WestCoastRunner Posted January 5, 2016 Report Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) My "facilitator" duty is to set a good example for other members. In this case, setting a good example means ignoring such obvious troll bait. Sorry, bro. -k So when you call posters as 'bottom of the barrel' because they disagree with your posts, it's ok?Of course if everyone agrees I am bottom of the barrel, then kimmy stands out as ruler. Edited January 5, 2016 by WestCoastRunner I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
BC_chick Posted January 5, 2016 Report Posted January 5, 2016 No, definitely not the bottom of the barrel, and I'm sure Kimmy the facilitator will not be saying things Kimmy the poster used to say. With great power comes great responsibility or something like that. On the bright side, she's pretty middle of the road so now the whiners can stop crying foul about the moderation around here. It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
WestCoastRunner Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 No, definitely not the bottom of the barrel, and I'm sure Kimmy the facilitator will not be saying things Kimmy the poster used to say. With great power comes great responsibility or something like that. On the bright side, she's pretty middle of the road so now the whiners can stop crying foul about the moderation around here. I agree that responses will be different depending on the role. I am speaking out on this because I am disgusted by responses from male posters with reference to Kimmy's new role. I wish you all the best in your new role kimmy!! I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
kimmy Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 I agree that responses will be different depending on the role. I am speaking out on this because I am disgusted by responses from male posters with reference to Kimmy's new role. I wish you all the best in your new role kimmy!! Thanks, WCR. If you're referring to Hyrdaboss's comments in his status update, that was all in good-natured fun. -k (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
WestCoastRunner Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 Thanks, WCR. If you're referring to Hyrdaboss's comments in his status update, that was all in good-natured fun. -k It's not good natured fun. It's sexist and I'm not sure why it's fine with you? I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
kimmy Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 It's not good natured fun. It's sexist and I'm not sure why it's fine with you? He thinks that my name not being on the "Moderating Team" list is discrimination against half-Swedish blondes. It's not intended to be taken seriously. It's just fun. -k (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
Smallc Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 It's not good natured fun. It's sexist and I'm not sure why it's fine with you? I think you maybe need to lighten up a little sometimes. Not everything is intended as, or should be taken as an offence.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 6, 2016 Report Posted January 6, 2016 Thanks! I'm excited to be helping out, Ike. A few points... this will be on a trial basis. I won't even have super-powers. I have been asked by Mike and Charles to help promote good discussion, discourage people from bad behavior, and generally be a snitch and goody two-shoes. Congrats on your new role Kimmy, of which I just only found out. I guess this would be as appropriate time as any to reveal to all of MLW that you're actually a gay man from Sudbury. FACILITATE THAT! "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
kimmy Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 The Nickel looks totally FABULOUS at this time of year! -k (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
WestCoastRunner Posted January 7, 2016 Report Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) He thinks that my name not being on the "Moderating Team" list is discrimination against half-Swedish blondes. It's not intended to be taken seriously. It's just fun. -k Not sure why you don't see this as sexist. Posters here may think I'm over reacting but if it offends me as a female poster, don't you think that it might offend female lurkers? Or does any long term members here really care? Edited January 7, 2016 by WestCoastRunner I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
dialamah Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Not sure why you don't see this as sexist. Posters here may think I'm over reacting but if it offends me as a female poster, don't you think that it might offend female lurkers? Or does any long term members here really care? I thought it was a joke, kidding around, some friendly banter - and rather nice to see here, where so much seems to be so serious. If the person to whom it was directed isn't offended, why should anyone else be?
WestCoastRunner Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 I thought it was a joke, kidding around, some friendly banter - and rather nice to see here, where so much seems to be so serious. If the person to whom it was directed isn't offended, why should anyone else be?If a female is going to take on the responsibility of a facilitator, that should include consideration of other female posters, whether or not they are active. A facilitator needs to rise above the impulse to obtain approval from other members. They have the added responsibility 'especially female facilitators' to address issues that female posters come across time and again in forums. Certainly, these issues won't be addressed by male facilitators like they should be by female facilitators. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Big Guy Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Why should facilitators and moderators be identified as to gender? I have no idea what gender any of them are (the same as all other posters) and do not feel it has or would make a difference. Why would anybody assume that the gender of someone volunteering to act as an impartial referee have any effect on his/her decision making? Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
WestCoastRunner Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Why should facilitators and moderators be identified as to gender? I have no idea what gender any of them are (the same as all other posters) and do not feel it has or would make a difference. Why would anybody assume that the gender of someone volunteering to act as an impartial referee have any effect on his/her decision making Because female moderators/facilitators are a minority and they are a necessity to provide balance at any forum. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
dialamah Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 If a female is going to take on the responsibility of a facilitator, that should include consideration of other female posters, whether or not they are active. A facilitator needs to rise above the impulse to obtain approval from other members. They have the added responsibility 'especially female facilitators' to address issues that female posters come across time and again in forums. Certainly, these issues won't be addressed by male facilitators like they should be by female facilitators. If by chance you were the only female on the site who found the comment objectionable, would that change your opinion that Kimmy should address it as a facilitator? Given that I'm not overly likely to take offense or to feel that someone else should be shut down because I felt offended, I would be interested to know if there were other women who found the comment offensive.
