Iran Threatens To Attack Tel Aviv...

[BC_chick]

That's pretty sexist.....excluding homosexuals are we? Jimmy Carter inked the deal...so take it up with him. Egypt and Jordan also get some sugar.

Go visit the former Osirak nuclear power pant circa 1981.

She/he...makes no difference. Israel gets to dance and Iran doesn't....not even for tips.

So you don't disagree with my analogy that your country is behaving like a delusional man being hustled by a beautiful girl... and your only rebuttal is that her enemy doesn't have a sugar-daddy as delusional as you? Now I've heard it all.

As for Iran not having "sugar-daddies"... Iran's ugly face looks a lot prettier sitting on top of all that oil.

While you go on with your delusions about your one-sided hustle, err I mean "special" relationship, Iran is giving plenty of oil to your economic enemies. Russia and China may not overtly jump into war to protect Iran... but you can pretty much bet that in this fight to control the world energy resources, they are not going to sit back and watch america take over the second largest oil reserves in the world.

Even if doing so covertly... ie, blocking UN resolutions, providing arms, buying oil and continuing doing business.

[bush_cheney2004]

So you don't disagree with my analogy that your country is behaving like a delusional man being hustled by a beautiful girl... and your only rebuttal is that her enemy doesn't have a sugar-daddy as delusional as you? Now I've heard it all.

I think your analogy is superficial and naive at best. Maybe you don't know about real sugar daddies in BC.

As for Iran not having "sugar-daddies"... Iran's ugly face looks a lot prettier sitting on top of all that oil.

Then Iran should have no difficulty escaping existing sanctions and war. So what's the problem?

While you go on with your delusions about your one-sided hustle, err I mean "special" relationship, Iran is giving plenty of oil to your economic enemies. Russia and China may not overtly jump into war to protect Iran... but you can pretty much bet that in this fight to control the world energy resources, they are not going to sit back and watch america take over the second largest oil reserves in the world.

Yes, we are all very impressed with the Russian and Chinese actions to stop the American adventures in Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Dubai, Qatar, Oman, and Afghanistan.

Even if doing so covertly... ie, blocking UN resolutions, providing arms, buying oil and continuing doing business.

See above....the world yawned.

[BC_chick]

Yes, we are all very impressed with the Russian and Chinese actions to stop the American adventures in Iraq, Jordan,

Why hasn't iran been attacked already...?

[bush_cheney2004]

Why hasn't iran been attacked already...?

Iran has been attacked.....politically....economically.....psychologically...and even militarily. The Americans are still working on Iran's neighbors, but Israel has some spare time.

[BC_chick]

Iran has been attacked.....politically....economically.....psychologically...and even militarily. The Americans are still working on Iran's neighbors, but Israel has some spare time.

Point was - if China wasn't of any concern, Iran would've been attacked already. IOW, whether you like to admit it or not, Iran does have some economically-based relationships as well. Oh you didn't hear that Iran's biggest trading partner is no longer Germany, but China? Or that china built Iran an oil-tanker? Or that Iran's multi-billion dollar oil business is being done in Yen or Euro? Or that all of Iran's investors in its energy-sector are Asian - led by China?

America is the past, Asia is the future.... as much as it hurts to come to grips with that little tidbit, the sooner you do and step up your game, the better. PNAC was a great dream, but alas, it didn't come true.

Stomping on the ground and milking the last of your relevancy will do nothing to help the situation.

Edited July 13, 2008 by BC_chick

[bush_cheney2004]

Point was - if China wasn't of any concern, Iran would've been attacked already. IOW, whether you like to admit it or not, Iran does have some economically-based relationships as well. Oh you didn't hear that Iran's biggest trading partner is no longer Germany, but China? Or that china built Iran an oil-tanker? Or that Iran's multi-billion dollar oil business is being done in Yen or Euro? Or that all of Iran's investors in its energy-sector are Asian - led by China?

