Army Guy

Why do we need to do business with China? are you saying we can not replace that portion of our trade....it represents less than 4 % BS, we have good product and I'm sure we can find a replacement..... So where is the red line here, or is there a red line at all, do we start a trade deal with Columbia, for drugs, It is a huge industry, how about Iran, Russia, why have we cut those guys off....If we are dropping all our morals and values for trade and income where is the red line...

Why only 2 options....what about irrelevant, extreme left, This is your third option...crazy town....

WTF....This can't be real, but it does explain a lot about those that voted for the NDP....but it is a huge red flag and why we still need mental institutions in this country...

Funny how the left heads exploded after some one planted a NAZI flag during the convoy protest....and some how waving a Palestinian terrorist flag during a Canadian political party event is nothing to get worked up about...mean while the new leader is a jew, and he thinks this is alright....Yup some one left the door open down at the short bus factory and they escaped...

Sure it's forecasted, kind of like the liberal budget.....and we are suppose to believe that for the first time in 30 years DND managed to spend it's entire budget plus 10 bil in extra funding....None of the numbers add up....

That's not the point at all...If you have to lie and deceive taxpayers to get there what is the point...Or i should just be happy money is being spent on the military, sit down and STFU..... That guy your talking about did not include every other department in the government....CG, Emergency preparedness, artic highways and civilian infra structure, RCMP, the list is long but if the liberals can bend a rule they will....hence why we are so close to that magic number now...Because we adding in everything including the sink....So YA ,I am in favor of spending , but i also value the truth....i think the major of Canadians value the truth, don't you ?.... And in saying that there is not many leftist Canadians that really care that we spend 2 % on our military....the left really don't care what the final number is, which means they would be just as happy with 1.75 % or zero.... of GDP....the bloated numbers are for trumps sake not Canadians...I think once we start going above 2 % that's when the left is going to start to crow, that money has to come from some place and most likely going to come from a social program or two. Are you suggesting that you don't care about all the lies that's being told...I think most liberals don't care about any of the lies and deceit that this government brings to the table...

1.....my source document is dated October 2025....it is 5 months old or 7 months into the fiscal year and at that time DND still had .40 % to spend....which equates to billions of dollars , and in Aug of 2025 Government dumps 9 bil more into the pot...Historically DND can not spend their normal budget in time let alone an additional 9 bil...... when major purchases take years to complete... 2. Where do you think NATO gets its figures from....they get it from reports sent to them from the liberal government...The PBO office says those figures are not correct...not then and not now...because of faulty or misleading numbers sent from the liberal party....It is the PBO's office to monitor and verify all government transactions, they are the link between government and the people to ensure we the tax payers are getting what we paid for.....So ya those numbers come from Carneys government , NATO publishes them in their report.... How does NATO confirm anything do they have a person in the finance office or do they rely on what info the government sends them....Your making a claim you have no proof of....And your right nothing to argue over period... Historically for the last decade DND has returned almost 2 bil of unspent dollars back to the federal government, which is normally put towards a future major expenditure....So it is not spent....but will be spent in the future...to get to our 2 % of GDP that money needs to be "spent"...before it can be counted....now add to that an additional 9 bil dollars, it would be impossible for them to spend that in that point in time of the fiscal budget.... one of the easiest ways to spend money quickly is dump it into pay and benefits which does not even add up to half that 9 bil... Just a note on these contracts the entire price of contracts are not normally PAID OUT before receipt of all goods, or in increments for construction OR LENGHTY MANUFACTURE PROCESSES....So i doubt very much those numbers you have quoted would even count towards this end years budget. Like the F-35 we pay as we receive an airplane....it is not practice to pay out out front...normally payment of goods must be received before end year or it counts as coming out of next years budget....unless you can prove other wise...Flyer has done these transaction millions of times....I'm surprised he has not a said anything , I'm pretty sure the liberal government has to follow the same rules for purchasing as anyone else, it is after all them that make the rules. SO they can make all the announcements they want, it does not change the rules of government purchasing....You can not count announcements as money spent towards your % of GDP...

