madmax

Did you forget the CPC are the government and have been since 2006? So far the results of the Harper fiscal regime are underwhelming.

The Harper CPC are on their way. The surpluses are wasted. Their is a big difference between fiscal managers, and governments like Devine & Rae & Trudeau and Mulroney.

This is a Tory Problem. This is my Money. This is not nonsense. The Tories always talk big, but never walk the walk. It is a the waste of tax payers money. The CPC are fiscal hypocrits.

I prefer opposition to chicken nodding. Even the best of minds miss something when they agree on the first discussion. What I don't like is that a throne speech is a vote of confidence. As for the LPC. They will continue to follow the Dion policy of supporting Harper until they elect a Leader, then who knows. The next LPC leader could well support all of the CPC policies out of shared beliefs as opposed to being afraid.

What we do know is that Mr. Harper's Policies have led to a "deficit before the storm". Mr. Harper was not leading from the Centre. He had been obsessed with parlimentary control and brinksmanship. He had been focused on electoral gamemanship. He had been using every tactic to gain a majority. He paid for polls vs govern responsibly. Polls are not the centre of anything. He was unable to succeed in his goa for a majority. He choose to have a costly election and hide his deficit spending ways. He ignored the economy his entire first term. Dion gave Mr. Harper all the rope he needed to succeed in the first term, and the Harper Led CPC chose a deficit first system of governance. If Alberta can send people to a conference for $6,000 and the Harper Conservatives spend $60,000 for the same conference, then the government is not leading the country through tough economic times. It is leading the pigs to the trough. I have yet to understand the fiscal wisdom of heading into a recession with a self inflicted deficit. Is this the Leadership you admire?

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They sure mess me up though

I don't believe there are any "lies" in the throne speech. The campaign is completely different. He lied with the best of them.

That is why I don't believe the throne speech should be confidence vote.

Ditto, lets hope someone is reading your post.

Huge Surplusses existed. Whether you consider them good or bad. The CPC have nothing to show for their actions. I support services for taxes. It is why we pay them. I expect responsible government. I have seen neither from this one.... yet I am patient. So is a government who has gone into deficit before engaging a recession. This is not the vision of Preston Manning who put federal governments inline. Much the same as Tommy Douglas did in Sask during his terms. Well you appear to agree with Mr. Rae and his Liberal Keysenian economics. Perhaps his biggest problem being a New Democrat was that he was a Liberal, and now is with the party he shares an history with. Other NDP governments have been the most apt at avoiding a deficit. Those figures don't include Tommy Douglas 5 terms, Eliminating the Debt, balancing the budget and bringing in Public Health Care. PC governments have proven a distant 2nd in running balanced budgets. And worse was Mulroney..... The CPC haven't done anything other then waste money rapidly. So as much as I may agree with you as to the value of surplus budgets, the CPC have taken those surplus and blown them. It is that simple. They are gone. I do not believe in running deficits, and I am not a believer that Keynesian Economic theories have any positive effect in open global economies.

If you took the time to read the article you would notice that it covers a 4 year period. Perhaps you need to listen to this leftist group below before you blow off the Harper Conservatives Waste of Taxpayers money. The CPC spent 10 times more then the Alberta PC. And you wonder how they broke the bank before even hitting a recession. That is worse then current Liberal Bob Rae, and heading in the direction of Grant Devine. Hypocrites Well thats good to know.

I just fell off my chair. Blueblood, you have too much time on your hands for such a naive comment. I don't know when the Imagine song will start playing or SuperTramps Dreamer. I can only think of Cocaine becoming legal in 20 years....or so. Nope I can't see it happening..... At least you think outside the box.

There is only one way to know that. I hope you like or liked horses.

If the government does not to accept responsibility for their fiscal ineptness, then we could be headed for more fiscal mismanagement. If they accept that they created the deficit in the 1st place, and now have to deal with a reduction in revenues from tax breaks, past and present as well as a shrinking economy, perhaps they may find the foresight to deal with what lies ahead. It sure as heck isn't the tax payers who are to blame. I have heard enough nonsense, and that takes the cake. You are correct that the worse things get the more people will expect from governments that have less to give. Unfortuneately the CPC already gave away the store, and the cupboards are bare.

Yup.