Yen...that would be Japan...build many more Maru than China. Please tell us something we don't already know. Israel is not impressed by China, which can't even project power to Taiwan.

America is the past, Asia is the future.... as much as it hurts to come to grips with that little tidbit, the sooner you do and step up your game, the better. PNAC was a great dream, but alas, it didn't come true.

Asia is quickly copying America's past....see China's strategy for automobiles and superhighways. The gods are pleased. I went to China in the 90's to help show them the evil Yankee ways.

Stomping on the ground and milking the last of your relevancy will do nothing to help the situation.

Yes....you and another member keep insisting on America's looming irrelevancy. Don't hold your breath waiting for the end.

Edited July 13, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[BC_chick]

Yen...that would be Japan...build many more Maru than China. Please tell us something we don't already know.

Asia is quickly copying America's past....see China's strategy for automobiles and superhighways. The gods are pleased. I went to China in the 90's to help show them the evil Yankee ways.

Yes....you and another member keep insisting on America's looming irrelevancy. Don't hold your breath waiting for the end.

The end of American supremacy has already arrived my friend. The end of relevancy, well, I think watching Iran thumb its nose at you and you not being able to do a heck of lot about it is pretty much the first taste of the much more to come irrelevancy that awaits you....

Oh wait, maybe Condoleeza Rice can give them some more saber-rattling rhetoric and stern words... that'll show them you're still relevant.

[bush_cheney2004]

The end of American supremacy has already arrived my friend. The end of relevancy, well, I think watching Iran thumb its nose at you and you not being able to do a heck of lot about it is pretty much the first taste of the much more to come irrelevancy that awaits you....

Right...and that is why Iran is as nervous as a nun in a whorehouse. Iraq "thumbed its nose" as well for a long time. Your empire has already fallen.

Oh wait, maybe Condoleeza Rice can give them some more saber-rattling rhetoric and stern words... that'll show them you're still relevant.

No, it will be Barack Obama...he wants to kiss Iran's ass right before we bomb it. Speaking of irrelevant, what will Canada do? Wait...it doesn't matter!

Edited July 13, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[BC_chick]

Right...and that is why Iran is as nervous as a nun in a whorehouse. Iraq "thumbed its nose" as well for a long time. Your empire has already fallen.

No, it will be Barack Obama...he wants to kiss Iran's ass right before we bomb them. Speaking of irrelevant, what will Canada do?

Oh! You're not as predictable as I thought - for sure I thought the Canada-bashing would come in the post previous to this one. I almost said so too in my response, but I deleted my comment to see how many more posts from you it'll take before you bring Canada up as a rebuttal.

Canada may be irrelevant. Furthermore, Canada certainly depends on America economically so anything that hurts you is nothing to be happy about for us. That's why it's so sad to see the neighbour on whom we depend, squander any chance of being a team-player in the inevitably new world that awaits us instead of putting its head in the sand and denying that they are no longer the key player in this century. It'll hurt us all, and for nothing but pride.

As for Iran meeting the same fate as Iraq, America simply doesn't have the resources for another war. America 2008 is very different than America 2003. Iran may be nervous, but ultimately, it knows that as much as America would want to attack it, it can't.

[bush_cheney2004]

Oh! You're not as predictable as I thought - for sure I thought the Canada-bashing would come in the post previous to this one. I almost said so too in my response, but I deleted my comment to see how many more posts from you it'll take before you bring Canada up as a rebuttal.

I'm always happy to return the America bashing favor.

Canada may be irrelevant. Furthermore, Canada certainly depends on America economically so anything that hurts you is nothing to be happy about for us. That's why it's so sad to see the neighbour on whom we depend, squander any chance of being a team-player in the inevitably new world that awaits us instead of putting its head in the sand and denying that they are no longer the key player in this century. It'll hurt us all, and for nothing but pride.

