Boges Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) I crossed over the border and headed to Idiana...on a Sunday. Not one store open that could sell booze. Cross over into Minn or 4 other states....one can only buy low alohol beer in stores and convenience. Want real beer? Go to to a liquor store Pennsylvania is worse. Now back to smoking doobies....I mean discussing the merits of legalization OK then do it like New York and Florida does it OR Quebec! Also is Colorado one of the states with puritan alcohol laws? I'll hang up and listen. Edited August 21, 2014 by Boges Quote
Boges Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) And don't you think it's just a bit easier for that cop to see me speeding by down the street in my 2000 lb automobile than walking by him with a quarter ounce of pot in my pocket? If you're bold enough to smoke it in public, It's illegal right now and lots of people do it. Just give them a quota. Edited August 21, 2014 by Boges Quote
Boges Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 Are they growing it or just distributing it? They have the land to grow it. Or they may buy it wholesale and sell it tax-free (since they don't have to on a reserve). I've heard the Hell's Angels are involved. Many of the completely addicted smokers I know get tobacco this way. I'm sure they could get in the MJ business if it becomes legal. I've gotten my hands on cigars from the reserves, not exactly Cubans but they do the trick. Quote
Black Dog Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 They have the land to grow it. Or they may buy it wholesale and sell it tax-free (since they don't have to on a reserve). I've heard the Hell's Angels are involved. So this is a case where selling it tax-free means a cheaper product. But weed is expensive on the black market, it's price inflated by the costs of prohibition. If there's a legal trade, theoretically, prices would go down (that's certainly what's happening in Colorado as supply goes up). So it's not really an apples to apples comparison. Many of the completely addicted smokers I know get tobacco this way. I'm sure they could get in the MJ business if it becomes legal. Only if its cheaper. Otherwise, what's the point? I've gotten my hands on cigars from the reserves, not exactly Cubans but they do the trick. So the black market would have to sell weed of questionable quality at a significant price cut to compete with legal sources. Why bother? Most operators will probably just go legit. Quote
guyser Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 OK then do it like New York and Florida does it OR Quebec! Also is Colorado one of the states with puritan alcohol laws? I'll hang up and listen. The point is and was, it is heavily regulated down there as it is here, some places moreso, some less Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 If you're bold enough to smoke it in public, It's illegal right now and lots of people do it. Just give them a quota. If you boldly break any law then you get what's coming, although again I suspect people who smoke pot in public do so because they know a cop has to be pretty bored to bother.Now if that smoker had paid tax on that weed, we'd be into some real dough. Quote
Boges Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 If you boldly break any law then you get what's coming, although again I suspect people who smoke pot in public do so because they know a cop has to be pretty bored to bother.Now if that smoker had paid tax on that weed, we'd be into some real dough. And what if he/she didn't? Quote
dre Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 They have the land to grow it. Or they may buy it wholesale and sell it tax-free (since they don't have to on a reserve). I've heard the Hell's Angels are involved. Many of the completely addicted smokers I know get tobacco this way. I'm sure they could get in the MJ business if it becomes legal. I've gotten my hands on cigars from the reserves, not exactly Cubans but they do the trick. Yeah but I doubt even 1% of tobacco sales are on the black market. Today 100% of MJ sales are, and the entire proceeds from a multi billion dollar industry go to organized criminals. The fact that some black market activity may persist is not even close to being an argument against ending prohibition. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
BubberMiley Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 And what if he/she didn't?Uh...criminal charges? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
guyser Posted August 21, 2014 Report Posted August 21, 2014 And what if he/she didn't?Think cassette tapes.......? They taxed them at source, so if you buy, you pay it. Quote
Boges Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 http://www.torontosun.com/2014/01/10/contraband-cigarette-problem-in-ontario-runs-deep Yeah but I doubt even 1% of tobacco sales are on the black market. Today 100% of MJ sales are, and the entire proceeds from a multi billion dollar industry go to organized criminals. The fact that some black market activity may persist is not even close to being an argument against ending prohibition. More than 1% Quote
