can bet the vast majority of these are due to what would normally and properly be called sectarian violence over power and control and who gets it.  Destabilization in a word - an effect of geopolitical vandalism perpetrated by one too many super-duper powers against one too many Muslim countries.

[DogOnPorch]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You can bet the vast majority of these are due to what would normally and properly be called sectarian violence over power and control and who gets it.  Destabilization in a word - an effect of geopolitical vandalism perpetrated by one too many super-duper powers against one too many Muslim countries.

 

Yeah, yeah...poor Islam...always the victim.

Sectarian violence? Yah figure? And what "sects" might those be, eh?

Mormons?

 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said:

Yeah, yeah...poor Islam...always the victim.

Typical DOP...changing the channel...as always.

[DogOnPorch]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Typical DOP...changing the channel...as always.

 

Hey there, Joseph Smith...

You can always show me how it's really done by listing all those Mormon suicide bombing attacks.

Meanwhile, you just know that if you looked, there'd be yet another example of 'sectarian violence' in some far flung region...as opposed to Canada...that involves your pet religion of Islam.

[scribblet]

Don't  forget the jihadi training camp found in Alabama