eyeball Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 As a courtesy to your family, fill out your will and wear clean underwear for a change. Why would anyone kill me for peacefully pointing a toy at them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 These were highly trained commandoes and they carried no arms except their holstered sidewarms. Instead they had plastic bullets and paintball guns. Give us all a break and at least admit there was clearly no intent to hurt the people on that ship. These were obviously highly motivated activists in a very emotionally charged situation. You'd have to be fucking idiot to think you could just repel into their midst without causing problems for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Nice apology for them. Just because someone disagrees with your worldview doesn't make them an apologist for the other side. Personally I think you know this but you're just trying to slander people because you can't/don't want to engage in actual debate. After all, you could have debated my point about global opinion not mattering to Hamas, instead you chose to try and call me a Hamas apologist. I think the world would be a better place if Hamas never existed, and the best thing the Gazans could do would be to try and get them out of power, but that doesn't mean that Israeli policies don't have a hand in creating the kind of environment where a group like Hamas can come to power. To ignore that would be like trying to ignore the fact that the treaty of Versailles had a hand in creating an environment where Hitler came to power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 These were obviously highly motivated activists in a very emotionally charged situation. You'd have to be fucking idiot to think you could just repel into their midst without causing problems for yourself. You'd have to be an idiot to think you could take several ships through a blockade without some kind of situation arising, even if you have peaceful human shields on them armed with lead pipes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 That of course is nonsense....if most people knew them for the murderous thugs they are.....would they still receive as much funding from well intentioned idiots.... What funding are you talking about? ....would Liberal MPs march under a hezbollah flag? I'm not aware of such an incident. ....would they be as emboldened and enabled as they are currently knowing they have the fasning support of the left? I think you're conflating increasing support for the Palestinian cause as increased support for Hamas, and I don't know if you can find any actual evidence of increased support for Hamas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 This is Jenin all over again, another propaganda bonus for Hamas. http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=2339 More documentation of flotilla planning violence against Israel by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik A day before the confrontation with Israel a university lecturer revealed on Hamas TV that the Gaza flotilla's commander had announced that the participants were planning to use "resistance," the Palestinian euphemism for violence, against "the Zionists." He added that the participants sought to die as Martyrs, even more than they wanted to reach Gaza. The following are the words of Dr. Abd Al-Fatah Shayyeq Naaman, lecturer in Shari'ah law at a university in Yemen, now visiting Gaza: "The [Gaza] flotilla commander said yesterday: 'We will not allow the Zionists to get near us and we will use resistance against them.' How will they wage resistance? They will resist with their fingernails. They are people who seek Martyrdom for Allah, as much as they want to reach Gaza, but the first [Martyrdom] is more desirable." [Al-Aqsa TV (Hamas), May 30, 2010] This article is a joke . . . "Documentation?" - Obviously the commander of the flotilla said no such thing - otherwise the article would quote him directly instead of going on second-hand information that apparently nobody other than this Sharia Law prof can verify. When did this guy supposidly say this? Has he been released from Israeli custody yet? If so - the international media would have been trying to interview him as soon as they got a chance - how come they didn't hear him say this? . . . This is just bunk. Next time if you don't have a reputable source just don't post it - you'd probably be the first to throw a hissy fit if someone posted an equally pathetic article from Jewwatch.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 What funding are you talking about? Various chariotible agenices in canada and around the world raise money for various things in Gaza...Hamas taxes (har!) everything so in the end, they get their % I'm not aware of such an incident. However, the Montreal event has been described as being anti-Israeli in tone, with Hezbollah flags on display, and some demonstrators chanting support for the organization, which calls for the destruction of Israel and is banned by the Canadian government.Politicians attending the Montreal rally included Liberal MP Denis Coderre, who represents a downtown Montreal riding and is a supporter of Liberal leadership contender Michael Ignatieff, as well as Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe and Parti Quebecois leader Andre Boisclair http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=1fe37eb3-0908-4dc3-99fb-c076cea69e17 http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/yourspace/mps_hezbollah.