DogOnPorch Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Can we have Mallick instead.....I need to paint a mud fence! Oh yeah...take her too. Avi is over at Al Jazeera now, so he might be busy covering the Zionist Entity anyways. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Alta4ever Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 I think the guy meant every word he said about the Canadians military but why our military? Why not the US military. Would he say the same thing about their military needing a rest which they do and most of all, why make fun at ANY military in the world now. Does he appreciate the militaries that are in Afg. fighting along side of the US and other countries. You Tube, had over 1400 e-mails from Canadians and on the news it said over 8000 sent e-mails! Thank God not all Americans are like the people on FOX! Do you appreciate the Amercian spending on NORAD, and NATO. How about their contribution to the UN? People like you ran down Bush the American military and Americans citizens for years. Grow a spine, I can see that many people here in Canada can dish it out to the Americans but we can't take it. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
punked Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Do you appreciate the Amercian spending on NORAD, and NATO. How about their contribution to the UN? People like you ran down Bush the American military and Americans citizens for years. Grow a spine, I can see that many people here in Canada can dish it out to the Americans but we can't take it. It wasn't that guy spending on NORAD or NATO he is a chicken hawk and we can all see that. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Better check again...may I suggest the NATO and UN Charter as a good beginning. OK, I checked. It turns out that the involvement of NATO and the UN was all window dressing and politics. It also turned out that the invasion of Afghanistan was a violation of international law. The Afghan government offered to turn over bin Laden to a neutral country for trial if the US showed them the evidence. Of course the US has evidence only nobody is allowed to see it. The US had an opportunity to capitalize on international support and firmly establish establish a position of moral authority. Instead, it invaded both the country that had bin Laden and another country that was completely unrelated. In doing so it turned most of the most of the world against it. Nice work, George. Now, Afghanistan is ruled by a bunch of warlords and thugs instead of religious fanatics. And it's in worse shape than ever. Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Alta4ever Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 It wasn't that guy spending on NORAD or NATO he is a chicken hawk and we can all see that. Have you ever been told to be damn greatful for what you get? I don't really care what you see when you look at Bush, what I am saying is that Canadians seem to have given themsleves an identity of bashing Americans, one not so funny John Stewart wanna be makes a couple of disgusting coments and you people fly off the handle when the average Canadian ( not some media type) has been bashing America for years. Grow a spine. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
punked Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Have you ever been told to be damn greatful for what you get? I don't really care what you see when you look at Bush, what I am saying is that Canadians seem to have given themsleves an identity of bashing Americans, one not so funny John Stewart wanna be makes a couple of disgusting coments and you people fly off the handle when the average Canadian ( not some media type) has been bashing America for years. Grow a spine. To be fair I have already spoke to this go back. I think everyone has a right to an opinion however stuipd and the really dumb ones we should ignore not give them a podium to scream from. Either way I like America it is my second home and native land. I don't always agree with policy but that is true of Canada. This guy however is a Chicken Hawk and as such I am allowed to call him out as much as he is allowed to poke fun at this country. Speech is a two way street and that is the way I like it. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 To be fair I have already spoke to this go back. I think everyone has a right to an opinion however stuipd and the really dumb ones we should ignore not give them a podium to scream from. Either way I like America it is my second home and native land. I don't always agree with policy but that is true of Canada. This guy however is a Chicken Hawk and as such I am allowed to call him out as much as he is allowed to poke fun at this country. Speech is a two way street and that is the way I like it. Call out this jerk from fox news, I don't like what he said either. But if we are goingto talk the talk we better walk the walk. Like increasing our miltary to our Negocaited NATO obligations. Maybe have a deployable of force of more the 2500 solders, and give our miltary the respect and funding it truely deserves. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
punked Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Call out this jerk from fox news, I don't like what he said either. But if we are goingto talk the talk we better walk the walk. Like increasing our miltary to our Negocaited NATO obligations. Maybe have a deployable of force of more the 2500 solders, and give our miltary the respect and funding it truely deserves. Why? Why does our force have to increase becuase this man insulted us? This is the we are scared I am going to gym so I can beat that bully that picked on me answer? We can be proud of what we have given, we can be happy with our role. Increasing military all over the world maybe we can be the ones to set an example. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Why? Why does our force have to increase becuase this man insulted us? This is the we are scared I am going to gym so I can beat that bully that picked on me answer? We can be proud of what we have given, we can be happy with our role. Increasing military all over the world maybe we can be the ones to set an example. If you do not want Americans to hold a poor impression of our miltary then should we not at least live up to our treaty obligations? IF you were living next door to me and abusing our friendship I might just make light of you. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
