bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 How does what happened in Ottawa have anything to do with sexism? It's more like arsehole-ism. Its not like people didn't protest when Bush Jr. spoke in Alberta last year. He, to my knowledge, does not have a vagina. I said it had nothing to do with what happened in Ottawa...the sexism baggage already existed and just continued there, from comments about her physique to her lack of deference to males or authority. This phenom is not exclusive to Coulter, we've seen it for the likes of Rosie O'Donnell, Roseanne Barr, etc. Men largely do not face the same degree of gender enmity, regardless of their views. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
wyly Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Demonstrators should ask their parents for more money so they can find better places to live. are you denying the right to demonstrate, limit free speech???? "At no time was there any evidence of physical threat. To the extent that there were safety issues, it was because you had 600 people coming out for a talk and the organizers had absolutely no logistical plan to handle it. People annoyed like they get annoyed waiting to get into a jammed hockey game. But no 'threat' environment. there was never a threat just Coulter creating an "incident", very Nazi like, right out of Hitlers playbook... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) are you denying the right to demonstrate, limit free speech???? there was never a threat just Coulter creating an "incident", very Nazi like, right out of Hitlers playbook... Quit being a simpering bedwetter and grow a pair!!! Or are you so scared of Anne Coulter's boorish level of public discourse that you could not stand up to her? Or do you think shouting down someone,and silencing them,is a valid form of "free speech"? Edited March 24, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Shady Posted March 24, 2010 Author Report Posted March 24, 2010 ***I just heard an interesting bit of information*** Apparently the Muslim girl who asked the question of Ann Coulter on monday @ UWO, belonged to a facebook group called something like 'Destroy Israel Now.' Coincidently, she withdrew from that group yesterday, the day after the incident in question. The plot thickens. Also, who cares about her $10,000 speaking fee? Al Gore speaks for some $250,000 per speech, and every question he get needs to be vetted before the event. The hypocrisy continues! Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) ...but he still got to speak. That is the difference. Nobody prevented her from speaking but the organizers themselves. They were the ones who canceled the event. Not the university, not the police. And i've heard no reports of the protesters doing anything other than arriving in large numbers and chanting. The safety issue was in the large number of the crowd at the building, and only the "potential" for something to happen. Nobody besides the actual organizers prevented her from stepping in front of the mic. Ann has the right to free speech (though i actually dont legally know how this applies to foreigners), but Canadians also have the right to "freedom of peaceful assembly" as guaranteed in Section 2.c. of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. OTTAWA - In a brief statement Wednesday University of Ottawa President Allan Rock defended his institution and said that free expression is a core value of the school that bills itself as Canada's university."Freedom of expression is a core value that the University of Ottawa has always promoted. We have a long history of hosting contentious and controversial speakers on our campus. Last night was no exception, as people gathered here to listen to and debate Ann Coulter's opinions." Rock's statement said organizers of the speech themselves decided at 7:50 p.m. Tuesday to cancel the event and informed the university's security services on site of their decision. The statement said a crowd of about 1,000 people had "peacefully gathered at Marion Hall." "I encourage our students faculty and other members of our community to maintain our university as an open forum for diverse opinions. Ours is a safe and democratic environment for the expression of views, and we will keep it that way," Rock, who is a former federal minister of Justice in the Jean Chrétien cabinet, said in the statement. The university indicated it will make no further comment on the matter. Ottawa police were also issuing statements about the Ann Coulter affair Wednesday Ottawa police spokesperson Alain Boucher said the police did not shut down the event, but said a different venue was needed to hold the crowd of around 1,500 people. "We strongly suggested that this venue was not large enough to accommodate all the people that had attended," he said. "We had safety concerns with the sheer number of people that were there...with different views on issues." Organizers, not university cancelled Ann Coulter: U of O Edited March 24, 2010 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 ***I just heard an interesting bit of information*** Apparently the Muslim girl who asked the question of Ann Coulter on monday @ UWO, belonged to a facebook group called something like 'Destroy Israel Now.' Coincidently, she withdrew from that group yesterday, the day after the incident in question. The plot thickens. Also, who cares about her $10,000 speaking fee? Al Gore speaks for some $250,000 per speech, and every question he get needs to be vetted before the event. The hypocrisy continues! Quit ripping off Michael Coren!!!! I just watched him say that!! Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
