MiddleClassCentrist Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxw4uZAezaI Edited February 11, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
WWWTT Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Man that clip is freekin hallarious! Much like a raving lunatic rambling downtown blaming the European economic crisis on some passing pigeons pecking away at some bread crumbs. Just freekin hallarious! WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
-TSS- Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 I don't know exactly which state we are talking about but somehow I don't think there is a strong Asian vote involved in that state. I agree, that clip was hilarious but also a sad reflection of the American politics. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 I don't know exactly which state we are talking about but somehow I don't think there is a strong Asian vote involved in that state. The state is Michigan (2.5% "Asian"), but that is not the purpose of the ad. I agree, that clip was hilarious but also a sad reflection of the American politics. The ad is very effective. It is generating more publicity for challenger Hoekstra. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Guest American Woman Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 I agree, that clip was hilarious but also a sad reflection of the American politics. Yeah right, because I'm sure there are no "hilarious" ads by any candidates in any other nation, so of course it's a "sad reflection of the American politics" - it's not a reflection of the candidate - but of "American politics." Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Yeah right, because I'm sure there are no "hilarious" ads by any candidates in any other nation, so of course it's a "sad reflection of the American politics" - it's not a reflection of the candidate - but of "American politics." Don't hurt 'em too bad AW....it's all they have to watch! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
MiddleClassCentrist Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Posted February 11, 2012 Don't hurt 'em too bad AW....it's all they have to watch! This is true. Who needs TV when we have a living comedy network to observe Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
Guest American Woman Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Don't hurt 'em too bad AW....it's all they have to watch! But... but... TSS is from Finland. And I'm still trying to figure out why, when he says he doesn't know what state is being talked about, he would presume to think it doesn't have a high Asian population. If one doesn't know what state we are talking about, how they presume to know anything about it? Makes no sense. Furthermore, "Asia" includes a lot more countries than just China. Oh well, guess any ad any candidate comes up with "speaks for America." Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 That ad is so hilariously horrible, it's just sooo perfect it's almost not real lol. It probably wouldn't have been so bad had the "actress" not been so awful. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Shady Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Yeah right, because I'm sure there are no "hilarious" ads by any candidates in any other nation, so of course it's a "sad reflection of the American politics" - it's not a reflection of the candidate - but of "American politics." Well said. This particular poster perfectly exemplifies the pseudo-superiority complex of a certain fringe of Canadians. I think it's a result of their immense insecurity. This is one of the ways they try to cope. Quote
Guest American Woman Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Too bad they didn't hire the actress from the same talent agency that Canadian politicians use. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrV9ORMeZU Nothing funny or hilariously horrible about that - just "a sad reflection on Canadian politics." Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 ... If one doesn't know what state we are talking about, how they presume to know anything about it? Makes no sense. Furthermore, "Asia" includes a lot more countries than just China. Finland or Canada...it doesn't matter. They are conditioned to see America and Americans in ways that reinforce their stereotypes. Oh well, guess any ad any candidate comes up with "speaks for America." It's true...America is what they see in our media. Some still think that cowboys roam the Wild West. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
dre Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Finland or Canada...it doesn't matter. They are conditioned to see America and Americans in ways that reinforce their stereotypes. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
August1991 Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Yeah right, because I'm sure there are no "hilarious" ads by any candidates in any other nation, so of course it's a "sad reflection of the American politics" - it's not a reflection of the candidate - but of "American politics." If I were Romney, I would run the ad with subtitles. China now owns US federal debt. Obama - with his stimulus package - has sold America to Asia. What's the phrase? America is pwnd. Edited February 11, 2012 by August1991 Quote
dre Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 If I were Romney, I would run the ad with subtitles. China now owns US federal debt. Obama - with his stimulus package - has sold America to Asia. What's the phrase? America is pwnd. America was sold when Obama was still a small boy reading the Koran in Kenya Hes simply carried with business as usual as things have been done for 40 years. And its not just America thats in the bargain bin its most of the west. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Moonlight Graham Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 What's the phrase? America is pwnd. China has the US by the balls (in many ways actually), and vice versa I suppose. Now, what if China decided to stop buying these treasury securities or started selling them. Cash in time who totally eff US finances. Though as I said, the US also has China by the balls. They could decide to move their business elsewhere, thus damaging the Chinese economy greatly. It's nice that instead of relying on nukes as deterrence of war as during the Cold War, instead close economic interdependence assures a much lower risk of conflict between these 2 powers. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
dre Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) China has the US by the balls (in many ways actually), and vice versa I suppose. Now, what if China decided to stop buying these treasury securities or started selling them. Cash in time who totally eff US finances. Though as I said, the US also has China by the balls. They could decide to move their business elsewhere, thus damaging the Chinese economy greatly. It's nice that instead of relying on nukes as deterrence of war as during the Cold War, instead close economic interdependence assures a much lower risk of conflict between these 2 powers. In the short term its pretty much a breakeven scenario. The US runs a huge trade deficit in real goods with the US, but dumps all that money back into the US by buying treasuries. The problem is in the long term, when all that cheap chinese crap has long been dumped in landfills, China is sitting a massive pile of treasuries redeemable for US dollars. Its a wierd relationship... Picture a business just giving you your money back after each purchase, so that you could keep buying more stuff over and over again The problem is of course that the US will eventually have to pay for the real cost of all this consumption. When they buy a Chinese made DVD player for 20 bux their giddy as a pig in shit. Problem they go 10 dollars deeper in debt without even knowing it each time they do that. You think youre getting a deal but youre really just getting a deffered payment. Edited February 11, 2012 by dre Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger