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 This thread has nothing to do with replying to the Israeli navy about the raid on the flotilla....It should read more like "Another excuse found to slam Israel and it's tactics used on those POOR POOR Palestinian SOB's.....And now they have sunk the hook deeper into those guliable enough to buy into this garbage... Most papers are listing those killed as pro-Palestinian activists, But are they just activists or something more....well most of the event event was organized and paid for by the IHH (including the purchase of 3 of the ships used in the flotilla ....who are more than just activists....in fact they are linked to some of the most wanted terrorist organizations in the world...which includes Al-Qaeda, everyone knows Al Qaeda, our nations soldiers are currently running these bastards down in Afghanistan....in fact the IHH is heavily involved in funding Hama's ....Can't be this was a relief operation "sure it was" wink wink My linkwww.terrorism-info.org.il/ So the night before the IHH hold a large party, wiping up even the mildest activist....wiping them so much that serveral of the surviving families spouses that where interviewed have quoted that thier husbands wanted nothing more than to become a martyr...one has to ask on a humanitarian mission becoming a martyr....But the IHH had something different in mind all along...it had one clear goal in mind...and it did it with the grace of a dancer...and for you guys already long hooked by these masters of the media ...well you took this ball and ran with it...in fact some of you are still running.... The IHH had calculated everything, they had all the key ingrediants ...Some radical muslims....some actual peaceniks from the west....including some jewish grandmothers...Nice touch...they also had Israel as they already knew exactly how they would react....infact they even went as far as to let them know thier intentions "to run the blockade" not only israel but they let the world know...so everyone would be watching as Israel took down the ships.... wether the block aid is legal or not....Something that should have been corrected by now, i mean it's almost 5 years now...anyways, what choice does Isreal have they are at war with Hamas everything coming and going into the country has to be searched for wpns, ammo and war materials. If they don't they might as well open the borders .....or armed them themselfs.... Canadian Navy boards ships all the time in inter national waters....they do it well armed, not with Non lethel means but rather old fashion auto matic wpns and bullets...and i can tell you this if any of those ships crew had attacked any Canadian sailor, in the fachion they attacked the Isrealis commando's there would be no doubt the same or greater death toll....and for those that have quoted they were just defending themselfs.... try it next time your out at sea, defend yourself again'st a RCMP or Naval borading party...see if you don't get a round in the forehead....Anyone with half a clue, would put thier hands up and cooperated with the boarding party....But that was not the plan was it...no it was to provoke the commandos into shooting , it was to make a few Mytyrs , it was to carry out a carfully laid out plan to stir inter national emotions....and they suceeded....and judging by the amount of hook biters in this crowd i'd say it was a home run.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) This article is a joke . . . "Documentation?" - Obviously the commander of the flotilla said no such thing - otherwise the article would quote him directly instead of going on second-hand information that apparently nobody other than this Sharia Law prof can verify. When did this guy supposidly say this? Has he been released from Israeli custody yet? If so - the international media would have been trying to interview him as soon as they got a chance - how come they didn't hear him say this? . . . This is just bunk. Next time if you don't have a reputable source just don't post it - you'd probably be the first to throw a hissy fit if someone posted an equally pathetic article from Jewwatch.org It's as reputable as anything else on here,and more accurate than the Palestinian propaganda LOL Of course, propaganda is something Hamas is learning to excel at and this floating flotilla is a great propaganda coup for terrorism & Hamas Most people are now able to see that it was so obviously provoked and a publicity set up. Edited June 3, 2010 by scriblett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) Just because someone disagrees with your worldview doesn't make them an apologist for the other side. Personally I think you know this but you're just trying to slander people because you can't/don't want to engage in actual debate. After all, you could have debated my point about global opinion not