Sorry we on the right have already had a meeting and we all voted on the all the things we consider to be the bane of society....basically anyone on the left, in fact after the vote we actually considered rounding up the left and moving them to BC, then building a wall. but most preferred Baffin island instead, as there is still good people in BC.... Don't worry we are including all the rich lefties as well we would not want to be call racist, or show a preference for one group or another....

In what way is he different, he does not own a sock collection, nor does he have the hair....and to be truthful my sons pet gopher was better qualified than Justin....He certainly has a long list of previous jobs and qualifications....And not everyone agrees with his performance in those jobs...You may think he is cooperative, but still we have no trade deal with the US, and i don't think CUSMA is going to turn out the way we all think it is going to...and he really has not done much, except travel.... And the truth of the matter partisanship is a two edged sword....and your as blinded by Carney as any other liberal on this forum..

Hard to kill the NDP, they are killing themselves, i mean might as well be the rhino party. Ands as much as i disliked Jagmit Sing he was light years ahead of all these turds in a bucket, what does amaze me is Canadians actually vote for these clowns with their new direction and plans for Canada....I mean one guy does not even own a suit and tie...WTF...

It does matter a lot it equates to hundreds of millions of dollars, which could go to training , courses, recruitment etc,.....And while i do truly apricate all the extra dollars, Canadians want to be told the truth, we are tired of being told lies, Carney was suppose to be a much different guy " he is not Justin"....this is not the first lie he has told.....Now i know that may not be a character trait you aspire to, but it is one i hold on to.

Flyer you do know this is a discussion forum, dropping your little red arrows does not add to the discussion, it kind of says your to lazy to reply...which I'm wondering why your here if not to discuss things...Or maybe you can't answer the questions i asked, no one knows because the red arrow says nothing...So are you to lazy, or can not comprehend the question...

Yes it was forecasted....Based on what was actually spent to date, meaning as of OCT 2025 info...or do you think those numbers where just pulled out of thin air...and by some miracle you want us to believe that in less than 5 months they spent bils,that the PBO was not aware off... that is a stretch, first off the entire budget at the start of the year does not equate to 2 % of GDP, so where did the additional money come from....even the additional 9 bil does not take us to the 2 % mark....the next question would be what did they spend it on, what signed contracts have their been that would add up to the remaining bils ....... because in order to count it must be spent before march 31....forecasting or announcing your going to spend money does not count. IT must be spent , contract signed, before march 31 for it to count as spent... What it does show is there is a huge disconnect between official Liberal government numbers, and what the PBO office has...

Was Chretien a liberal?, the author of the decade of darkness....ya he did a lot for the military....Which liberal are you talking about....and what did they do for the military.....was it Justin who told our vets you are asking for more than we can give...YA he did a lot for the military....Carney has promised a lot of things....and if he comes through then you can brag, but right now liberals over all have not treated the military well except when looking for cuts ...

How so, they are not armed, or equipped to protect the country...nor is it being planed to be armed, or equipped, they do not play a role in defending the country, they can't even do a fisheries patrol all that has happened to date is they budget is folded into the militaries...to boast our % of GDP in NATO spending ... it is a political move that accomplishes nothing....