On this matter, Canada is (not may be) irrelevant. Next time be more careful about which ass to which you attach economic lips. America will keep doing that which has made it successful to date....it's been a pretty good run so far.

As for Iran meeting the same fate as Iraq, America simply doesn't have the resources for another war. America 2008 is very different than America 2003. Iran may be nervous, but ultimately, it knows that as much as America would want to attack it, it can't.

Even if you were correct (you aren't), Israel can certainly attack Iran. Christ, even Saddam was able to attack Iran. The Americans can project military power around the world, and have repeatedly done so. Don't confuse invasion with war....even PM Chretien "bravely" knew the difference when he bombed Serbia!

Edited July 13, 2008 by bush_cheney2004

[White Doors]

What a load of codswallop. Who had nukes first? It wasn't Iran. It wasn't Iraq. Who was it it?

I saw a great movie the other day: Thirteen Days. It was about the Cuban Missle Crisis.

What it showed was Jack and Robert Kennedy (and I am not a great Kennedy fan) trying to figure out what the hell the Russians were up to while the US Chiefs of Staff were hollering for the US to just nuke everybody. Where would we be right now if those morons had gotten their way?

Try to think with more than your pineal eye, Wild Bill.

Try not getting your foreign policy ideas from Hollywood movies.

lol

(although it does explain alot!)

hahahaha

[White Doors]

If, and that's a big if, the threats against Israel continue even after she cleans up her own act, then she ok, you are protecting an innocent ally.

But you know what they say, don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Kinda the same thing here - immoral acts beget more immoral acts. Nothing surprising there.

They pulled out of Gaza completely. So by your logic there should be no missles launched from the gaza strip at Israeli kindergartens?

Perhaps the problems there are a little more in depth than you care to think about?

[White Doors]

but you can pretty much bet that in this fight to control the world energy resources, they are not going to sit back and watch america take over the second largest oil reserves in the world.

China and Russia are going to protect Alberta from invasion??

Edited July 14, 2008 by White Doors

[Jerry J. Fortin]

Alberta was invaded they day we discovered oil here. Get a grip!

[Argus]

As for Iran meeting the same fate as Iraq, America simply doesn't have the resources for another war. America 2008 is very different than America 2003. Iran may be nervous, but ultimately, it knows that as much as America would want to attack it, it can't.

If it set its collective mind to it America has the resources to do pretty much anything it wants to do. Its troop level in Iraq has never even approached half the number they had in Vietnam for so long, and it has a third again more people now.

[White Doors]

Alberta was invaded they day we discovered oil here. Get a grip!

yes, but it was 'invaded' by Newfoundland.

[GostHacked]

Oh! You're not as predictable as I thought - for sure I thought the Canada-bashing would come in the post previous to this one. I almost said so too in my response, but I deleted my comment to see how many more posts from you it'll take before you bring Canada up as a rebuttal.

LOLs, seems like I am not the only one that noticed the trend.

Let's say this special person wanted to run for pres, I figure the slogan would look something like this ........... "BC2004, blaming Canada for everything and taking responsibility for nothing."

[bush_cheney2004]

LOLs, seems like I am not the only one that noticed the trend.

It's about time you figured this out. But then again, you had difficulty remembering the name of a single Canadian petroleum firm, but plenty of others. Not to worry....I am here to fill in the selective amnesia for smug Canucks.

[DogOnPorch]

If it set its collective mind to it America has the resources to do pretty much anything it wants to do. Its troop level in Iraq has never even approached half the number they had in Vietnam for so long, and it has a third again more people now.

Also...some folks forget that the ratio between combat troops vs REMFs (look it up) is quite high. I imagine that it has gotten less than in Viet-nam in some ways while worse in others. Never the less...Viet-nam is a good example. At peek troop strength of some 500,000+ there were only something like 50,000 actual combat troops hunting VC on patrol, etc. The rest were Hawkeyes, Trappers and Radar O'Reilys.

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Without discipline the Army would just be a bunch of guys wearing the same color clothing.