mattering to Hamas, instead you chose to try and call me a Hamas apologist. I think the world would be a better place if Hamas never existed, and the best thing the Gazans could do would be to try and get them out of power, but that doesn't mean that Israeli policies don't have a hand in creating the kind of environment where a group like Hamas can come to power. To ignore that would be like trying to ignore the fact that the treaty of Versailles had a hand in creating an environment where Hitler came to power. Whatever...keep explainin' away how Hamas and Hezbollah are like children. No, that's because Hamas and Hezbollah aren't affected by global public opinion - it doesn't matter if everyone in Canada hates them or like them, it doesn't change the situation for them locally. It's like protesting North Korea - they just don't care, so why waste your time organizing protests? To make you personally happy? Also - people don't expect the same things out of terrorist groups and militias as they do from nations that build themselves up with taglines such as "a beacon of democracy and freedom in a sea of dictatorships" ----------- TRANSLATION Mom: How can I expect them to wash their hands on their own without being told?? Yes, Mom... JBGlobe: I think the world would be a better place if Hamas never existed... Yah figure? Edited June 3, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Maybe there is a consensus that extremism in the defense of life and liberty is not quite the same as extremism born out of a religious fervor to kill every single man woman and child of the Jewish faith. Except, the flotilla raid had nothing to do with the defence of life & liberty of Israel - in fact, it HARMED Israel. That's not just me talking, that's the opinion of conservative media outlets like The Economist THE lethal mishandling of Israel’s attack on a ship carrying humanitarian supplies that was trying to break the blockade of Gaza was bound to provoke outrage—and rightly so. The circumstances of the raid are murky and may well remain that way despite an inquiry (see article). But the impression received yet again by the watching world is that Israel resorts to violence too readily. More worryingly for Israel, the episode is accelerating a slide towards its own isolation. Once admired as a plucky David facing down an array of Arab Goliaths, Israel is now seen as the clumsy bully on the block.Israel’s desire to stop the flotilla reaching Gaza was understandable, given its determination to maintain the blockade. Yet the Israelis also had a responsibility to conduct the operation safely. The campaigners knew that either way they would win. If they had got through, it would have been a triumphant breaching of the blockade. If forcibly stopped, with their cargo of medical equipment and humanitarian aid, they would be portrayed as victims—even if some, as the Israelis contend, brought clubs, knives and poles. As it was, disastrous planning by Israel’s soldiers led to a needless loss of life. For anyone who cares about Israel, this tragedy should be the starting point for deeper questions—about the blockade, about the Jewish state’s increasing loneliness and the route to peace. A policy of trying to imprison the Palestinians has left their jailer strangely besieged. The blockade of Gaza is cruel and has failed. The Gazans have suffered sorely but have not been starved into submission. Hamas has not been throttled and overthrown, as Israeli governments (and many others) have wished. Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier taken hostage, has not been freed. Weapons and missiles can still be smuggled in through tunnels from Egypt. Just as bad, from Israel’s point of view, it helps feed antipathy towards Israel, not just in the Arab and Muslim worlds, but in Europe too. Israel once had warm relations with a ring of non-Arab countries in the vicinity, including Iran and Turkey. The deterioration of Israel’s relations with Turkey, whose citizens were among the nine dead, is depriving Israel of a rare Muslim ally and mediator. It is startling how, in its bungled effort to isolate Gaza, democratic Israel has come off worse than Hamas, which used to send suicide-bombers into restaurants. Most telling of all are the stirrings of disquiet in America, Israel’s most steadfast ally. Americans are still vastly more sympathetic to the Israelis than to the Palestinians. But a growing number, especially Democrats, including many liberal Jews, are getting queasier about what they see as America’s too robotic support for Israel, especially when its government is as hawkish as Binyamin Netanyahu’s. A gap in sympathy for Israel has widened between Democrats and Republicans. Conservatives still tend to back Israel through hell and the high seas. Barack Obama is more conscious that the Palestinians’ failure to get a state is helping to spread anti-American poison across the Muslim world, making it harder for him to deal with Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan. His generals have strenuously made that point. None other than the head of Israel’s Mossad, its foreign intelligence service, declared this week that America has begun to see Israel more