The Liberal government has constantly added to what is counted towards the 2 % of GDP goal, going back a full decade, PBO office which has accounts for all government spending differs from how DND accounts it contributions towards NATO spending. PBO office calculates our % of GDP at only 1.58... Recent NATO Contribution Analysis (2025–2026) The PBO currently tracks DND's progress toward two primary NATO targets: This projection contradicted the federal government's own forecast of 1.76% for the same period. The PBO attributed this discrepancy to what it labeled an "erroneous" GDP forecast by the government, which assumed a four-year economic recession that significantly underestimated Canada's economic growthA recent analysis by the Parliamentary Budget Officer (PBO) in October 2025 projected that Canada’s defence spending would reach 1.58% of GDP by 2029-30. Parliamentary Budget Officer +1 Current Liberal government reporting has expanded in the last decade to include the following. When reporting to NATO, the Department of National Defence (DND) includes expenditures that meet the specific NATO definition of "defence expenditure," which often results in a higher reported amount than what is strictly found in DND’s own internal budget. In March 2026, it was reported that Canada met the 2% GDP spending benchmark for 2025 with a total investment of just over $63 billion. HillNotes +2 Core DND Budget Inclusions The majority (approximately 80%) of reported spending comes directly from DND and covers these primary categories: RBC Wealth Management +1 Personnel Costs: Salaries and benefits for members of the Canadian Armed Forces (CAF). Operations and Maintenance: Funding for military operations, missions (e.g., Operation REASSURANCE), and equipment sustainment. Major Equipment (Capital): Purchases of new assets such as the River-class destroyers, F-35 fighters, and P-8A Poseidon aircraft. Infrastructure: Construction and maintenance of military bases and facilities. Research and Development (R&D): Costs for defence-related R&D projects, even if they do not result in final production. www.nato.int +5 Eligible Other Government Department (OGD) Costs To meet NATO's reporting standards, Canada includes "elements other than pure DND spending" from other federal entities: HillNotes +1 Veterans Affairs Canada: Direct payments and pensions to retired CAF members. Global Affairs Canada: Contributions to NATO’s military and civil budgets, and UN peacekeeping mission costs. Canadian Coast Guard: Activities specifically related to national defence. Communications Security Establishment (CSE): Cyber defence and signals intelligence. Shared Services Canada: IT support provided directly to DND and the CAF. Military Aid: Financial and military assistance provided to allies or partners, such as military aid to Ukraine. Parliamentary Budget Officer +6 Direct NATO Contributions DND specifically earmarks funds for direct NATO-managed budgets: Canada.ca +1 Military Budget: Supports international military staff and NATO's command structure. Security Investment Program (NSIP): Funds capital costs for communications and infrastructure like airfields. Common Funding: Canada’s agreed-upon share (roughly 6.7%) of NATO’s collective operating costs. Canada.ca +2 RCMP portions of their budget are also included... Relation to NATO Spending Targets While they are separate budgets, some portions of RCMP spending (specifically related to international or national security operations) can sometimes be included in Canada's reporting of total defence expenditures to meet NATO's 2% of GDP target. However, this is a reporting categorization for international comparisons and does not mean the RCMP is part of the DND's internal organizational budget I think the government has shown that it will grab at any opportunity to increase spending when there is no actual increase to the Military over all budget...but rather what is reported to NATO. SO while liberals are celebrating the news of hitting our 2 % GDP commitment, when it was them that had signed on to a commitment to reach this goal in 2014....to meet 2 % by 2024 ....to which they got close 1.42 % of GDP in 2024...and now PBO office is saying thats not true....that we are way short at 1.58 % of GDP...Who do we believe....PBO office, or a NATO report that relies on Liberal figures...

Someone always profits from... Sounds like a double standard, we appreciate the US as the worlds policemen, but slag them every chance we have...and if we accept that we are a military support mechanism to the US agenda, we should get on with the job, we should have been first in line to volunteer to open the strait instead of being wishy washy about the whole thing...not the first time he has not been decisive... What values are those ? he is here now and he is support the nation in the process. Did you really think that Trump was going to do anything else wise....He knows we need them more than they need us.. and they have had enough of Canada poking the bear for a few voters points....now the bear is pissed off what exactly will that bring to the table...for Canada. it brings nothing....except contempt ..So yes now they are telling us , we are going to continue tariffs including many items covered un der Cusma and we will have to l give up most of the cartel tariffs in doing so...Come this summer they will rip up Cusma and Canada will be stuck , but at least we are headstrong, kind of hard to eat headstrong... You can hope Carney mentioned it , but i'm pretty sure that is to late.... He has put Canada and Canadians in the position we find ourselves right now.. So ya ask any conservative if they will stop picking on one of the liberals crown jewels....not likely...and not just justin, but also the voters that put him there...Sorry...it is not going to happen. There is lots i can do, by constantly reminding you that liberal voters are really gullible....

Like you said the war is escalating, up until now most of Irans oil production and delivery systems have been left alone, i think you might see these hit in the future....Iran is still exporting 65 % of their oil production, and at this new world price they are still benefiting from these sales... Thats my point , we have always been quick to judge any US actions, in fact we have made it a national sport of sorts, it is easy to sit in the generals chair and judge anyone...while we sit here enjoying all these social programs, while Americans don't have a choice lacking those same programs, being the world policemen means constantly equipping a huge military.. That's another problem with Canadians we are very head strong, and refuse to listen to anything except what has been approved by the liberal party...Poilievre was very respectful of Carney, and did no finger pointing during the conversation....something Carney needs to learn...Your right the message is to powerful for you to hear anyways...you might even be a convert... What we want is free trade without any tariffs... Well thanks for the permission, i mean you guys talk the Sh1t about him for 10 plus years....and now that he is the worst PM ever, and has given the liberals a black eye suddenly you don't want to hear any of it...that's not how this works.. you need to step up and own that stuff...even the bad stuff...