punked Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 If you do not want Americans to hold a poor impression of our miltary then should we not at least live up to our treaty obligations?IF you were living next door to me and abusing our friendship I might just make light of you. Words can not describe how faulty that logic is. No matter how big our military is it will always pale to the Americans. Conservatives in America will say "Let's just invade Canada" whenever we don't agree with them no matter how large our military is. Heck North Korea has a huge Army hasn't stopped Conservatives in the US making fun of them has it? No this who they are. Your logic is piss poor. Quote
Smallc Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 one not so funny John Stewart Well that certainly says a great deal about your sense of humour. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Well that certainly says a great deal about your sense of humour. I don't think you got that in the context that it was ment. So I'll try to re word it for you, what I was trying to say that this guy is a john stewart wanna be who is not so funny. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 OK, I checked. It turns out that the involvement of NATO and the UN was all window dressing and politics. It also turned out that the invasion of Afghanistan was a violation of international law. The Afghan government offered to turn over bin Laden to a neutral country for trial if the US showed them the evidence. Of course the US has evidence only nobody is allowed to see it. Oh great....outrage over a D list host on Fox while you casually accuse Canada of violating international law, crimes against the peace, etc. , etc. The US had an opportunity to capitalize on international support and firmly establish establish a position of moral authority. Instead, it invaded both the country that had bin Laden and another country that was completely unrelated. In doing so it turned most of the most of the world against it. Nice work, George. Yes...this has been covered ad nauseam....turns out that Canada insists on being the moral authority expert. Now, Afghanistan is ruled by a bunch of warlords and thugs instead of religious fanatics. And it's in worse shape than ever. Who said it would be better? I'd be satisfied with just "different". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 So I'll try to re word it for you, what I was trying to say that this guy is a john stewart wanna be who is not so funny. Correct.....this guy still reads cue cards like a fifth grader. He slurs the lines and butchers the timing. Not Emmy material. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
waldo Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 I exist at the pleasure of our moderator....until then, I will seek every opportunity to be a pain in your ass...if only because you deserve at least that much attention, which is better than none at all. My long stated mission is to be the ugly American that you loathe, to add flesh and noise to your concocted bogeyman.I have a standard working portfolio of Canadian highlights/lowlights for doing battle with whatever issue you care to smugly present. Let's play...... crikey, OCD is a tough obstacle to overcome - I'll think about cutting you a bit more slack - maybe. Hopefully you're seeking help... I understand that cognitive therapy mixed with occasional doses of paroxetine have shown great results. Good luck. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 crikey, OCD is a tough obstacle to overcome - I'll think about cutting you a bit more slack - maybe. Hopefully you're seeking help... I understand that cognitive therapy mixed with occasional doses of paroxetine have shown great results. Good luck. Don't think too hard....no sense in straining yourself over little 'ol me. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Army Guy Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Ah, yes. Common wisdom. More common than wise, I'm afraid. Anyone in Canada who feels safer having a heavily armed, aggressive neighbor to the south should do a little bit of thinking on that. And maybe take a history course. Then enlighten me, why the Americans are so concerned over our lack of defences. Why is it they comment on our lack of preparation in most media formats, why is it they are proding us to keep a somewhat modern military underarms,....becuase they are overly aggressive and want to take over, one would think they would be the opposite. As for the history course, are you talking about the war of 1812, is that why i should be rethinking our neibors down south, please tell me i'm wrong. Who is it that NORAD is protecting us from? Who is NATO protecting us from? Your joking right, have you read any of these agreements and what they mean to Canada. maybe not....I'll try and give you the readers digest version. NORAD: Enhanced protection from direct military attack. Insight into US thinking on security matters. Valuable training and operational experience Access to US testing Facilties. NORAD monitors and tracks man made objects in space, detects validates and warns of attack again'st north americaby aircraft, missle, or space vehs, and also provides surveilance of our coast lines, and approaches. It gives Canada access to all those tools that would be required to do this type of security work without a massive cost to Canada....not only for the military but for the dozens of other depts and orgs within our security appartus. Who is it protecting us