as a burden than an asset. That has led to the charge by hawkish American Republicans, as well as many Israelis, that Mr Obama is bent on betraying Israel. In fact, he is motivated by a harder-nosed appreciation of the pros and cons of America’s cosiness with Israel, and is thus all the keener to prod the Jewish state towards giving the Palestinians a fair deal. He has condemned the building of Jewish settlements on Palestinian territory more bluntly than his predecessors did, because he rightly thinks they make it harder to negotiate a peace deal. Mr Obama’s greater sternness towards Israel is for the general good—including Israel’s. So if you care about Israel as much as you claim you do, why are you and others on this board completely incapable of admitting that this incident is a scandal? I mean it's hard to figure out a solution to a problem if you can't even admit there is one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 (edited) JBGlobe: So if you care about Israel as much as you claim you do, why are you and others on this board completely incapable of admitting that this incident is a scandal? I mean it's hard to figure out a solution to a problem if you can't even admit there is one. It is indeed a scandal that Turkey let such a thing get off the ground and out to sea in the first place. Edited June 3, 2010 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Your right it is a scandal.....from your quote.... Israel’s desire to stop the flotilla reaching Gaza was understandable, given its determination to maintain the blockade. Yet the Israelis also had a responsibility to conduct the operation safely. The campaigners knew that either way they would win. If they had got through, it would have been a triumphant breaching of the blockade. If forcibly stopped, with their cargo of medical equipment and humanitarian aid, they would be portrayed as victims—even if some, as the Israelis contend, brought clubs, knives and poles. As it was, disastrous planning by Israel’s soldiers led to a needless loss of life. It was all planned including the loss of life it was planned by the IHH....they knew exactly how the isrealis would react.....if pushed....all they needed to do the pushing was a few radical muslims which they already had....The only problem here here is you've fallen into the same trap.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Your right it is a scandal.....from your quote.... Israel’s desire to stop the flotilla reaching Gaza was understandable, given its determination to maintain the blockade. Yet the Israelis also had a responsibility to conduct the operation safely. The campaigners knew that either way they would win. If they had got through, it would have been a triumphant breaching of the blockade. If forcibly stopped, with their cargo of medical equipment and humanitarian aid, they would be portrayed as victims—even if some, as the Israelis contend, brought clubs, knives and poles. As it was, disastrous planning by Israel’s soldiers led to a needless loss of life. It was all planned including the loss of life it was planned by the IHH....they knew exactly how the isrealis would react.....if pushed....all they needed to do the pushing was a few radical muslims which they already had....The only problem here here is you've fallen into the same trap.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 You'd have to be an idiot to think you could take several ships through a blockade without some kind of situation arising Not when that's the whole point. even if you have peaceful human shields on them armed with lead pipes. Defensive weapons compared to what their opponents had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Various chariotible agenices in canada and around the world raise money for various things in Gaza...Hamas taxes (har!) everything so in the end, they get their % Is there proof of this? Hamas doesn't get donations from Canada or the US - it's blacklisted, and rightly so. When people donate money here it goes to UN agencies and/or big international NGO's that distribute the aid themselves directly to civilians. If Hamas goes and steals food from families after it's been given to them, that's out of the agencies' hands. And if that occurs it actually proves my initial point - that Hamas doesn't care about world opinion if in fact it has a policy of stealing food from it's own starving citizens. http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=1fe37eb3-0908-4dc3-99fb-c076cea69e17 Oh, so I guess there isn't any widespread leftist support for Hamas after all then? Good, we can put that ridiculous claim to rest . . . As for this article, it isn't an article about the demonstration in question, it was a report on the reaction of several "pro-Israeli" figures like the Israeli ambassador, B'Nai Brith, and Canada's top evangelist VcVeaty to that demonstration. It doesn't even confirm in what numbers flags were present, it only states "it has been described as anti-Israeli in tone, with some Hezbollah flags present" and "it has been describe as" means - "folks like the ambassador think that . . ." Of course, when you read articles written about the demonstration itself, they make no