I'm sure that these ships will be paired with other more modern ships....The important piece here is opening up the straits to allow trade to flow, and to participate in a global crises trying to earn back respect for our country and military, which is not that great at this time. I've seen the result of NOT having modern equipment , and the ones that pay for those poor choices are very young men and women...

Yes history will judge him....but lets not pretend Iran needed to get their face pushed in, they been asking for it for decades now....lets concentrate on that.... Well one day when Canada grows a pair and becomes the worlds policemen, then we to can do what ever is in the best interest of the US....Until then if Canada is not going to uphold to those laws and conventions we should pull our signature out of those agencies...Well he learned that from Carney and his stance on Iran...he changed his mind 4 times in less than a week...must be something in the water. Watch the podcast and find out what the plan is...Carney has already given Canadians lots to talk about very little of it is good....and we are NOT going to forget Justin for at least another 10 years...and we are going to rub that in liberal voters faces for about the same time... Ya nice resume, same team , same faces , same id!ots from Justin period...just a new captain....who was an advisor to Justin for years....

Well if the left haven't made thoise policies the right would not have anything to complain about.... The left are not that bright Crack hoe....you've proven that with your posts over and over again... Men do not belong in women's bathrooms or change rooms period ...it is really that simple, why do you think we have separate washrooms in the first place...would you want some man taking a crap in the next stall from you....how about a man changing in the locker room or sharing a shower...Canadians are not ready for that kind of freedom yet...maybe in Europe...but not here... I can tell you this Karen, if a man tried to enter the women's bathroom when my wife ,daughter or grand daughter were in there there would be a scene, and if they persisted it would get physical, that is no doubt...you can call me what ever you want....but we are talking about my family.....and i would do anything to protect them form any perceived threat... Off her meds again

Well anything could happen, hell could freeze over as well. I'm sure his staff briefed him on every different scenario, including the weighing of all the options of doing nothing.... US airforce bombed Iraq for 5 weeks before sending in ground forces....still have a few weeks to go... Yes it is a war zone, if it wasn't there would be no problem with global trade...To be clear it is a war ship capable of defending itself against missile attacks...But in war murphy law rules so anything is possible...they are or will open the strait by force if necessary...The why to open global trade is the answer...to up hold inter national law, the Un charters, and not to be held hostage by a terrorist nation.....if we are not going to uphold those laws and polices that govern every nation why have them, drop out of the UN, dismiss inter national law. And yet here we are, to be able to understand why things are broken and how to fix them one must be aware of things done in the past, for somehow reason we as a nation can not learn anything from past mistakes...even with hindsight on our side...Liberals and liberal voters have a long road ahead of them if they think Justin is just going to fade into the history books so there is that.....and i can understand once, maybe you were fooled twice, but three times, thats on each voter.... You voted liberal because you always vote liberal, don't start making excuses now...And no, what needs to happen is repair our relationship with our largest trading partner first, then you can fly all over the global...signing MOU's which don't translate into trade, but rather maybe future deals...I remember the past as a reminder that liberal voters are very gullible, as they are today....

Lets take a look at the last couple of weeks, Canadians were not sure what the official response was, Carney changed it 3 or 4 times...Carney has a long way to go before he gets my vote, but anything is possible... Yes how did he screw up ? I don't care why it started, Iran started this back in the late 80's...and has been looking to be shot in the face ever since....i have no issue with paying higher gas prices if it means getting rid of the world largest sponsor of terrorism... Nobody is asking anyone to go to war, what is being asked is to open up the straight and ensure global trade is safe for everyone... YA sure, and liberal policies to date had nothing to do with that....this is not the first time we have dealt with trump this is trump 2.0....and back in trump 1.0 we had said we should diversify, said the same thing the last times China put on crippling tariffs, we should diversify, and today what are we saying we should diversify.....see a trend here...Canada talks a good game but really sucks at taking action... Canada will never get over Justin, the damage is way to great... I think if their was a deal to be had it would have been made already, Mexico is way ahead in their talks....lets remember you voted for a guy that said he could get things done...so far all he has done is fly the crap out of his PM aircraft.. Well the left has given the Canadians a lot of things to be p!ssed off about. Take a good look at how bad the country is right now, but you can't your nose blind to the whole deal, in your world everything is running good, liquor store is open, hockey is still on, and weed is legal.....

