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Lol - and it's only been two weeks! Hahahaha - kinda like he's competing with Trump as to how much he can accomplish in his first 100 days! I noticed, he's mimicking Trump with signing orders and showing his signature! Camaraderie between the two? We're getting there - to being sold out - as in, being annexed. 😁

I don't think this time, any NDP crossers would have to worry about angering their party. NDP voters had seen the result. And they know the next election will be down to 2 Parties. Which would an NDP voter rather vote for if it's down to Conservatives vs Liberals? It's like the PP of Bernier. Some conservatives I've talked to prefer the PP.....BUT, they know it will not win. So, they voted Conservatives/

As I've asked: why not? Carney doesn't have to promise them anything. It's not like as if it never happened before. Lise St-Denis (born April 18, 1940) is a former Canadian politician. She was elected to the House of Commons of Canada in the 2011 election and served a single term.[1] She was elected in the electoral district of Saint-Maurice—Champlain as a member of the New Democratic Party, but crossed the floor to the Liberal Party of Canada on January 10, 2012, saying in French to explain her move: "Voters voted for Jack Layton. Jack Layton is dead."[2][3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lise_St-Denis Now - it's the NDP Party that's actually dead! It would depend on the MP who wants to advance his/her political career to make the move.....isn't it?

The NDP is all but dead right now. And if it's another MAGA who succeeds Trump - which is highly likely - Canada will be focused on only 2 parties to duke it out. NDPs are not all hard socialists. They can blend with the liberals.

It is highly likely. With the NDP in tatters (which takes years to recover - if they can).........what are the chances that a couple of them could actually cross the floor? They can see their political future going down with the NDP, and if they're not hard socialists...........:shrug: Why not? Majority is better than having to deal with the others. It makes it easy forCcarney to do what he wants without anyone in the way. And.....the opportunity to become majority is there.

I'm asking a hypothetical question. If he only needs 2........you think he can't get two to walk across the floor? Remember Belinda Stronach? Here's a source: NDP interim leader says Liberals putting out 'feelers' for MPs to cross the floor https://ca.news.yahoo.com/ndp-interim-leader-says-liberals-011608737.html

What do you say? Yes? Or, no? He only needs 2. I think he will.

The wait, is deadly. I feel for businesses that are going under............for people losing jobs...... It is possible there are negotiations happening underway behind the scenes. We might be surprised by an announcement..........who knows? Keep tab of Trump whenever he speaks. He could mention something about it.

Let's face it: what else can he do but smile, and try to look amuse. It's no secret how Trump harrassed Trudeau about the 51st state! 😁 And everyone knew what happened to Zelenski. The world was watching!

TRUMP TEASES MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT And here is the bombshell announcement! The deal US made with UK! The deal, which the UK government has said will save “thousands of jobs”, will see car export tariffs slashed from 27.5 per cent to 10 per cent, for a quota of 100,000 UK cars. This, the government said, is almost the total the UK exported last year. Mr Trump’s 25 per cent tariffs on steel will be axed entirely, while a levy on ethanol – which is used to produce beer – coming into the UK from the US has been removed entirely. In addition to this, the two governments have negotiated new reciprocal market access on beef, giving UK farmers a tariff free quota of 13,000 metric tonnes of meat. Downing Street has also said that the US has agreed to give the UK “preferential treatment” in any further tariffs imposed as part of Section 232 investigations - a process where the US government determines if certain imports threaten US national security. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/us-uk-trade-deal-beef-explained-trump-starmer-b2747429.html Will Trump give us the same deal...........................or, was he telling Carney, "you'd wish?"

Since I nowhere sound like I'm afraid .....................is that you? If you're a Christian, you got nothing to be afraid of.

That's why Trump likes, and wanted Carney to win. He probably knows how Carney deals - of course, his advisers would have researched Carney. Carney - being a CEO, would have records, a reputation among colleagues. The conglomerates, big corporations move in a small circle. Poilievre on the other hand, is a wild card. All they know about Poilievre, is what they see.

Many immigrants have conservative values. Religion-based. Visible immigrants went to Trump for conservative reasons. It's highly likely we're going to see the same here.

I agree with you. It hurts seeing our leader looking helpless. But, sometimes.......... you gotta push down hard and swallow the pride. I haven't seen how Starmer was with Trump when they met, but he might've navigated very carefully too. I'd watch it sometime. They just signed a deal. He scrapped the entire tariffs on their steel! I wonder if we get similar deal in a couple of months? A month after his so-called Liberation Day tariffs began to bite, Britain has now achieved a series of significant carve outs from sweeping tariffs on UK carmakers, steelworks and farmers. What carve-outs has the UK secured? The deal, which the UK government has said will save “thousands of jobs”, will see car export tariffs slashed from 27.5 per cent to 10 per cent, for a quota of 100,000 UK cars. This, the government said, is almost the total the UK exported last year. Mr Trump’s 25 per cent tariffs on steel will be axed entirely, while a levy on ethanol – which is used to produce beer – coming into the UK from the US has been removed entirely. In addition to this, the two governments have negotiated new reciprocal market access on beef, giving UK farmers a tariff free quota of 13,000 metric tonnes of meat. Downing Street has also said that the US has agreed to give the UK “preferential treatment” in any further tariffs imposed as part of Section 232 investigations - a process where the US government determines if certain imports threaten US national security. The government has failed to secure carve outs for tariffs on pharmaceuticals and the remaining 10 per cent reciprocal tariffs imposed on Britain. The government said “work will continue” on those. There have also been no concessions secured for the film and TV industry, after Mr Trump threatened to apply a 100 per cent levy on films made outside America, which the PM has been warned would devastate film and TV production in the UK. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/us-uk-trade-deal-beef-explained-trump-starmer-b2747429.html

I did say if Carney wins, we'll become the 51st State. They both speak and understand the same language. He'll make some deals with Carney. Carney will make some deals with him. After all, I don't think Trump actually plan to bring us so low on our knees. But those deals won't be the kind of deals we're hoping for. Carney isn't stupid. He'll know when it is game over for us. It's the idea of China and Canada dealing with each other, and Canada leading to far-left, is what's behind Trump's resolve to acquire Canada as a state. And add our land mass and resources to that! Thus Trump sees it as a beautiful "marriage" - MERGER, in the corporate language. I don't think Trump will budge from tariffs. He'll apply the economic pressure. That's how he'll get his way with us. That's why he talked about, "time. we'll see. takes 2 to tango. never say never." We'll feel the pain from taxes. Trump knows that. He's already started dangling the carrot of much lower taxes to Canadians! Two or three years from now - how will Canadians feel about becoming the 51st State? Will we be open to discussions?