mention of any anti-Israeli sentiment in general, or that any Hezbollah flags were present. It noted: The majority of the people at Montreal's protest were condemning Israeli attacks and defending Hezbollah rocket attacks, an attitude common to many of the anti-war protests in Montreal since the beginning of the conflict So really, your article is a story about a few hawkish neo-cons trying to conflate opposition to an Israeli military operation with support for Hezbollah. Much like many people here trying to conflate the criticism of the flotilla incident with support for Hamas. It's all just so pathetic. [quote name='M.Dancer' date='03 June 2010 - 11:50 AM' timestamp='1275578544' post='545721'http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/yourspace/mps_hezbollah.html What the MP is doing here is taking a pragmatic approach to dealing with Hezbollah - it seems as though he wants to employ a method to encourage Hezbollah to moderate itself by giving it legitimacy in the political sphere, a carrot and stick approach if you will - stick with politics and we'll deal with you, stick with militant action and we'll blacklist you. I don't agree with the strategy, but it's not as if he's Hezbollah's buddy. I don't think you really have a leg to stand on with your "the left is cozying up to Hamas and Hezbollah" and therefor "Hamas and Hezbollah care about global opinion" argument, if this is all you can come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Is there proof of this? Hamas doesn't get donations from Canada or the US - it's blacklisted, and rightly so. When people donate money here it goes to UN agencies and/or big international NGO's that distribute the aid themselves directly to civilians. If Hamas goes and steals food from families after it's been given to them, that's out of the agencies' hands. And if that occurs it actually proves my initial point - that Hamas doesn't care about world opinion if in fact it has a policy of stealing food from it's own starving citizens. A convient loophole... The you are okay with MPs adding legitimacy to pro terrorist demostrations? Because that is what they did.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCMan Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 ahahahah....you are pure comedy. I must be getting on your nerves now, I can see that from your frustration. You did make an attempt to prove yourself but I forgot to give you credit. Five minutes BEFORE boarding the ship the Israelis was firing at the ship. This has been confirmed by an Israeli MP who was on board. Of course when you get shot at you get angry and try to defend yourself. The video footage released by IDF only shows the part after the encounter, not before what happened...However the good news is someone will post those videos soon. [You will obviously response by declaring her a Hamas agent and a anti-Semitic] This is your viewpoint: Israeli ambassador compares raid to Second World War http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7796277/Gaza-flotilla-attack-Israeli-ambassador-compares-raid-to-Second-World-War.html COOKIES COOKIES COOKIES COOKIES COOKIES COOKIES COOKIES COOKIES COOKIES "“The whole idea of motivation is a trap. Forget motivation. Just do it. Exercise, lose weight, test your blood sugar, or whatever. Do it without motivation. And then, guess what? After you start doing the thing, that's when the motivation comes and makes it easy for you to keep on doing it.”" I was so impressed by your attempt to prove yourself that I put it in my signature. I am still giving you the option o answer and prove yourself to me as you once attempted and failed. "To make this fair for you, I would change the question. What is the importance of internal relations in the global political arena?” This is typical of those who don't know what they are talking about. Claim an international law was broken, then cite the wrong articles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Is there proof of this? So Gaza's government is funding its schools, bureaucracy and rocket-launchers from other sources, including fees on auto license plates, birth certificates and the like; taxes on smuggled cigarettes and other items that get through the blockade; and aid from Islamic and Arab allies. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601116&sid=aCSbmR8QCvPM&refer=africa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 ahahahah.... Please note the ordinance used and the damage sustained... Never the less, given that the ships in question were not protected as you tried to claim, but blockade runners, Israel has the right to stop, board, seize or sink... