Meaning of Christmas becoming redundant?

betsy · December 6, 2012

Not me. The wife and (grown) kids. (That is, they insist I do it)

I look for any excuse not to do it, and the JWs were better than, "it's too cold".

We face a field, for Pete's sake. We would be the only people who would see them, bar one or two.

Well, the good ole JWs came in handy. From a Christian perspective - I'd say God took pity on you and gave you a way out.

betsy · December 6, 2012

I don't think she's the one that's in a knot. It seems to me the JWs are the one's all bunched up.

Why would she get all "bunched up" with them then?

Golly, they say Christmas is so stressful enough without having to add up with something that's a no-brainer.

If you see someone as a nut....why would you even take them so seriously enough to farther your stress...unless you're also like them?

cybercoma · December 6, 2012

Again, she doesn't sound stressed at all. The JW's on the other hand do.

guyser · December 6, 2012

BC Sapper said so... I think it was mentioned earlier that they oppose celebration of anything, even birthdays.

-k

Yup , they do.

But (for awhile) they make great girlfriends. Dont have to buy any christmas gifts nor birthday gifts even tho I snuck an xmas gift in for her)

Sadly, they can be greatly influenced by their church even if ex-communicated. They convinced her to part company with me over my not believeing in any god stance. However.....if they only knew what she liked to do behind their backs.....it would not be me they would be trying to save.

wyly · December 6, 2012

Yup , they do.

But (for awhile) they make great girlfriends. Dont have to buy any christmas gifts nor birthday gifts even tho I snuck an xmas gift in for her)

Sadly, they can be greatly influenced by their church even if ex-communicated. They convinced her to part company with me over my not believeing in any god stance. However.....if they only knew what she liked to do behind their backs.....it would not be me they would be trying to save.

my niece an atheist married JW, I said it would never last and it didn't...they get love on the brain and think that will solve everything but there are huge philosophical differences to bridge and once the initial excitement of romance/sex subsides those differences start showing up...

-TSS- · December 7, 2012

One reason why Oliver Cromwell's republic in England in 1648-1660 became very unpopular was because of his religious zealotry. He, among other things, banned pubs and celebrating Christmas. Life under his rule became so miserable even by the standards of the 17th-century that once his republic collapsed the people were only too happy to welcome back the corrupt and despotic monarchs who at least allowed people to have some fun in life.

Sleipnir · December 8, 2012

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betsy · December 9, 2012

CHRISTMAS FLASH MOB!

Shady · December 9, 2012

I'm looking forward to all the Winter Solstice parties in the coming weeks.

Just as the anti-Christmas and anti-Christian posts and threads, you'll see some Winter Solstice references as well. It's like clockwork. They can't help themselves! It happens every year at this time.

I've never seen so many people post so many times about a holiday they claim to not care at all about. Denouncing its importance and religiousity. Calling Dr. Freud!

Edited December 9, 2012 by Shady

GostHacked · December 9, 2012

Just as the anti-Christmas and anti-Christian posts and threads, you'll see some Winter Solstice references as well. It's like clockwork. They can't help themselves!

All this consumerism that is the modern inception of Christmas makes Baby Jesus cry.

Shady · December 9, 2012

All this consumerism that is the modern inception of Christmas makes Baby Jesus cry.

Good. Then don't participate.

Sleipnir · December 9, 2012

Denouncing its importance and religiousity.

Like who? I must be missing something

The_Squid · December 9, 2012

you'll see some Winter Solstice references as well.... It happens every year at this time.

LOL. I wonder why???

GostHacked · December 9, 2012

Good. Then don't participate.

I don't, and have not in years. The only way I participate is spending time with my family and friends.

But it's funny that I appreciate Jesus' teachings and how he would frown upon the rampant consumerism supposedly done in his name to celebrate him. How unChristian of me to point out how consumerism goes against what Jesus taught.

Christmas is nothing more than marketing items you don't really need. It's commercialism at it's peak. Gotta keep that economy going by purchasing craptastic goods from China.

Greed, wanting stuff you don't need.

Envy, pissed off that someone got more gifts than you.

Nothing like Christmas music in the malls being played a month early to try and entice me into buying things for others. Stuff they mainly do not need or even want. Nothing like wondering how one is going to pay off the items racked up on more credit card debt on the notion of 'giving'. Most of the people can't afford the item when it's on sale let alone the full price, so why are people taking on huge debts just to give gifts? And then others are giving you gifts as well.