from.... Current threats to Canada.... Terrorism. Proliferation of wpns of mass destruction. Failed and failing states Foriegn esponage. Natural disasters. Crictical infrastructure Vulnerability Organized Crime. Pandemics Both NATO and NORAD assist in combating these security measures.... Try for a minute to escape your military indoctrination and think for yourself. Who is going to attack us? Why? How? It's easy for you to sit there and see your self as the superior all knowing and master of all beneath you.... Attacks come in hundrds of forms, be it physical to cyber, to chemical, etc etc ...anything that poses a threat to Canada or any of it's struture....just because you don't read about it every day in the media does not mean it does not happen... How many countries have a navy capable of launching an amphibious assault on the other side of an ocean? Well let me ask you this how can a ship full of danes, mange to land armed troops on Hans island, correct me if i'm wrong but that is Sovereign Canadain territory is it not....and if we can not keep a bunch of nordic viking ski bums out of our north in one small frigate....how could we mange to keep any nation that was determined to land a amphibous assult...to answer your question there are approx 10 or 12 nations that could land an amphibous assault....but as the danes have already shown you don't need amphibous ships to land troops and equipment.... Our artic rangers have already found evidence of Russian spec ops pers in our artic, serveral times, it was eveidence laid out for our benifit....letting us know that they can come and go as they please.... The Past is full of examples of excursions into our territory and waters, i can only assume it's not for our great beer and friendly conversation.... The last time I checked, Canadian soldiers were fighting a Canadian-funded war in a third world country at the behest of the US. Is fighting that war making us safer? Of course not. If anything, it is putting my family at increased risk of a terrorist attack. Is the war making Afghanistan a better place? Not according to the civilians over there who've lost loved ones. I can't find that anywhere, "Canadian soldiers were fighting a Canadian-funded war in a third world country at the behest of the US" . I've tried to goggle it and nothing....perhaps you can give me a link. Can't find it any where in this link either.... Afghan Not making a difference, i guess that depends on whom you talk....so which source have you talked to.... Think some intelligent, independent thoughts. Then come back and maybe I'll listen to you. I Yes, i all comes down to this does it not, sorry you'll have to wait for me to get a ladder, to climb to your lofty perch....but you did not want to debate with a person that is beneath you, you just wanted to ridicule Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
M.Dancer Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 It also turned out that the invasion of Afghanistan was a violation of international law. Of course it was....Could you perhaps: 1) Cite the relevancy 2)Show the indictments? The Afghan government offered to turn over bin Laden to a neutral country for trial if the US showed them the evidence. Of course the US has evidence only nobody is allowed to see it. My wife bought a new toaster oven. Now, Afghanistan is ruled by a bunch of warlords and thugs instead of religious fanatics. And it's in worse shape than ever. Must explain why the refugees keep returning and why elections are scheduled this year. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Army Guy Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 OK, I checked. It turns out that the involvement of NATO and the UN was all window dressing and politics. It also turned out that the invasion of Afghanistan was a violation of international law. The Afghan government offered to turn over bin Laden to a neutral country for trial if the US showed them the evidence. Of course the US has evidence only nobody is allowed to see it. Provide a link please that statres anything close to what you've just posted.... UN Security Council issued Resolution 1368, UN reaffirming the right of member nations (expressed in Article 51 of the UN Charter) to individual and collective self-defence. UN The UN Security Council issued Resolution 1373, UN Article 5 of the Treaty of Washington, which states that any attack on a NATO nation launched from outside that nation shall be interpreted as an attack on all the NATO nations. NATO Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
madmax Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 Call out this jerk from fox news, I don't like what he said either. But if we are goingto talk the talk we better walk the walk. The jerk has been called out. The talk is backed up with the walk. And you know this is true. Quote
ReeferMadness Posted March 24, 2009 Report Posted March 24, 2009 (edited) Then enlighten me, why the Americans are so concerned over our lack of defences. Why is it they comment on our lack of preparation in most media formats, why is it they are proding us to keep a somewhat modern military underarms,....becuase they are overly aggressive and want to take over, one would think they would be the opposite. Mostly, they want us to buy arms because they make so much money selling them. They're not worried we're going to become more powerful than them. As for the history course, are you talking about the war of 1812, is that why i should be rethinking our neibors down south, please tell me i'm wrong. You're mostly wrong. I was talking about history in general, not the war of 1812. Enhanced protection from direct military attack. What military attack? Who?Insight into US thinking on security matters. Well, we can't do without that, now, can we? Valuable training and operational experience Valuable for what? So we can go fight wars for them?Access to US testing Facilties. To test what?NORAD monitors and tracks man made objects in space, detects validates and warns of