WestCoastRunner Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 If by chance you were the only female on the site who found the comment objectionable, would that change your opinion that Kimmy should address it as a facilitator? Given that I'm not overly likely to take offense or to feel that someone else should be shut down because I felt offended, I would be interested to know if there were other women who found the comment offensive.Yes, she should absolutely address it as a facilitator. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
kimmy Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Not sure why you don't see this as sexist. Posters here may think I'm over reacting but if it offends me as a female poster, don't you think that it might offend female lurkers? Or does any long term members here really care? I'm not clear on which part offends you. That I'm not on the list yet? I'm not on the list yet because I'm not officially on the moderating team yet. Hydraboss's pretend outrage at the discrimination against half-Swedish blondes? It was just satire. It was a parody of politically correct outrage. Kind of like the time he forced me to resign from the federal election due to inappropriate comments I made about Dairy Queen. Was there something else that I didn't see that I should have been upset about? I don't mean to dismiss your concerns, I'm just trying to understand the complaint. -k (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
Big Guy Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Because female moderators/facilitators are a minority and they are a necessity to provide balance at any forum. How do you know that female moderators/facilitators are a minority? Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
WestCoastRunner Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 I'm not clear on which part offends you. That I'm not on the list yet? I'm not on the list yet because I'm not officially on the moderating team yet. Hydraboss's pretend outrage at the discrimination against half-Swedish blondes? It was just satire. It was a parody of politically correct outrage. Kind of like the time he forced me to resign from the federal election due to inappropriate comments I made about Dairy Queen. Was there something else that I didn't see that I should have been upset about? I don't mean to dismiss your concerns, I'm just trying to understand the complaint. -k Kimmy You can pretend all you want. Doesn't matter much to me, I'm just disappointed. I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
dialamah Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Kimmy You can pretend all you want. Doesn't matter much to me, I'm just disappointed. That's hardly fair. I don't understand your complaint and I'm female; you wanted it addressed by a facilitator, Kimmy tried to address it by asking for clarification and you won't say. If you have a valid complaint, you should be able to articulate it. People aren't mind-readers, not even when they are in the same room as you, never mind over the internet.
Hal 9000 Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) I'm not clear on which part offends you. That I'm not on the list yet? I'm not on the list yet because I'm not officially on the moderating team yet. Hydraboss's pretend outrage at the discrimination against half-Swedish blondes? It was just satire. It was a parody of politically correct outrage. Kind of like the time he forced me to resign from the federal election due to inappropriate comments I made about Dairy Queen. Was there something else that I didn't see that I should have been upset about? I don't mean to dismiss your concerns, I'm just trying to understand the complaint. -k The complaint is simple, You're an honest poster! You're balanced in you beliefs and are honest enough to usually see both sides of a topic. You're not a feminist pushing a feminist agenda, you're not squashing the male posters on this board like she'd like you to do. She can't manipulate you like she manipulates Jacee. The fact that most people here like you, chafes on her badly because to her that means you are subservient to the men. In short, to have a woman on the moderating team that's not a raging feminist is, to her, almost worse than not having a woman on the moderating team at all. Edited January 8, 2016 by Hal 9000 The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Hydraboss Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Kind of like the time he forced me to resign from the federal election due to inappropriate comments I made about Dairy Queen.You deserved it. NO ONE disparages Dairy Queen on my watch. Yes, she should absolutely address it as a facilitator.Did you report it? You should if it bothers you that much. "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
Smallc Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 You deserved it. NO ONE disparages Dairy Queen on my watch. Don't they just have the best...everything. In the US, they have a peanut butter milk shake...I almost died.
GostHacked Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Because female moderators/facilitators are a minority and they are a necessity to provide balance at any forum. Actually we require mods that can do the job. If Kimmy can do a better job than the current moderation, I shall welcome it. I care not if she is female or not. Having her as a mod does not provide balance.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 8, 2016 Report Posted January 8, 2016 Actually we require mods that can do the job. If Kimmy can do a better job than the current moderation, I shall welcome it. I care not if she is female or not. Having her as a mod does not provide balance. Agree with everything but the last sentence. I'm sure there's certain unique issues that come up being a female on a male-dominated forum that guys don't have to deal with (and maybe vice-versa). It can't be anything but good to have her on the team, to see and react to these possible issues and give a female perspective. "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
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