Federal Election Polls

[Keepitsimple]

308 polling now has a Conservative minority. Nothing to brag about but the tide sure is changing. As was always evident, Trudeau will have to start talking soon if he intends to reverse the fall - and then we'll finally see if he has anything of substance to offer.

[Ash74]

Harper is about to buy the middle class with a tax cut and the Ontario Liberals are about to raise taxes. Ontario will punish the Liberals again if this happens.

The thought of a Liberal Federal and Provincial scares the hell out of me.

[jbg]

I once was in favor of rep by prop but then I realized there's no way that would work, mainly due to riding's themselves. You'd either have to abolish riding's, which would beg the question who are the politicians accountable to? They'd be more accountable to their party than their constituents. Or they'd have to appoint a person who didn't win the riding as MP because they need to meet the quota based on the vote percentage, how is that democracy?

In general rep-by-prop forces a drive towards consensus among politicians (as opposed to voters) which is not consistent with democracy. The worst are the so-called "wall-to-wall" coalitions that create condominium among the politicians, typically center-right and center-left) and freeze out the peoples' views from relevance.

[jbg]

Harper is about to buy the middle class with a tax cut and the Ontario Liberals are about to raise taxes. Ontario will punish the Liberals again if this happens.

The thought of a Liberal Federal and Provincial scares the hell out of me.

Historically doesn't ON go Liberal when the PCPC or CPC are in power and PC when the Liberals are in power federally?

[Ash74]

Historically doesn't ON go Liberal when the PCPC or CPC are in power and PC when the Liberals are in power federally?

Yes and I am preying it continues.

JT and Wynne together would be an epic disaster.

[On Guard for Thee]

308 polling now has a Conservative minority. Nothing to brag about but the tide sure is changing. As was always evident, Trudeau will have to start talking soon if he intends to reverse the fall - and then we'll finally see if he has anything of substance to offer.

We all know the polls can turn on a dime. I'm interested to see how they go for Harper when the Duffy scandal really comes home to roost and he could find himself testifying in court where "let me be very clear', and then spouting a load of obvious BS just won't do.

Edited December 7, 2014 by On Guard for Thee

[Keepitsimple]

We all know the polls can turn on a dime. I'm interested to see how they go for Harper when the Duffy scandal really comes home to roost and he could find himself testifying in court where "let me be very clear', and then spouting a load of obvious BS just won't do.

In this case, the polls have not turned on a dime - there's been a slow erosion of support for Trudeau over several months as he either fails to take positions on important issues, or says things that confuse people. As for the Senate and Duffy, don't hold your breath hoping that it will help Trudeau. Firstly, the opposition has already framed it in the worst possible way - so anything that MIGHT come out at a trial would elicit a "so what" response. Secondly, Duffy's health may prevent him from ever going to court. And thirdly, there will soon be a report on all the Senator expenses - including Liberal Senators (sorry - independent Liberal Senators). I think the context will end up being the Senate as a whole - not just Duffy.

You're entitled to hope and pray that the Senate will somehow be a major thorn in Harper's re-election plans - but as the Ontario election proved - voters will ignore a myriad of scandals if they don't like the alternative......and that's why Trudeau has to prove that he's more than just a pretty face.

[Keepitsimple]

With the recent Ontario Auditor General's report garnering front page for Wynne's Liberals flushing billions upon billions down the drain, there can't help but be a significant drag on the Liberal brand - and emphasize the risk of Justin Trudeau's Liberals forming the next government. Fair or not, a substantial part of the electorate will juxtapose the Provincial incompetence onto Trudeau's Liberals. In other words, a Liberal is a Liberal. The next few polls will be very telling.

[guyser]

Fair or not, a substantial part of the electorate will juxtapose the Provincial incompetence onto Trudeau's Liberals. In other words, a Liberal is a Liberal. The next few polls will be very telling.

Forgetting history are we?

We had Bill Davis and the PC party in power in Ont, but federally we always had the Liberals in power.

And to be honest? I liked it that way. The most richest most powerful province in Canada was balanced by the two opposing. And respect flowed from that.

Now?.....sigh, Ed Broadbent was right the other day

[PIK]

Just play the pic of trudeau sitting with wynne and Levin, the former deputy education minister who is charged with making and distribution of child porn. He is also one of the people that wrote the perverted sex ed.

[ProudCanadianConservative]

I worry about the Unions backing Trudeau, this will be an attempt to merge the centre and left wing vote into one centre-left party effectively making Canada a two party state for the first time since the early 20th century.

Another possibility is even if the Conservatives win, if it's a minority the coalition threat will be immediately hanging over our heads again, and if it's a close election there's a possibility we can see a Conservative minority turned into a Coalition majority over night. That's how deep the hatred in those left of centre is.