Moonlight Graham Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 In the short term its pretty much a breakeven scenario and I. The US runs a huge trade deficit in real goods with the US, but dumps all that money back into the US by buying treasuries. The problem is in the long term, when all that cheap chinese crap has long been dumped in landfills, China is sitting a massive pile of treasuries redeemable for US dollars. Its a wierd relationship... Picture a business just giving you your money back after each purchase, so that you could keep buying more stuff over and over again The problem is of course that the US will eventually have to pay for the real cost of all this consumption. When they buy a Chinese made DVD player for 20 bux their giddy as a pig in shit. Problem they go 10 dollars deeper in debt without even knowing it each time they do that. You think youre getting a deal but youre really just getting a deffered payment. Wow that's interesting, I didn't know that. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Guest American Woman Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) If I were Romney, I would run the ad with subtitles.China now owns US federal debt. Obama - with his stimulus package - has sold America to Asia. What's the phrase? America is pwnd. This isn't an ad for national politics and has nothing to do with Obama. It's a state ad, referring to a senator from the state of Michigan. As for China now owning US federal debt - it owns but a fraction of US debt; the largest portion of American debt is owned by - America; China owns about 8% of American debt, which hardly adds up to "ownership." Edited February 11, 2012 by American Woman Quote
WWWTT Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Too bad they didn't hire the actress from the same talent agency that Canadian politicians use. I believe that this add(you submitted) would be more correct than that first one that this thread is about.(in reference to culture and way of life) The liberal add you highlighted is done to appeal to the Indian community in Canada.And it sounds like that there are many references to/used by Indian culture. I guess you find other cultures and beliefs "funny"(and in some ways because of cultural contrast it is funny/odd) Where as the first add appeals to unfounded fears and stereotypes re-enforced by politicians and media. Clearly the woman in the first add is American from her accent,but she tries to imply she is Chinese/Korean/Vietnamese/Japanese/Thai/Indonesian/etc,etc by using odd English vocabulary structure.Much like a chep "B" Kung Fu movie from the 70's. And yes Canada does have a diverse population that thankfully is not forced to be "assimulated" WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
WWWTT Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Well said. This particular poster perfectly exemplifies the pseudo-superiority complex of a certain fringe of Canadians. I think it's a result of their immense insecurity. This is one of the ways they try to cope. Man how on freekin Earth did you come to that conclusion? Can you elaborate a little further as to how you came to this reason to "cope" with their alleged "insecurity" WWWTT Quote Maple Leaf Web is now worth $720.00! Down over $1,500 in less than one year! Total fail of the moderation on this site! That reminds me, never ask Greg to be a business partner! NEVER!
MiddleClassCentrist Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Too bad they didn't hire the actress from the same talent agency that Canadian politicians use. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzrV9ORMeZU Nothing funny or hilariously horrible about that - just "a sad reflection on Canadian politics." What you are looking at is a parody/satire. From the website "We do it for the lulz." And you are comparing it to an actual American Ad. What does that say about American politics again? Edited February 11, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
Guest American Woman Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 What you are looking at is a parody/satire. From the website "We do it for the lulz." And you are comparing it to an actual American Ad. What does that say about American politics again? Ummm. No. They post the ad for the lolz. They didn't create it. The end of the video states that the ad was "Paid for by the Federal Liberal Agency of Canada, registered agent for the Liberal Party of Canada. #600-81Metcalfe street, Ottawa, Ontario, K1P 6M8." The text accompanying the video on youtube reads: This is a crazy political ad from Canada broadcasting for the 2011 Federal Election. And it is actually for a National election, not a provincial election. So what is says is about Canadian politics. But nice try to pass it off as a parody/satire. Quote
MiddleClassCentrist Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Ummm. No. They post the ad for the lolz. They didn't create it. The end of the video states that the ad was "Paid for by the Federal Liberal Agency of Canada, registered agent for the Liberal Party of Canada. #600-81Metcalfe street, Ottawa, Ontario, K1P 6M8." The text accompanying the video on youtube reads: This is a crazy political ad from Canada broadcasting for the 2011 Federal Election. And it is actually for a National election, not a provincial election. So what is says is about Canadian politics. But nice try to pass it off as a parody/satire. Dense. Something that was being passed off as a joke. The subtitles have nothing to do with what the ad is actually saying. http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/ggf5t/how_an_attack_ad_is_done_go_liberals/ VS. An American ad that is meant to be taken seriously. Edited February 11, 2012 by MiddleClassCentrist Quote Ideology does not make good policy. Good policy comes from an analysis of options, comparison of options and selection of one option that works best in the current situation. This option is often a compromise between ideologies.
Guest American Woman Posted February 11, 2012 Report Posted February 11, 2012 Dense. Something that was being passed off as a joke. The subtitles have nothing to do with what the ad is actually saying. http://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/ggf5t/how_an_attack_ad_is_done_go_liberals/ VS. An American ad that is meant to be taken seriously. Damn. I thought Canada had finally had a political ad that actually drew some attention. But. one. more. time. It's not an "American ad," it's a MICHIGAN ad. By one candidate. Is it starting to sink in yet? And fyi, sorry to disappoint, but it wasn't taken seriously. Awww shucks, eh? Do carry on, though, I realize now that this type of thing provides entertainment for you and yours - and some of you apparently don't experience much of that in your lives; so, as a Michigander, I'm pleased that one of my candidates has provided you with some entertainment. And you're welcome. Quote
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