Argus Posted June 11, 2013 Report Posted June 11, 2013 I don't *want* to see Mulcair or Trudeau be Prime Minister. I don't believe in those guys. I would much prefer to see Stephen Harper get his shit together, but right now he needs a reality check because he is screwing up big-time. -k I would like to see him go. I'd like a new leader at the top, maybe one that's at least a little conservative. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted June 11, 2013 Report Posted June 11, 2013 I would like to see him go. I'd like a new leader at the top, maybe one that's at least a little conservative. If Harper goes, who would you like to see as leader of that party? Quote
Argus Posted June 11, 2013 Report Posted June 11, 2013 If Harper goes, who would you like to see as leader of that party? The problem with Harper, one of the problems, is he has focused too much power in his hands, and so we really don't see or hear too much about anyone else. We certainly don't know much about what other members of the party think or want because they can only speak about the talking points from the PMO. What does Flaherty think about much of anything other than budgetary questions? Who knows. Jason Kenney seems competent, but what does he feel on non-immigration issues? We'd need a leadership contest to bring those out. Right now, I'd say Kenney is the most visible alternative, but he's made a point of being so. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Big Guy Posted June 11, 2013 Report Posted June 11, 2013 We are constantly being warned that we are in a war against forces of terror and must expect to relinquish certain privacy rights for security purposes. Meanwhile our Prime Minister decides to make his plane as identifiable as possible to those wishing to do us harm. I am looking forward to his first flight into Kandahar. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
Fletch 27 Posted June 11, 2013 Report Posted June 11, 2013 And now your wishing death upon the PM.. This site is getting ridiculous.. Simply ridiculous. We are constantly being warned that we are in a war against forces of terror and must expect to relinquish certain privacy rights for security purposes. Meanwhile our Prime Minister decides to make his plane as identifiable as possible to those wishing to do us harm. I am looking forward to his first flight into Kandahar. Quote
PIK Posted June 11, 2013 Report Posted June 11, 2013 We are constantly being warned that we are in a war against forces of terror and must expect to relinquish certain privacy rights for security purposes. Meanwhile our Prime Minister decides to make his plane as identifiable as possible to those wishing to do us harm. I am looking forward to his first flight into Kandahar.Well if you been paying attention, we are no longer in Kandahar and he won't be going back. It is amazing how the left will ignore billions gone in ONT and the NDP are going to keep the most corrupted goverment in power for another year/40b more in debt, but yet make a huge fuss over a paint job and 90 grand. Pull your heads out of your asses.The world must be shaking thier heads at how dumb and blind and arrogant the left has become. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
August1991 Posted June 12, 2013 Author Report Posted June 12, 2013 The onyl real question is - who replaces them? You ask a key question. Harper, I suspect, is counting on voters who have no other choice. But in this world, the political landscape shifts quickly. Voters will soon have an alternative. As soon as 2015. Quote
Smallc Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Also, 50K is dirt cheap to paint an aircraft that size. I have trouble believing it was that low. I think it was $50K in addition to the normal costs if it were to be repainted as it was. Edited June 12, 2013 by Smallc Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 Well if you had been to Kandahar, as I have, a number of times, you'd know we are still there. But aside from that, Harper has been labelled a "dictator" by some from his own cabinet. (Their words not mine) And he's been caught in so many lies of late, the senate scandal being a veritable potpourris,, some new ones just today. I doubt he'll run away to Kanadahar, especially with that paint job. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 And I hasten to add, the aircraft is not owned by the CPC, it is owned by the RCAF, which is us. Quote
AlienB Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) I guess when the NDP comes to power we can expect an orange plane... and no complaining from CPC supporters? Or do CPC supporters admit that this is a bit ridiculous and frivolous? You just can bring it with you into the polling station right...Party colours right. Hold on but would that make the Canadian flag liberal propaganda? Edited June 12, 2013 by AlienB Quote
Bryan Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 Hold on but would that make the Canadian flag liberal propaganda? A lot of people argued as such at the time. All previously used and proposed flags contained red-white-blue. Well into 1964, the flag was supposed to at least have some blue on the sidebars. The switch to drop blue completely was made quite late in the process. The whole thing was very political, and quite controversial. Quote
PIK Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 Well if you had been to Kandahar, as I have, a number of times, you'd know we are still there. But aside from that, Harper has been labelled a "dictator" by some from his own cabinet. (Their words not mine) And he's been caught in so many lies of late, the senate scandal being a veritable potpourris,, some new ones just today. I doubt he'll run away to Kanadahar, especially with that paint job.In what numbers, not enough to warrent a visit by the PM. The senate has been brewing for many years ,so what did chretien do in those 13 years in power, nothing. Harper is in charge of trying to clean things up, and he is doing a good job, while fighting off a very bias media something chretien never had to worry about. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
