On Guard for Thee Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Yes I lurked but never took the plunge of actually joining the site. I would just read the forum on my phone and laptop or tablet without being signed in. But just finally had some time this week so I decided to join up. Next week I'll be very busy with work so I won't have time to be here as much. Thank God. Maybe spend a few more years just lurking, OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Thank God. Maybe spend a few more years just lurking, OK. Thank God. Maybe spend a few more years just lurking, OK. I don't know why. My opinion is just as valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I don't know why. My opinion is just as valid. Sure it is. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 We need more quality posters. Maybe Greg can put the website in some you tube ads or clicky web ads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I knew as soon as I saw his first post that it was the same capn canada that got banned just the day before. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out. It was no coincidence that Socialist and Lemon appeared the very next day. Funny though, how the mods don't see it. But like I say, we are doing our jobs for zero pay too.The mods aren't paid. This is nothing more than a hobby for people. I think people believe this site is a lot bigger than it really is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I don't know why. My opinion is just as valid.Opinions aren't valid just because they exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 The mods aren't paid. Even if we were paid, it wouldn't ever make sense to ban somebody on a hunch would it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Even if we were paid, it wouldn't ever make sense to ban somebody on a hunch would it ? IN many cases your hunches would have been correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Opinions aren't valid just because they exist. I disagree. Everyone's opinion is valid as everyone is entitled to an opinion. The value of that opinion may be proven to be less then that of others but I don't think that we should question the validity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I disagree. Everyone's opinion is valid as everyone is entitled to an opinion. The value of that opinion may be proven to be less then that of others but I don't think that we should question the validity. Agreed...but some here will always try to deny and devalue the opinions of other members to favour their own ideology and agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Agreed...but some here will always try to deny and devalue the opinions of other members to favour their own ideology and agenda. Everyone likes to right or to be seen as being right most of the time. Human nature I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I think that the tone her has gotten absolutely disgusting. People can't debate without name calling and insults. I come here to have fun and discuss issues, not to be insulted. I'm seriously considering an end to my time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) I think that the tone her has gotten absolutely disgusting. People can't debate without name calling and insults. I come here to have fun and discuss issues, not to be insulted. I'm seriously considering an end to my time here. I completely agree. This is why I finally decided to join up and report every infraction that I see. In an effort to help clean this forum up some and hopefully attract some new good people who are interested in having honest debate and discussion. I'm probably really up against it but the way I see it is either I'm part of the solution or I'm part of the problem or I'm just part of the landscape. Edited February 26, 2015 by LemonPureLeaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) I completely agree. This is why I finally decided to join up and report every infraction that I see. And yet just yesterday in the status you said... This is the last time I will mention it, talk about it, report it or otherwise acknowledge it. I have moved on, I urge you all to do the same.Aint that a bitch huh ? Edited February 26, 2015 by Guyser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemonPureLeaf Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) And yet just yesterday in the status you said... Aint that a bitch huh ? I like this forum and care about it too much to let another poster troll me into acting badly, thereby putting a negative spin on my posts. Great day all! Edited February 26, 2015 by LemonPureLeaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyser Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 This is the type of attitude that is prevalent on these boards moderators.Maybe post what you want, back it up, be coherent and all should be good. But when one posts a whole bunch of malarkey, and it has been done, then they get taken to task on it. Im afraid your skin isnt thick enough. You said one day ago you wouldnt, then today you would. Which is it? It's unfortunate that some people cannot help themselves.Its also sad that some cant help themselves from posting half truths, untruths, bogus made of shite and the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) 101 posts in a few days of becoming a member... + whatever Lemon posted as Socialist... All of which were reasoned, well thought out posts I'm sure... This place has gone to s*** with the complete disinterest of the moderators.... Edited February 27, 2015 by Michael Hardner Profanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Agreed...but some here will always try to deny and devalue the opinions of other members to favour their own ideology and agenda. Some opinions have no value to begin with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 So you want to have segregation? As a lawyer I have to segregate client's money from my own. Is that what you mean by segregation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 The mods aren't paid. This is nothing more than a hobby for people. I think people believe this site is a lot bigger than it really is. I get they aren't paid. But if folks are going to volunteer, than at least take the position with the utmost respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 They've been doing this too long. They're jaded and don't take the time and care to do the job effectively anymore. That's just the way it is now. This has been an ongoing discussion for more than a year and it's clear from the responses to the complaints that nothing's going to change at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 101 posts in a few days of becoming a member... + whatever Lemon posted as Socialist... All of which were reasoned, well thought out posts I'm sure... You know what? The same could have been said about me too when I first joined. It's unfortunate that some people cannot help themselves.Its also sad that some cant help themselves from posting half truths, untruths, bogus made of shite and the rest.It is even more sad that some people can not help themselves from feeding people-they-believe-are-trolls while simultaneously complaining about trolls. Opinions aren't valid just because they exist.Here at MLW "valid" opinions are (a) clearly stated/conveyed/understood opinions and ( politely expressed opinions. Beyond that, the concept of validity as applied to the concept of opinions is a fiction that does not exist outside of the individual human mind. Even if we were paid, it wouldn't ever make sense to ban somebody on a hunch would it ?IN many cases your hunches would have been correct.Perhaps. As you know, it is easy to mask IPs these days. I understand following posting patterns and writing styles. As moderator, I am not comfortable acting on just my hunches when a member's posts otherwise do not break the forum rules and guidelines. To what end? I have never recommended banning somebody without some objective evidence. I would rather NOT make a mistake. Greg knows it and expects such from me. If I was engaged in the discussion, I would probably just ignore the person I suspected of multiple accounts and perhaps encourage others to do the same. If people disagreed with me, who am I to stop them from conversing civilly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 It is even more sad that some people can not help themselves from feeding people-they-believe-are-trolls while simultaneously complaining about trolls. If I was engaged in the discussion, I would probably just ignore the person I suspected of multiple accounts and perhaps encourage others to do the same. If people disagreed with me, who am I to stop them from conversing civilly? You keep missing the point. Why would we ignore the person that we don't think is a troll and in the meantime, other members here have already realized this member is a troll. It is a frustrating experience to discover that a member is a troll under different personas and we are carrying on discussions with them. It leaves a terrible experience for the member who is honestly just trying to debate with a 'real' 'honest' member. If a moderator thinks we have a troll and other members have indicated the same thoughts, why is this 'troll' allowed to poison the forum. Why do we need to 'ignore' someone who is suspected of having multiple accounts. Why are they even allowed to belong to this forum, even if they are conversing civilly? Don't these trolls diminish the reputation of this forum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonam Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 (edited) Don't these trolls diminish the reputation of this forum? What reputation? Does anyone know/care about this forum besides the people that post/lurk here? Edited March 1, 2015 by Bonam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 1, 2015 Report Share Posted March 1, 2015 What reputation? Does anyone know/care about this forum besides the people that post/lurk here? You are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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