Alta4ever Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Quit ripping off Michael Coren!!!! I just watched him say that!! What this is news to you today, it was on Charles adler yesterday. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Shady Posted March 24, 2010 Author Report Posted March 24, 2010 Quit ripping off Michael Coren!!!! I just watched him say that!! It's also on a blog. Quote
wyly Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Quit being a simpering bedwetter and grow a pair!!! Or are scared of Anne Coulter's boorish level of public discourse that you could not stand up to her? grow a pair posts someone who is afraid to stand up to the Nazi sympathizers on the from...that's sweet... what scares me is your lack of respect for the rule of law... we have laws that prevent you from saying and writing whatever bigoted racist brains can think of...we have slander and libel against to protect the individual and we have hate laws that prevent the same in regards to identifiable groups... Or do you think shouting down someone,and silencing them, is a valid form of "free speech"?when did this happen??? Coulter never made an appearance... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 grow a pair posts someone who is afraid to stand up to the Nazi sympathizers on the from...that's sweet... what scares me is your lack of respect for the rule of law... when did this happen??? Coulter never made an appearance... Zig Ziegler.... Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
wyly Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Zig Ziegler.... sorry editing out a quote doesn't absolve you from not knowing the law, ignorance is not a permissible excuse... we have laws that prevent you from saying and writing whatever bigoted racist brains can think of...we have slander and libel against to protect the individual and we have hate laws that prevent the same in regards to identifiable groups... there, your editing is fixed.... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Moonbox Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) She isn't at all absolutely disgusting. If all you do is read a sentence here and a sentence there of a larger more satirical opinion, then yes, you may interpret that as disgusting. But on a larger point, I find it pathetic that people pay money to watch Michael Moore's movies. But I would never fight against somebody's right to play or watch them. Interesting that you would bring up Michael Moore, because he is to the left what Anne Coulter is to the right -- a zealot cunning enough to persuade the stupid, but too dumb/unprincipled to have any integrity in the way they present the world to their viewers/listeners. They're both jokes. As for the right to free speech, I agree. People should let her say whatever she wants. Going rabid and frothing at the mouth because a crazy ***ch comes to down just makes YOU look stupid. The people causing these antics are probably the same people who believe everything Michael Moore says -- idiots. When enough of the local retard crew shows up to protest her it almost makes her look good. Give Anne Coulter the respect she deserves -- sneer in contempt, roll your eyes, laugh at her, and then forget about her. That's all she deserves. Edited March 24, 2010 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 ***I just heard an interesting bit of information*** Apparently the Muslim girl who asked the question of Ann Coulter on monday @ UWO, belonged to a facebook group called something like 'Destroy Israel Now.' Coincidently, she withdrew from that group yesterday, the day after the incident in question. How ironic....she couldn't legally say that in Canada! LOL!!!!!! Good thing the Americans gave her a Facebook venue to post her views. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Jack Weber Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) sorry editing out a quote doesn't absolve you from not knowing the law, ignorance is not a permissible excuse... there, your editing is fixed.... And that law is there,unfortunately,to protect mentally deficient bedwetters such as youself who cannot have their leftist sensibilities challenged... I had a few of your ilk by the tail this afternoon at your reaffirmation session(Rabble)...They could'nt hang,just like you... Edited March 24, 2010 by Jack Weber Quote The beatings will continue until morale improves!!!