---Major Frank Brurns: M*A*S*H 4077th

Edited July 14, 2008 by DogOnPorch

[GostHacked]

It's about time you figured this out. But then again, you had difficulty remembering the name of a single Canadian petroleum firm, but plenty of others. Not to worry....I am here to fill in the selective amnesia for smug Canucks.

[smug] Nah, I figured it out quite some time ago. [/smug]

Since we have an expert on Canada here, (ahem.. that'd be you there BC2004) , I really don't need to say anything on Canada, because we all have you!!!. We know with 100% predictability, when someone bashes the US, you have what it takes to say 'BLAME CANADA'. No doubt you are the expert here. So from now on, I shall rely on your replies to tell me what Canada is doing. Then we can have no doubts on it.

[bush_cheney2004]

Since we have an expert on Canada here, (ahem.. that'd be you there BC2004) , I really don't need to say anything on Canada, because we all have you!!!. We know with 100% predictability, when someone bashes the US, you have what it takes to say 'BLAME CANADA'.

That is probably best for you anyway....afraid to own up to the reality beyond weak affirmations of Canadian complicity....and even then only as hapless victims of the evil Americans. That's where I come in, to make sure that your nostrils are filled with the stink of shit that you only seem to smell in someone else's litter box.

[Black Dog]

Argus:

Because they are wackos. They have been wackos since the Shah left, and there is no sign that they are about to abandon their wackiness.

And what has Iran actually done in the past 25 years to indicate they are irrational actors? On what basis is the assumption being made that the Iranian regime will suddenly cast aside the obsession with self-preservation that has characterized its actions for the past decades in favour of nuclear suicide (the inevitable consequence of a nuclear strike against Israel)?

[blueblood]

Argus:

And what has Iran actually done in the past 25 years to indicate they are irrational actors? On what basis is the assumption being made that the Iranian regime will suddenly cast aside the obsession with self-preservation that has characterized its actions for the past decades in favour of nuclear suicide (the inevitable consequence of a nuclear strike against Israel)?

The threats against isreal, their abysmal human rights record, their meddling in affairs along with the Americans.

I'll say the basis that has been why the U.S. and former Soviet Union meddle in affairs concerning who they think are nutjobs; it was the king nutjob of World War II, Hitler. They tried to appease him and it look where that went. The U.S. and former USSR weren't going to make that same mistake twice. Iran is no exception, potential nutjob who is a legitimate threat; squash.

The other basis is insane people do insane things, refer to WWII.

[M.Dancer]

Argus:

And what has Iran actually done in the past 25 years to indicate they are irrational actors? On what basis is the assumption being made that the Iranian regime will suddenly cast aside the obsession with self-preservation that has characterized its actions for the past decades in favour of nuclear suicide (the inevitable consequence of a nuclear strike against Israel)?

Well, aside from the various purges of secular intellectuals as well as their stalinistic suicidal purge of thier officer corps which lead toi the stalemate on thier western front with Saddam's Iraq, there has been the flafrant violation of all the sacred tenents of diplomact and internmational law, the flagrant disregard for due process and human rights....the illegal acts of highs seas terrorism during the tanker wars...state spondsor of nterrorism.....etc etc

When international leaders get itchey about a nation like Iran, it isn't as if they picked Iaran at random, Iran has earned it's repuitation of dangerous lemminghood.

[M.Dancer]

I don't even understand why the west grant military aid to Israel while it continues internationally illegal activity, including occupying and building settlements in the West Bank.

If, and that's a big if, the threats against Israel continue even after she cleans up her own act, then she ok, you are protecting an innocent ally.

But you know what they say, don't do the crime if you can't do the time. Kinda the same thing here - immoral acts beget more immoral acts. Nothing surprising there.

I don't underdstand what this post has to don with Iran and threats by iran to rain done death on ciovilian targets and to engage in acts of agressio against non belligerants....?