attack again'st north americaby aircraft, missle, or space vehs, and also provides surveilance of our coast lines, and approaches. Missiles from where? Space vehicles? You mean like aliens?Terrorism. Maybe if we just stopped attacking 3rd world countries, the terrorists would be less motivated to come here.Proliferation of wpns of mass destruction. Snort. And who is the world's leader in the development of WMD?Failed and failing states What failed states?Foriegn esponage. Oh, yeah. I see a lot of that.Natural disasters. Are you for real? The US military is going to save us from natural disasters? Maybe someone should have told them about Katrina.Crictical infrastructure Vulnerability You're copying all this from a pamphlet, aren't you.Organized Crime. Organized crime is there mostly because of drug prohibition. Drug prohibition is there mostly because of the knuckle-dragging right wing refused to address reality. Most of the knuckle-dragging right wing is in the US. And since when did the US military fight organized crime?Pandemics Great. They'll show up to shoot us so we don't die slowly.It's easy for you to sit there and see your self as the superior all knowing and master of all beneath you.... It's really not all that easy to sit here and watch trillions of dollars wasted on high tech machinery specifically built to kill people. Or all that easy to see minds poisoned to the point where people are willing to run off to foreign lands and destroy countries. All for the sake of mindless paranoia.Attacks come in hundrds of forms, be it physical to cyber, to chemical, etc etc ...anything that poses a threat to Canada or any of it's struture....just because you don't read about it every day in the media does not mean it does not happen... So let's attack them now because at some time in the future they might attack us.Well let me ask you this how can a ship full of danes, mange to land armed troops on Hans island, correct me if i'm wrong but that is Sovereign Canadain territory is it not....and if we can not keep a bunch of nordic viking ski bums out of our north in one small frigate....how could we mange to keep any nation that was determined to land a amphibous assult...to answer your question there are approx 10 or 12 nations that could land an amphibous assault....but as the danes have already shown you don't need amphibous ships to land troops and equipment.... Hans Island is a small pile of rock in the middle of nowhere. It is disputed territory, with both Canada and Denmark claiming ownership so your claim that this is Sovereign Canadain (sic) terroritory is a matter of dispute. Thankfully, Canada and Denmark have agreed to go to arbitration instead of starting a war over it. BTW, Denmark is our NATO ally. Also, AFAIK, we still have a territory dispute with the US around 54'40" Our artic rangers have already found evidence of Russian spec ops pers in our artic, serveral times, it was eveidence laid out for our benifit....letting us know that they can come and go as they please.... Then maybe we should stop fighting an American war in Afghanistan and focus on the arctic instead. I can't find that anywhere, "Canadian soldiers were fighting a Canadian-funded war in a third world country at the behest of the US" . I've tried to goggle it and nothing....perhaps you can give me a link. I"m not surprised you don't recognize it. Just keep on eating up the propaganda the military feeds you. I Yes, i all comes down to this does it not, sorry you'll have to wait for me to get a ladder, to climb to your lofty perch....but you did not want to debate with a person that is beneath you, you just wanted to ridicule What I really want is for the world to start making sense. And for that to happen, people need to start questioning what's going on and thinking for themselves. Edited March 24, 2009 by ReeferMadness Quote Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
benny Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 FOX doesn't belittle Canada in Afghanistan, FOX belittles Canada for wishing a break after Afghanistan. Quote
madmax Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 I don't think you got that in the context that it was ment.So I'll try to re word it for you, what I was trying to say that this guy is a john stewart wanna be who is not so funny. Go digging on the Tom Green Site. He dished out a big can of whoop ass to Red Eye. He was deadly serious, very angry, and there was still a trickle of humour.... roughly quoted. "Red Eye sucks, it has shitty guests, like me, and I will never go back on that show again". http://www.tomgreen.com/ Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 ...He dished out a big can of whoop ass to Red Eye. He was deadly serious, very angry, and there was still a trickle of humour.... roughly quoted."Red Eye sucks, it has shitty guests, like me, and I will never go back on that show again". "Red Eye" has always "sucked"....it is only slightly better than watching an infomercial at 3AM. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Oleg Bach Posted March 25, 2009 Report Posted March 25, 2009 "Red Eye" has always "sucked"....it is only slightly better than watching an infomercial at 3AM. CNN is an infomerical also..is it not...the most dis-trusted name in news? Some Americans just love these shows - much like the guy in the next live in work space to where I am sitting...He looked at me as I put the mountain bike against the wall and unlocked the door...He said ---"Great - looks like the biking season has come back again" - I did not know what to say to this guy - put plainly he was stunned and I forget that there are people wandering about with the IQ of a beagle.....so how many beagle heads do you have in the states ---give me an estimation. Out of the 300 so million - how many people have the brain power of microbes? Go head BC...be honest - what percentage of Americans are duller than a bag of hammers in a wet woolen bag on a cold day? Quote
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