A funny (or sad) thing about American poltics,

[WWWTT]

I don't think he was making any assumptions about her citizenship; as an American citizen she would still be Asian, just as I am German, Swedish, and Norwegian.

I guess you hold a German,Swedish,and Norwegion passpert.

Both my parents are from Sao Miguel,Acores Portugal but I was born in Toronto.

So therefore I am Canadian.But I am from Portuguese heritage(and very proud of it too).

And just a side note-I wonder when the bot Teek(or whatever its name is) will hit this thread?

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[WWWTT]

MLW is hosted in America, uses an American forum engine, and is riddled with American content.

Even the spammers are American.

And somehow that is enough justification despite what you think about Canadian politics?

Ok buddy carry on

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[bush_cheney2004]

And somehow that is enough justification despite what you think about Canadian politics?

Ok buddy carry on

Of course! My journey into virtual Canada began long before MLW....first it was CBC Forums (now defunct), then Politics Canada, also gone. What I discovered was the neurotic world of Canada and its relationship with the United States. It is endless fun and no batteries are required.

Edited February 11, 2012 by bush_cheney2004

[Shady]

That doesn't happen very often here.

I agree. But part of that is because our senate isn't elected. So you have a lot less people campaigning. And the people that do campaign, have to rely soley on the party itself for funding. Where as members of the house and senate south of the border, raise their own money and run their own campaigns. So you get some really good ads, and some really bad ones.

[Smallc]

You're wrong p, actually. Local riding associations run their own campaigns, and you can donate just as much to the ($1100) as to the national party.

[WWWTT]

You're wrong p, actually. Local riding associations run their own campaigns, and you can donate just as much to the ($1100) as to the national party.

I think Shady does have a point here.

Aswell I believe judges and sherrifs also campaign in elections too.

Maybe American Woman or Bush_Cheney can clarify.

Way too many positions for my liking

WWWTT

[Guest American Woman]

I think Shady does have a point here.

Aswell I believe judges and sherrifs also campaign in elections too.

Maybe American Woman or Bush_Cheney can clarify.

Way too many positions for my liking

WWWTT

Sheriffs and judges are on the ballot. Good thing you aren't an American, eh?

[Guest American Woman]

I guess you hold a German,Swedish,and Norwegion passpert.

Both my parents are from Sao Miguel,Acores Portugal but I was born in Toronto.

So therefore I am Canadian.But I am from Portuguese heritage(and very proud of it too).

And just a side note-I wonder when the bot Teek(or whatever its name is) will hit this thread

I am a German/Swedish/Norwegian American, who is proud of her heritage. The fact that I am an American citizen doesn't erase my heritage. By the same token, the Asian woman, be she an American citizen or not, IS Asian.

[WWWTT]

the Asian woman, be she an American citizen or not, IS Asian.

How do you know that she is not Cree,Mickmack or Ojibway.Or of another native tribe?

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[bush_cheney2004]

Sheriffs and judges are on the ballot. Good thing you aren't an American, eh?

Yeah, so is our county soil conservation officer. Too much democracy for Canadians?!

[Guest American Woman]

How do you know that she is not Cree,Mickmack or Ojibway.Or of another native tribe?

Same reason someone would know by looking at me that I'm not Asian.

Actually, it didn't take a whole lot of detective work: Meet the Actress Who Starred In the Racist 'Debbie Spenditnow' Ad

[bush_cheney2004]

Same reason someone would know by looking at me that I'm not Asian.

Touche...how dare that American woman appear in a campaign ad!

[WWWTT]

Good thing you aren't an American, eh?

Ya ok whatever you say I guess??

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[Guest American Woman]

Touche...how dare that American woman appear in a campaign ad!

Not that I haven't been asked .....

[Guest American Woman]

Ya ok whatever you say I guess??

More like whatever you said .....

[WWWTT]

Same reason someone would know by looking at me that I'm not Asian.

Actually, it didn't take a whole lot of detective work: Meet the Actress Who Starred In the Racist 'Debbie Spenditnow' Ad

Yes yes yes good for you,you did a little homework to find out her last name(first name in Chinese culture) is Chan.

Next time I see an add that seems to prey on bias stereotypes and racist shadow fears I'll be sure to inform you to "get to the bottom of it" before I extrapulate any kind of opinion what so ever.

Thank you

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[WWWTT]

Touche...how dare that American woman appear in a campaign ad!

Oh man what are you talking about?You lost me buddy

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[bush_cheney2004]

Next time I see an add that seems to prey on bias stereotypes and racist shadow fears I'll be sure to inform you to "get to the bottom of it" before I extrapulate any kind of opinion what so ever.

Who are you kidding? Surely you have been a Canadian long enough to see campaign ads threatening "American style" this or that.

Edited February 12, 2012 by bush_cheney2004

[WWWTT]

Who are you kidding? Surely you have been a Canadian long enough to see campaign ads threatening "American style" this or that.

You know what man,I started commenting on this thread because I thought that this add was funny.

But somehow I now find myself talking about my own heritage.My own Heritage?!?!

What the?What went wrong?

Ok buddy I can clearly see that this topic has nothing left for me to contribute to so as hard as it may be for me I'm moving on.