10 times worse

Yes, I do know politicians are capable of making decisions. Just as they are capable of lying, avoiding and behaving worse then most parents children. The fact that the CPC requisitioned more polls then any party in history and failed to excercise commons sense is a tribute to their inability to be fiscally responsible. Coulda sworn the people were punishing a tired and corrupt party. Most people couldn't give a rats ass about the GST cut. Wow! Save 2cents, hardly an enticing prospect which while voter friendly doesn't win voters over. That is a diversion from the real reasons for the removal of the Martin Government. No and no again. People didn't like Dion more then Harper, which is difficult to do. Dion was an egghead and trying to hatch his legacy before he laid an egg. People were smart enough to recognize that the Carbon Tax would have NO effect on the environment. It was rejected wholly by his own party. People did choose a Government who stated they were not going to run a DEFICIT. Yes they voted for a lying government who were facing a deficit because of their fiscal incompetence, and now it will be worse because of them. They have blown the rainy day funds. As for the Arts, you missed that Harpers Seat count went up, not down. Get me a violin. I expect to hear nonsense like this on these forums. The LPC inherited huge deficits from the Previous Conservative Regime. The economy did not recover for sometime. The CPC inherited HUGE surpluses and stated that they had no intention of maintaining huge surpluses. The CPC have done this damage in just over 2 years. Infact if you choose to say that the economy was in trouble in 2006, there isn't any sense of urgency from the CPC. They sat on their hands and claimed up until October 2008 that all is well, no deficits. The CPC was tone deaf. Didn't care. I know business groups that had meetings in Ottawa, and came back furious with regards to the disconnect of the CPC ministers. It cost alot of business security in Ontario. The message was clear then as it was in 2008. Get out of Ontario. Don't do business here we don't care. Harper Lied. He lied to the public a few short weeks ago. Flaherty lied. They mislead, spin and will run deficits.

Cutting Taxes and overspending is the responsibility of the government. The Conservative government. It is no one elses. These are there programs, their choices, and it isn't people who were "complaining" that put this country into deficit. It was the Conservative Government. This has nothing to do with a nanny state. That is a copout. That is the answer for whiners who cannot explain how a government blew a surplus Prior to the economic downturn. You have a terrible memory if you cannot grasp that the Liberals put together a succession of surplusses. The Liberals failed to support the services of the state, the reason you pay taxes in the first place, but they didn't run deficits. The Conservatives don't have a good answer for this other then incompentence. Services, deficits and surplus is a matter of choice. Harper was to busy ignoring the finances, and playing games. Don't going blaming the general public who elected the Harper Conservatives, for the incompetence of the Prime Minister, his finance Minister and his cabinet. It wasn't the General Public who lied in the General Election, it was the Conservatives who said their would be no deficits with their last ELECT ME breath. Blaming the public is cowardly.

If one takes this poll as an indicator of where we are today (I don't), it is interesting to see where the change is occuring. The numbers are nearly identical across the Provinces since the election, except in Western Canada. The CPC numbers are down from 52% to 38% in the west. The LCP numbers are up from 16% to 27% in the west. The GP numbers are up from 8 to 13% in the west. THese are the only numbers that are impacting the poll data. This would indicate to me that the CPC voter in October has parked their vote with the LPC and GP until further notice. Having seen the LPC has limited traction in Western Canada, like the GP, parking your vote with these parties is non threatening. The NDP appears to have a non wavering base with subtle increase across the country. I wouldn't place to much into the % increase, as these figures are within the margins of error. I always wonder why they bother showing the BQ numbers across Canada as a %? The only number that matters is there Quebec figure which is a good indicator of the BQs strength. When the public sees BQ numbers at 9% or 10%, they don't know if they are strong or weak. Only if they go to the website will they find out the strength or weakness of the BQ.

That's right. If we enforce our laws, make certain all users pay up, and keep people named Wild Bill off the roads, then life is good for the road warrior.

The Conservatives sold off assests in Ontario for a song to balance the budget when he was a Provincial MPP. For more fun on this, read the Provincial Forums and the 407 highway.

Bush was piss poor President whos success is to receive two terms and prove to the American Public and the world that his 2nd term could be worst then the first. He Succeeded. I would say that this puts him higher then Bill Clinton.

Elizabeth May made no mistakes And was going to win Members of the Green Party killed the campaign not Elizabeth May. And Quebec Wing let Elizabeth Down, She supported the Quebec Parti Vert by not running a candidate in Dions Riding. THere was also a heavy media bias against the GP. And Media Bias in Canada is stronger against the GP Canada then Media Bias in the US.... It was Mays telegenic performance at whistle stop tours that kept those numbers close to 7%. May claims that it was a mistake to suspend general election planning, but that isn't her fault. And Elizabeth May makes it clear.... Thankfully She pulled it off despite this. Elizabeth May identifies the problem I think of Jack Layton taking on Dennis Mills in 2004, when I read the below quote. Or Kim Campbell in 1993. I think David Lewis lost his seat in the 1970s? The reality is the Green Party is a party without a seat and has never won a seat, including the leader. That the leader did very poorly in her riding is understandable, based upon the media bias against the Green Party. Elizabeth May says it best herself. Thank Heavens.

Ok. What is this about? Help me understand.