It is not amusing to those that serve or have served, being told to make do with a ball of twine and some gun tape, and while our members perform miracles with what they do have, Canadians have know of these facts for decades and refuse to stand up of these same people that guard our nation day and night 365 days a year...And because the people have not stood up , our government has developed that same Cavalier attitude....The only times Canadians get behind our military members and demands action....is when enough have past through the highway of hero's.... So ya not amusing, but rather sad...or disgusting from my point of view... Our government gives the word and those ships will be filled with volunteers, not because they are want to go to war, but because the men and women on the right and left of them have stuck up there hands...to serve our country, to test their training, to make sure their comrades come back to their families...because they understand honor, loyalty, integrity, duty...and a sh!t ton more....something a lot of Canadians do not have... The Halifax Frigate is a war ship designed for high intensity warfare....their crew have been trained to a razors edge, and they can handle any mission thrown at them including open up the straight...It has Ship to shore missiles, anti air defense missiles, 57 mm main gun, torps , and x4 .50 cal HMG....and i'm sure the navy will try to put on some other weapons before going... as for the mine sweepers, once again they have trained for this job for years, finding mines and patrolling is what they do.... and if asked to go the ship will be ready and full of sailors....it is who they are....And they know the risks, and if they become fodder as you say...that's on the Canadian people...and the liberal government... Armament 2 × quad Mk 141 canisters for 8 × RGM-84 Harpoon block II missiles AShM/LAM 2 × 8-cell Mk 48 vertical launch system (VLS) firing 16 × RIM-162 Evolved Sea Sparrow block II SAM/SSM 1 × Bofors 57 mm (2.2 in) Mk 3 gun 1 × Phalanx CIWS (Mk 15 Mod 21 (Block 1B)) 4 × 12.7 mm (0.50 in) M2HQ Mini Typhoon remote weapon stations 2 × twin 324 mm (12.8 in) Mk 32 torpedo tubes for 24 × Honeywell Mk 46 Mod 5 torpedoes

Well i guess your man Carney has already agreed to assist militarily to open up the straight...My question is how does that change your opinion about the conflict or Carney ? will he start bleeding his loyal fans...Yes we are in the middle east but not involved in the conflict Canadians there are on much different mission which happens to be located where the Americans have a huge presence. How has he screwed up ? and there has been a request from trump asking for assistance from NATO...To open the straight, not to get involved in the air campaign....It is our problem...One shutting off the straight is against maritime law and inter national law plus there are many UN agreements on this very topic....if no one is going to step up and uphold those laws might as well withdrawal from all those conventions... Yes that is all it is assumptions, there is no guarantees in life, as one has nothing to do with the other, But it would send a clear message that we are their closets allied and we will always have their backs....i know the left have a problem with words like honor, loyalty, integrity, and many more. The world today is bat sh!t crazy and we need all the allied we can get.... despite what Carneys message is.. We also have tariffs in place lots of them i already posted a list of them....I get it the left is very sensitive when it comes to words....but then again that's all they were, was just words ....It's not like Canadians have not said things in the past about Americans...or invaded the white house for the second time...Words.... Instead of blaming trump for looking after the US, your sore because he is not fixing Canada, he has not given you something, sorry sir that blame falls on our government and their lack of action, yes sir that falls on the past liberal government and if you voted for that government you can point at yourself, welcome to Canada ....Thank Justin for all of it... and Carney is keeping a lot of Justin policies and programs so pretty soon we can point to him as well... We don't have an agreement because there is no compromising to be had...we are stuck with old cartels that have the government held over a hole and won't let go....that and we still have a lot of other tariffs on US goods, that could be taken off....