eyeball Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) Today 100% of MJ sales are, and the entire proceeds from a multi billion dollar industry go to organized criminals. Surely the thousands of Mom and Pop operations with little mortgage helpers in a closet can't be considered organized criminals...low life scum bags that belong in jail to be sure but, organized criminals? Edited August 22, 2014 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
On Guard for Thee Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 And what if he/she didn't? You mean didn't pay tax? Then they'd be like that small contingent of the population that makes their own wine etc. at home. No big deal. Those who wouldn't bother with that....big dough. Quote
eyeball Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 People who make their own wine pay taxes on everything they buy that's used to make wine, just like the scum bags I mentioned above who buy stuff they need to grow pot. What right-wingers want is an extra sin tax on top of everything else. Right-wing Nanny states are only different in that their Nanny is a mean cold hearted bitch. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
On Guard for Thee Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 People who make their own wine pay taxes on everything they buy that's used to make wine, just like the scum bags I mentioned above who buy stuff they need to grow pot. What right-wingers want is an extra sin tax on top of everything else. Right-wing Nanny states are only different in that their Nanny is a mean cold hearted bitch. Wow man, she gives me the heebie jeebies. I may just fire up a joint. Quote
Big Guy Posted September 6, 2014 Report Posted September 6, 2014 There is proof of the benefits of pot over prescription pain killing drugs; http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/25/health/medical-marijuana-overdose-deaths/ Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
jacee Posted September 7, 2014 Report Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) There is proof of the benefits of pot over prescription pain killing drugs; http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/25/health/medical-marijuana-overdose-deaths/ Hey that's amazing! We found there was about a 25% lower rate of prescription painkiller overdose deaths on average after implementation of a medical marijuana law," lead study author Dr. Marcus Bachhuber said.In 2010 alone, he said, states with medical marijuana laws had approximately 1,700 fewer overdose deaths than would have been expected based on the numbers before such laws were passed. Save the world! Pot for pain! Edited September 7, 2014 by jacee Quote
BubberMiley Posted September 7, 2014 Report Posted September 7, 2014 it's even better as an anti-anxiety medication (in small doses). Ativan and Xanax can kill you and are extremely physically addictive. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
overthere Posted September 7, 2014 Report Posted September 7, 2014 From a consumer viewpoint the legalization of weed would have to drive prices down and quality up. The competition between private and public sector skunk would be fierce. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
eyeball Posted September 7, 2014 Report Posted September 7, 2014 No, it'll be like buying dairy products. The government will facilitate the creation of a cartel for the purpose of enriching the rich. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PIK Posted September 11, 2014 Report Posted September 11, 2014 There is proof of the benefits of pot over prescription pain killing drugs; http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/25/health/medical-marijuana-overdose-deaths/ Really I suffer from some chronic pain and weed does nothing, but maybe help you sleep. IMO This is a scam. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Big Guy Posted September 12, 2014 Report Posted September 12, 2014 Really I suffer from some chronic pain and weed does nothing, but maybe help you sleep. IMO This is a scam. There are thousands of people who have a beneficial reaction. This is not a scam. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
jacee Posted September 12, 2014 Report Posted September 12, 2014 Really I suffer from some chronic pain and weed does nothing, but maybe help you sleep. IMO This is a scam.Try again:There are different types for different conditions. Using a vapourizer maximizes pain relief and minimizes sleepiness (brain) effect. . Quote
Rocky Road Posted September 20, 2014 Report Posted September 20, 2014 God its not that great. Think Mental Health. Quote
jacee Posted September 20, 2014 Report Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) God its not that great. Think Mental Health. It's way less dangerous than the addictive opiates that doctors prescribe for chronic pain, and helps with anxiety too. Perhaps you missed this: . Big Guy06 Sep 2014 There is proof of the benefits of pot over prescription pain killing drugs; http://www.cnn.com/2...verdose-deaths/ Edited September 20, 2014 by jacee Quote
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