guyser Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 A lot of people argued as such at the time. All previously used and proposed flags contained red-white-blue. Well into 1964, the flag was supposed to at least have some blue on the sidebars. The switch to drop blue completely was made quite late in the process. The whole thing was very political, and quite controversial. RMC flag was used as the inspiration, no blue on that one. Blue was thought to signify the two oceans, but then people figured red white and blue to be a bad choice. As for painting the plane, meh....all new govts like to put their spin on things. The Prov govts changd road sign colours in the past....we were blue for a long time in this province Quote
GostHacked Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) I think it looks good. I think it's good for the country's image when its VIP's arrive in other countries on a distinctive aircraft, rather than one in military transport livery. Although the colour scheme is different, they are the same colours used by the Snowbirds. Are they a Tory plot as well? I think not as Justin's old man was PM when they were formed. Wonder if he even knows that. Also, aircraft need repainting every few years. Operating in an environment at speeds close to 900 KPH and temperatures ranging from +40C to -60C is hard on paint. If it's due, why not do something that's a little special. Snowbird aircraft are predominately red. Same colours, but not used in the same way. Damn read your post wrong, you did mention this. Edited June 12, 2013 by GostHacked Quote
PIK Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 I think it looks good. I think it's good for the country's image when its VIP's arrive in other countries on a distinctive aircraft, rather than one in military transport livery. Although the colour scheme is different, they are the same colours used by the Snowbirds. Are they a Tory plot as well? I think not as Justin's old man was PM when they were formed. Wonder if he even knows that. Also, aircraft need repainting every few years. Operating in an environment at speeds close to 900 KPH and temperatures ranging from +40C to -60C is hard on paint. If it's due, why not do something that's a little special. And I love it how the left is all over harper about his respect for the armed forces , and now are screaming for changing the colour from a military green. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Wilber Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 Snowbird aircraft are predominately red. Same colours, but not used in the same way. Damn read your post wrong, you did mention this. Yes, predominately red. Damn those Liberals. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
cybercoma Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 Of course this was done to connect the party's colour to Government of Canada, just as calling it the Harper Government on letterhead was meant to get people to associate Harper with Government of Canada. This is just another in a long line of narcissistic acts by Stephen Harper since he took office. Do I really care that he painted the jet blue? Not in the least bit. I couldn't possibly care less. But let's not sit here and pretend that there isn't a method behind it. It's pretty naive to think otherwise. Quote
GostHacked Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 Yes, predominately red. Damn those Liberals. Our flag is red and white. The plane should reflect those colours in my view. Red White and Blue? Even Harper thinks is an American. Quote
Wilber Posted June 12, 2013 Report Posted June 12, 2013 (edited) Our flag is red and white. The plane should reflect those colours in my view. Red White and Blue? Even Harper thinks is an American. What's the matter with red white and blue? Why are you so fixated on the US, lots of other countries use that combination in their flags including France and the UK. Edited June 12, 2013 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 13, 2013 Report Posted June 13, 2013 Montreal Canadiens team colors: Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Bryan Posted June 13, 2013 Report Posted June 13, 2013 What's the matter with red white and blue? Why are you so fixated on the US, lots of other countries use that combination in their flags including France and the UK. ..Cuba, Czech Republic, Australia, Iceland, Russia, and (until the Liberals decided to change it), Canada. Quote
WWWTT Posted June 13, 2013 Report Posted June 13, 2013 In what numbers, not enough to warrent a visit by the PM. The senate has been brewing for many years ,so what did chretien do in those 13 years in power, nothing. Harper is in charge of trying to clean things up, and he is doing a good job, while fighting off a very bias media something chretien never had to worry about. LOL! It's the media's fault? WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
Boges Posted June 13, 2013 Report Posted June 13, 2013 (edited) Perhaps all political parties colours should reflect the flag. In the US the Democrats and Republicans both use a form of the flag in their logo. The difference is an animal as a mascot. To me the paint job is a reflection of the Royal Canadian Airforce colours more than the CPC's colours anyway. Edited June 13, 2013 by Boges Quote
DogOnPorch Posted June 13, 2013 Report Posted June 13, 2013 Unless it's painted Iron-Ball ECM grey, it really doesn't matter what darn colour this Airbus 310 is painted. An S-300 system would find it no-problemo at maximum range. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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