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 I am still giving you the option o answer and prove yourself to me ... I have given you plenty of opportunities for you to prove yourself...and you have...you're a laugh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 This thread has nothing to do with replying to the Israeli navy about the raid on the flotilla....It should read more like "Another excuse found to slam Israel and it's tactics used on those POOR POOR Palestinian SOB's..... That's not true. I doubt you've even read past the first page in this thread. I've posted articles from Israelis in Israel's biggest daily paper criticizing the tactics used in the incident by the IDF, I've posted articles criticizing Israel's recent hardline, isolationist strategy from conservative sources like the economist. I've even posted a great analysts of the incident from a Jewish prof at Harvard, which conveniently all you goy's have conveniently ignored. Quite frankly, you and several other posters here are complete ideologues who treat this conflict as if it was a geopolitical football game - you are completely unable to admit when Israel has made any significant mistake - something which ISRAELIS THEMSELVES ARE ABLE TO DO. And that's a key point here - how "pro-Israeli" are you and how informed are you if you're position is out of step with the majority of Israelis? If most Israelis view this incident as a debacle because of government fumbling, and you don't - than what does that say about how much you actually know about the situation in specific, or the conflict in general? If this seems harsh, so be it - I don't take kindly to folks grossly mischaracterizing my position on things, especially when I make great efforts to find balanced sources. And now they have sunk the hook deeper into those guliable enough to buy into this garbage... Most papers are listing those killed as pro-Palestinian activists, But are they just activists or something more....well most of the event event was organized and paid for by the IHH (including the purchase of 3 of the ships used in the flotilla ....who are more than just activists....in fact they are linked to some of the most wanted terrorist organizations in the world...which includes Al-Qaeda, everyone knows Al Qaeda, our nations soldiers are currently running these bastards down in Afghanistan....in fact the IHH is heavily involved in funding Hama's ....Can't be this was a relief operation "sure it was" wink winkMy linkwww.terrorism-info.org.il/ That's completely bogus. The only people who claim that IHH is involved with Al-Qaeda is the Israeli government, because they want to discredit them. There was the initial statement by the deputy foreign minister the day of the incident, now we have this article that you provided with us that's by an organization made up of former Israeli intelligence agents: The Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center opened in 2001. It is part of the Israel Intelligence Heritage & Commemoration Center (IICC) , an NGO dedicated to the memory of the fallen of the Israeli Intelligence Community I think the best evidence that this terrorism link is pure propaganda is the fact that IHH is not on any other country's blacklist, including the US. And that the group was active in the former Yugoslavia when NATO was calling the shots on humanitarian aid at the time following the conflict in Kosovo. wether the block aid is legal or not....Something that should have been corrected by now, i mean it's almost 5 years now...anyways, what choice does Isreal have they are at war with Hamas everything coming and going into the country has to be searched for wpns, ammo and war materials. Open up the border, have a UN force handle inspections, stop stalling on the peace process. If they don't they might as well open the borders .....or armed them themselfs.... Canadian Navy boards ships all the time in inter national waters....they do it well armed, not with Non lethel means but rather old fashion auto matic wpns and bullets...and i can tell you this if any of those ships crew had attacked any Canadian sailor, in the fachion they attacked the Isrealis commando's there would be no doubt the same or greater death toll....and for those that have quoted they were just defending themselfs.... Would the Canadian Navy try to drop onto the deck of a ship full of tense and emotional people one at a time from a helicopter? Or would they have tried to block/slow down the ship, disable the propeller, clear the deck with water canons if people didn't go below deck, and then board in groups over the side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCMan Posted June 3, 2010 Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 I dont have to prove my self to anyone. "- A cookie for each attempt "okay...a blockade to be legal must have a reason (to deny aid to the enemy, Hamas), it must be declared, (israel has and as published the coordinates in accordance to maritime law) it must be inforceble...What more do you yearn to know? " " cookies I have given you plenty of opportunities for you to prove yourself...and you have...you're a laugh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 It's as reputable as anything else on here, If you think an article from a propaganda website is a credible as something from the New York Times, you're off your rocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Globe Posted June 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2010 Whatever...keep explainin' away how Hamas and Hezbollah are like children. ----------- TRANSLATION Yes, Mom... Yah figure? You're trolling again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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