wyly Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 And that law is there,unfortunately,to protect mentally deficient bedwetters such as youself who cannot have their leftist sensibilities challenged... I had a few of your ilk by the tail this afternoon at your reaffirmation session(Rabble)...They could'nt hang,just like you... law 3 nazi sympathizers 0 once again the law(and wyly ) wins Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
ironstone Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 By using the threat of violence to prevent Anne Coulter from voicing her opinions,a huge victory has been achieved for the side of political correctness and Socialists in Canada.The lefties were not content with merely having the option of NOT attendng this event,they decided that nobody else has the right to listen to her speak. Pathetic. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
waldo Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 By using the threat of violence to prevent Anne Coulter from voicing her opinions,a huge victory has been achieved for the side of political correctness and Socialists in Canada.The lefties were not content with merely having the option of NOT attendng this event,they decided that nobody else has the right to listen to her speak. Pathetic. don't buy into Dancer's shit... there was no threat of violence. The timeline speaks volumes indicating a cancellation was contemplated by organizers as early as 17:15 - a full 2 hours prior to the, ahem... manufactured mob and imaginary threat around 19:00 hours. The organizers simply saw the writing on the wall - they weren't likely to have the cozy controlled confines to allow Coulter to spew freely without possible interruption. Quote
Guest TrueMetis Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Honestly, what planet are you living on? This tour has already been a huge success from her perspective. She was virtually unknown to the Canadian mainstream. Now she's getting massive publicity, and the fact that thousands of wack jobs turned out to scream her down last night will just push up sales of her books and other junk. I'm sure she and her business manager are high-fiving each other. And I'm willing to bet she will continue to be virtually unknown. Right wing extremists call people names using unflattering words. Left wing extremists set people on fire and blow up buildings. They both do both. Or are you calling the Taliban left wing? Cite? How about the re-writing of history in Texas? If that's not censorship than what happen at U of O sure is hell isn't. Or I could go with the Muslim Censorship your always complaining about. Like the death threats because of a cartoon. Or hell prorougeing parliament seems to fit the definition of censorship. Over 20,000 Canadians served in Viet-Nam...just not in Canadian uniforms. And not as Canadians. Though I'm pretty sure that is an inflated number. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 grow a pair posts someone who is afraid to stand up to the Nazi sympathizers on the from...that's sweet... I never realized you were closing on a century in age good for you. To go against your own in the British Labour movement. Or are you too young for that, did you fight the PLO, did you go and rally against the iranian gov last year? Didn't see you on the news in Terhan, or did you pick up a rifle and join the Canadian military to fight the taliban? Or were fighting against neo nazis at a rally somewhere? Please i am interested when did you leave you secure comfortable chair that your ass has been planted in typing away BS to do these things? I doubt you've ever seen a real nazi sympathizer in you life, much less understand what one is. It has just become a demonizing label for you imbeciles to throw around to shout down your critics there is a word that describes people like you pathetic. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 don't buy into Dancer's shit... there was no threat of violence. The timeline speaks volumes indicating a cancellation was contemplated by organizers as early as 17:15 - a full 2 hours prior to the, ahem... manufactured mob and imaginary threat around 19:00 hours. The organizers simply saw the writing on the wall - they weren't likely to have the cozy controlled confines to allow Coulter to spew freely without possible interruption. Poor poor waldo....just agree with him before he has an apoplectic shock and fouls his seat... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Born Free Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 I doubt you've ever seen a real nazi sympathizer in you life, much less understand what one is. Are you an expert in such affairs? Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Don't need to be to call out someone who is full of BS. Edited March 24, 2010 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Shakeyhands Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 Poor poor waldo....just agree with him before he has an apoplectic shock and fouls his seat... Morris, have you seen any media or read anything that indicated there was an actual threat to Coulter? It's manufactured. Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Smallc Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 I think it was just a ploy, to further make a point about the 'state' of things at the UofO. Quote
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2010 Report Posted March 24, 2010 (edited) Morris, have you seen any media or read anything that indicated there was an actual threat to Coulter? It's manufactured. No i haven't to be honest. What is manufactured though I can say wioth certainty are the claims that attendees were vetted to prevent disruptions....and the event was cancelled because they feared disruptions. Which claim is false cause one must be....and probably both are given that coulter faced hecklers before and at western and easily fended them off. She had nothing to fear from hecklers. Edited March 25, 2010 by M.Dancer Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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