I give you a 50$ gift cert for a place, and I give you 50$ gift cert for a different place.

Once I found out at a young age, how much my parents were spending on me and my sister, I told them to not buy gifts for me. Not like that stopped them. In retrospect I never got a lot of enjoyment from most of the gifts I received.

If I need/want something, I would have purchased it myself. But many of you cannot even realize how commercialized Christmas has become.

Smallc · December 9, 2012

I hate Christmas. I can't wait for it to be over. It's just an exercise in stress trying to spend money I don't have to buy presents that nobody wants just so some business owner or some stockholder can get a little richer.

See, I love Christmas, but I hate that part of it. I love the gathering, the feeling, the decorations, etc.

The_Squid · December 9, 2012

See, I love Christmas, but I hate that part of it. I love the gathering, the feeling, the decorations, etc.

I concur.

Sleipnir · December 9, 2012

If I need/want something, I would have purchased it myself. But many of you cannot even realize how commercialized Christmas has become.

What is sadder is how much the economy relies on consumer's purchasing power for that one day of the year.

Edited December 9, 2012 by Sleipnir

Shady · December 10, 2012

What is sadder is how much the economy relies on consumer's purchasing power for that one day of the year.

I don't think it's necessaarily so bad that people are buying gifts to give away to other people.

Sleipnir · December 10, 2012

I don't think it's necessaarily so bad that people are buying gifts to give away to other people.

What I meant is the attitude that many companies are displaying as if December 25th is a make or break moment EVERY single year.

A healthy, sound economy should not rely this heavily on one particular date of the year to make it through.

I guess I'm saying 'don't put all your eggs in one basket'.

Edited December 10, 2012 by Sleipnir

Shady · December 10, 2012

What I meant is the attitude that many companies are displaying as if December 25th is a make or break moment EVERY single year.

A healthy, sound economy should not rely this heavily on one particular date of the year to make it through.

I guess I'm saying 'don't put all your eggs in one basket'.

It's one sector of the economy, not the economy itself. Anyways, that's irrelevant to the celebration of Christmas. Either do it, or don't. I couldn't care less.

GostHacked · December 10, 2012

What is sadder is how much the economy relies on consumer's purchasing power for that one day of the year.

It is a huge money maker for corporations to rake in last minute cash flow to help the bottom line at the end of the fiscal year.

It's one sector of the economy, not the economy itself. Anyways, that's irrelevant to the celebration of Christmas. Either do it, or don't. I couldn't care less.

it's one time period in the economy, not a sector of it. And you are right it is irrelevant to the celebration of Christmas. So why does it exist as the rampant commercialized consumerism that it is?

Still wondering how that is somehow all blamed on the secularists.

Shady · December 10, 2012

It is a huge money maker for corporations to rake in last minute cash flow to help the bottom line at the end of the fiscal year.

Still wondering how that is somehow all blamed on the secularists.

It's a huge money maker for businesses of all kinds, not just corporations.

Mighty AC · December 10, 2012

There is no war on Christmas. Being wished a happy holiday or seasons greetings isn't an invasion by Muslims, Jews and Atheists...it's a catchall greeting. Celebrate the holiday any way you choose. Embrace commercialism, family, friends, religion, excess, all of the above or none of the above; whatever floats your boat. Just please refrain from telling others the REAL meaning of the season and how they are doing it wrong.

Shady · December 11, 2012

There is no war on Christmas. Being wished a happy holiday or seasons greetings isn't an invasion by Muslims, Jews and Atheists...it's a catchall greeting. Celebrate the holiday any way you choose. Embrace commercialism, family, friends, religion, excess, all of the above or none of the above; whatever floats your boat. Just please refrain from telling others the REAL meaning of the season and how they are doing it wrong.

Who are you talking to? Because nobody's said that. You're a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen.

Mighty AC · December 11, 2012

My statement wasn't directed at you, it is just a rant that happened to follow you comment. The source of my rant was a talk radio segment in which callers were complaining about various aspects of the season. The most common complaint was of the "keep Christ in Christmas" variety. The apparent source of caller outrage was that people have the nerve to say Happy Holidays to them instead of Merry Christmas. I like the pyromaniac comment though...I may use it.