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[bush_cheney2004]

You know what man,I started commenting on this thread because I thought that this add was funny.

It is "funny", in a biting sarcastic kind of way.

But somehow I now find myself talking about my own heritage.My own Heritage?!?!

What the?What went wrong?

Only you can prevent forest fires.

Ok buddy I can clearly see that this topic has nothing left for me to contribute to so as hard as it may be for me I'm moving on.

Fair enough, but I just wanted to point out that Canadian politics often invokes the terrible "American style" bogeyman. So why can't Hoekstra do it with China?

[August1991]

As for China now owning US federal debt - it owns but a fraction of US debt; the largest portion of American debt is owned by - America; China owns about 8% of American debt, which hardly adds up to "ownership."

8%? I'll accept your statistic, AW, without verification.

Even at 8%, the US federal government has sold America's soul. China owns you.

Your founding fathers would never have done such a thing and if they could have imagined such a possibility, they likely would have included this restriction in your Constitution.

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After World War II, the US federal government also had a large debt. Ordinary Americans owned War Bonds because they believed in America. Indeed, the National Debt was presented as a measure of confidence in the nation.

Nowadays, Paul Krugman compares the debt situation of Japan (1990s) and the US (2010s): property bubble, recession, liquidity trap, bank bailouts, stagnation, government indecision, lack of serious fiscal policy.

Krugman ignores that the US (unlike Japan) sells its debt to foreigners and that the US (unlike Japan) is a military superpower.

Because of its debt, the US must now choose between servitude, or debasing its currency. Given past history, I choose the latter - but God knows.

Edited February 12, 2012 by August1991

[bush_cheney2004]

8%? I'll accept your statistic, AW, without verification.

Even at 8%, the US federal government has sold America's soul. China owns you.

No, China owns some debt, as does Japan, Social Security, and US Fed. But no other G8 nation has more real foreign ownership of actual industrial base than does Canada.

[Guest American Woman]

8%? I'll accept your statistic, AW, without verification.

Even at 8%, the US federal government has sold America's soul. China owns you.

So if you had a corporation and you owned 68.5% of the stock and the rest was divided up among several other people - the next highest stock owner holding 8% - you would say the person owning 8% of the stock "owned" the company? Ran the company?

American has not "sold its soul." It's a myth that is constantly being perpetuated.

Your founding fathers would never have done such a thing and if they could have imagined such a possibility, they likely would have included this restriction in your Constitution.

I'm not sure how you feel you can get into the heads of our founding fathers, but this is the way the world does business in the 21st century.

And fyi, Japan owns almost the same amount of debt that China does - as China owns less than it used to.

After World War II, the US federal government also had a large debt. Ordinary Americans owned War Bonds because they believed in America. Indeed, the National Debt was presented as a measure of confidence in the nation.

Americans still own bonds. Americans still believe in America. The other nations that own our debt have confidence in the nation.

Nowadays, Paul Krugman compares the debt situation of Japan (1990s) and the US (2010s): property bubble, recession, liquidity trap, bank bailouts, stagnation, government indecision, lack of serious fiscal policy.

Krugman ignores that the US (unlike Japan) sells its debt to foreigners and that the US (unlike Japan) is a military superpower.

Because of its debt, the US must now choose between servitude, or debasing its currency. Given past history, I choose the latter - but God knows.

The U.S. will do just fine - however it chooses to handle it.

Edited February 12, 2012 by American Woman

[-TSS-]

I must admit that this thread has made me think if I am a prisoner of my own prejudices. The way I observed the ad was that a silly Asian bimbo was saying that let's throw all the money away and that's fun. Then a wise white man comes and says that let's not do that, that's just not clever.

That's the way I saw the ad. Perhaps the people who this ad was targetted towards are more broad-minded and don't see any Asian/white-thing but just a silly person and a clever person.

However, in Europe, especially in England, if you ran an ad where there is a clever person and an idiot and if the clever person was a white man you better make sure that the idiot is also a white man. Otherwise there would be an unimaginable outcry.

[Guest American Woman]

I must admit that this thread has made me think if I am a prisoner of my own prejudices. The way I observed the ad was that a silly Asian bimbo was saying that let's throw all the money away and that's fun. Then a wise white man comes and says that let's not do that, that's just not clever.

That's the way I saw the ad. Perhaps the people who this ad was targetted towards are more broad-minded and don't see any Asian/white-thing but just a silly person and a clever person.

The Asian is supposed to be a citizen of China, saying 'throw all your money and your jobs at China' - that's the accusation being made against Debbie Stabenow, that she is outsourcing our jobs and money to China - and making the Chinese happy rather than making us happy. The Chinese woman isn't a bimbo saying 'let's throw all the money away and that's fun' - she's saying keep your money and jobs coming to China.

However, in Europe, especially in England, if you ran an ad where there is a clever person and an idiot and if the clever person was a white man you better make sure that the idiot is also a white man. Otherwise there would be an unimaginable outcry.

She's not an idiot - the insult is aimed at Debbie Stabenow, the current Senator - and it's a matter of perception as to whether or not "the white man" is "clever."

Edited February 12, 2012 by American Woman