GostHacked Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I agree. The Liberal vote is not efficient enough to capture the ridings it would need to get a majority at 39% of the vote. And in any case, I highly doubt on election day that they will hit 39% of the vote anyway. It's a problem with our system where a minority of the votes can get a majority government based on ridings. Quote
Topaz Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I just read on line in the Windsor On paper that a Tory MP was asked a question concerning a Bill, which was to do with gambling, and the MP said he didn't know much about it and so the moderator, told him and the audience what is was and the MPs said that the vote must have been on a Friday and he maybe wasn't there and many times MPs don't know what a Bills is OR in other words if the leader votes for it, u vote for it. The writer said he couldn't vote for someone who didn't know what they were voting for. Quote
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 To all the majority Liberal talk the negative impact of campaign co-chair Daniel Gagnier's resignation must be factored in. The stench of 'pigs at the trough' is now in the air. Real change apparently means replacement pigs at the trough. The "negative" impact will be that some fiscal conservatives are going to go "hey, it looks like the Liberals won't shut down the oil sands..." You still seriously believe this wasn't a tactical maneuver to cut into the fiscal conservative base of the Tories? Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 A few days ago you were still forecasting a Tory minorityThat's because I wait for consistent results before changing my position. We have to remember too that popular vote doesn't necessarily translate to seat counts. It seems like that the Liberals will win, but it's still not certain. There's a possibility for the Tories to take it still, just as there's a possibility for a Liberal majority. It's still not clear, imo. Quote
GostHacked Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I just read on line in the Windsor On paper that a Tory MP was asked a question concerning a Bill, which was to do with gambling, and the MP said he didn't know much about it and so the moderator, told him and the audience what is was and the MPs said that the vote must have been on a Friday and he maybe wasn't there and many times MPs don't know what a Bills is OR in other words if the leader votes for it, u vote for it. The writer said he couldn't vote for someone who didn't know what they were voting for. Godammit Topaz, if you are gonna spew stuff out, provide a link. It's just as bad as 'some top government official said (under anonymity) , no sources, nothing. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 It's a problem with our system where a minority of the votes can get a majority government based on ridings.You'll get no argument from me. I've been calling for electoral reform since the 90s. Quote
GostHacked Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 You'll get no argument from me. I've been calling for electoral reform since the 90s. The fact that it has not happened should be really telling to those out there who think we have a fair system. Why has that not happened? Why are we stuck with the same bull over and over again? Canadians want it fixed, the parties don't seem to have much interest in it when it does not benefit them. Quote
Spiderfish Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) I cannot be sad that the NDP are on the decline. They were too keen, as keen as Mulroney, to play dice with the separatists. The whole idea of shredding the Clarity Act honestly scared the ---- out of me, because it seems to me to be like waving a red flag in front of a raging bull. Justin clearly indicated his position when he stated that this country is better served when Quebecers are in charge and Albertans aren't. Quebec Seperatists must feel comforted by this somewhat. Divide and conquer has worked great for past Liberal Governments, I'm sure the past success of this strategy is not lost on Trudeau Jr. Edited October 15, 2015 by Spiderfish Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 The country has done better under Quebecers, including Mulroney. Quote
Smallc Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 The country has done better under Quebecers, including Mulroney. And the US has done better under white presidents. Both statements are true, but lack context. They are also in equally poor taste. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 The "negative" impact will be that some fiscal conservatives are going to go "hey, it looks like the Liberals won't shut down the oil sands..." You still seriously believe this wasn't a tactical maneuver to cut into the fiscal conservative base of the Tories? Good grief, have you no clue how this will play out on Oct. 19th? When a very senior campaign operative cannot contain himself for less than a week before cashing in after a Liberal victory, many undecided voters will recall the unbridled corruption of past Liberal gov'ts - ie. sponsorship scandal. The resignation will not prevent a Liberal victory but could prevent any majority. Same old Liberal party with a new pretty face. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
ToadBrother Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Good grief, have you no clue how this will play out on Oct. 19th? When a very senior campaign operative cannot contain himself for less than a week before cashing in after a Liberal victory, many undecided voters will recall the unbridled corruption of past Liberal gov'ts - ie. sponsorship scandal. The resignation will not prevent a Liberal victory but could prevent any majority. Same old Liberal party with a new pretty face. It will be forgotten in a couple of days. It will have no effect. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Nanos is reporting a 17 point lead for the LPC over the CPC in Ontario, as well as a tie between the LPC and NDP in Québec. This looks like it will be quite a win for the LPC at this rate. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Nanos Ontario numbers Nanos Québec numbers Quote
ReeferMadness Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Good grief, have you no clue how this will play out on Oct. 19th? When a very senior campaign operative cannot contain himself for less than a week before cashing in after a Liberal victory, many undecided voters will recall the unbridled corruption of past Liberal gov'ts - ie. sponsorship scandal. I think you're overstating the case. I wish it were different but it's commonplace for senior people in the civil service to move back and forth between government and the private sector. I'm sure that would be the case in an NDP government as well. It would have been better if the media had released the full text of the email so we could judge context. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
SpankyMcFarland Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Good grief, have you no clue how this will play out on Oct. 19th? When a very senior campaign operative cannot contain himself for less than a week before cashing in after a Liberal victory, many undecided voters will recall the unbridled corruption of past Liberal gov'ts - ie. sponsorship scandal. The resignation will not prevent a Liberal victory but could prevent any majority. Same old Liberal party with a new pretty face. Corruption will always be with us. To pretend that the outgoing crowd were clean requires a certain partiality regarding the facts. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I think you're overstating the case. I wish it were different but it's commonplace for senior people in the civil service to move back and forth between government and the private sector. I'm sure that would be the case in an NDP government as well. It would have been better if the media had released the full text of the email so we could judge context What does it say when the Liberal campaign is in full damage control? Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Shady Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 A Liberal minority is what I predicted. It seems that the Cons under Harper have pissed off enough people that it is showing in the polls. It's normal that after 9+ years, any government will find it difficult to win re-election. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 What does it say when the Liberal campaign is in full damage control? It says we're in the middle of an election and 3 other parties will be trying to paint this in the worst way possible. Again, it would be good to see the full email. Context is everything. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
dialamah Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Seems even Lynton has had enough of the Conservatives Crosby’s partner Mark Textor has launched an online campaign to distance their firm Crosby|Textor from the Conservative campaign, going as far to create a hashtag #notincanada. “Neither Crosby nor Textor are there,” Textor tweeted. “Nor staff. We don’t do bit-part politics.” Edited October 15, 2015 by dialamah Quote
Keepitsimple Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 It may sound tongue-in-cheek but I wonder if the Monday Blue Jays game will affect voter turn-out - especially among younger voters.....I really do think it will be a factor - how much so is anybody's guess. The viewing audience for the ALDS was immense. Quote Back to Basics
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Anyone who would skip out on voting to see a baseball game should be ashamed of themselves. Quote
On Guard for Thee Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Could well explain such a high voter turnout at the advance polls. Quote
cybercoma Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Nobody knew about the overlap during the advance polls. Quote
Smallc Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Very interesting interpretation by Professor Ian Lee on Charles Adler's new show on Sirius XM: https://soundcloud.com/canadatalks/charles-adler-interviews-ian-lee Edited October 15, 2015 by Smallc Quote
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