Long term for the Conservative Party I think a Liberal minority win will help, why? For one they'll only be able to win getting most of the support from the centre, but when the NDP controls most of the minorities agenda the centre will go to the next closest option, the Conservative party. The Liberal party will be forced to stay in the centre to keep the centre and the coalition threat will die after a small amount of time seeing what a NDP/Liberal coalition would look like in a Liberal minority.

Edited December 11, 2014 by ProudCanadianConservative

[Michael Hardner]

Just play the pic of trudeau sitting with wynne and Levin, the former deputy education minister who is charged with making and distribution of child porn.

How does that reflect on them ? Do you think they knew ? Also it's unclear if there is such a picture, it's disputed.

[PIK]

I have seen the pic of all 3 of them. Great truth ad.

[BubberMiley]

perverted sex ed.

How so?

[Topaz]

Well, at least, Justin is sitting with the Premier of Ontario, that's more than the so called singing PM will do. The PM talked to Tory when he was in Toronto at the airport, so why won't he talk to SOME Premiers? Is he scared of her or is it because she a strong woman or is it her being a Liberal.? When one becomes PM, you can't pick and chose which Premiers to have meeting with. Wynn offered to go to Ottawa, nope he can't do it, the PM in Toronto, nope can't do it.

[Michael Hardner]

I have seen the pic of all 3 of them. Great truth ad.

What of it ? There's a picture of Rumsfeld actually shaking Saddam's hand too.

[BubberMiley]

What of it ? There's a picture of Rumsfeld actually shaking Saddam's hand too.

It's an obviously slimy attempt at guilt by association. People are not normally so stupid as to fall for that and such tactics usually backfire. I think Harper should hire PIK as his campaign manager.

[PIK]

When wynne shuts her mouth at how harper is screwing ONT then maybe she will get a meeting. Funny how people will not blame wynne for anything. They has destroy a great province, but since she is a liberal....................

For some reason I can't put up links, but google it. Former deputy of education charge with child porn. Now if he was a conservative ,it would still be all over the media.

[Boges]

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2014/12/11/political_winds_blowing_stephen_harpers_way_tim_harper.html

OTTAWA — The House of Commons may have provided a scenic backdrop, but for Stephen Harper, all the world — and the 905 — was a stage during the parliamentary sitting which wraps up this week.

Buffeted more by events outside the Canadian political realm than within, most of the prevailing winds were blowing the prime minister’s way.

It was a session marked by a war debate, an attack on Parliament, sexual harassment and Harper’s world travels and Ontario campaign-style stops.

But with the wind in his sails, he then rode into some tough headwinds in plummeting oil prices, frightening headlines about Canadian homes overvalued by as much as 30 per cent, a public battle with Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne, and Julian Fantino, a man whose electoral value in that key 905 belt cannot possibly overcome his liabilities in the sensitive veterans affairs portfolio.

The actual debate in the Commons was often a mere background chorus to the real stage.

By committing Canadian air power to northern Iraq for a six-month mission, Harper gained political points, particularly when weighed against the uneven performance on the same issue by Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau.

Then, in the days after that commitment, outside forces intervened in the form of a gunman who killed a young soldier at the country’s war memorial before storming the House of Commons, terrorizing all who worked there. Days earlier, another Canadian soldier had been murdered, this time in Quebec.

[BubberMiley]

For some reason I can't put up links, but google it. Former deputy of education charge with child porn. Now if he was a conservative ,it would still be all over the media.

It was all over the media when it happened. But you didn't answer my question. What was perverted about the sex education curriculum?

[overthere]

Well, at least, Justin is sitting with the Premier of Ontario, t

Well, Justin has to do something to fill the hours.

He does not have any of those timesucking pesky duties, like running a country, so meeting Wynne fills some otherwise idle time.

And hey presto, after the meeting he can list a long string of things he is going to do for Ontario.

He cannot actually do any of them, but it keeps a certain class happy.

Next up: Quebec City. Bring your shopping list!

[PIK]

I don't thinks kids up to 10 yrs old should be learning about oral and anal sex and about transgender and such. Let these kids be kids and quit trying to make them into good little sex toys for perverts.

[On Guard for Thee]

I don't thinks kids up to 10 yrs old should be learning about oral and anal sex and about transgender and such. Let these kids be kids and quit trying to make them into good little sex toys for perverts.

Let me guess, you're one of those offended that Donald Duck and Yogi Bear don't have pants on.

[overthere]

I don't thinks kids up to 10 yrs old should be learning about oral and anal sex and about transgender and such. Let these kids be kids and quit trying to make them into good little sex toys for perverts.

Education including biology is the responsibility of each province.

What does it have to do with the feds?

[PIK]

This is sickening and is not funny. I know the media has done a good job at burying this, but it goes to far.