Hal 9000

But, clearly you can see how people who aren't necessarily against the gays are against these "exhibitionist" parades...right?

Haiti called and wants to get in on this topic.

Alright! If you two mo's are too blind to see that this situation has taken a dangerous turn, then so be it!

There is a big difference between that and suggesting that the presidents son should be locked up with pedophiles or that ICE is a terrorist group. This has gone from being called racist and bigot to Nazi and Terrorist. Yeah, go ahead and justify it, but the left is looking for a flashpoint and it will come. You people are like the kid on the playground who constantly instigates, then cries foul when they get beaten up. People like Deniro, Deutch, sex and the city woman , Fonda...bunch of sick f's - all of them...and all who support that crap are just as bad.

This shit is way out of hand! People shouldn't be accosted when they're eating dinner or refused service for their political beliefs. The left is getting closer and closer to a violent confrontation - or worse. I hate to use the word "unhinged" because it has been used to often, but wow, all this Nazi talk and resist movement is just getting too much. I blame the media and people like DeNiro....Donnie Deutch - WTF. You see people making excuses and even encouraging this behaviour. Meryl Streep said (in reference to Trump) that language like that gives permission. She was right, but she should be addressing the radical leftists. The democrats and media are freaking out and manipulating unhinged people - this is not a good situation at all. Usually talking politics is fun, but I can't help to be worried at the rate in which the Trump Derangement Syndrone has/is ramping up.

So, what is the alternative?

I recall them chanting "All we are saying is...give peas a chance"

I think it'll be a Spanish victory.

I always wondered what Obama won it for...Huh!

I'd better get out on my Harley while I still can.

Let's just skip the formalities and give school teachers 20 votes each.

If women want to join in and fight in combat, I'm all for it. They can learn what men have done for thousands of years to provide them with safety and security. I also believe in conscription. I would suggest that they separate them into their own units - for obvious reasons.

I think you stumped her with that doozy.

Whew, when I read the title I thought something bad happened to Omni.

In what way is the photo fake?

Well, God did sorta pull the nuke on Sodom and Ghommorah. Sort of a reset, i guess.

Not at a higher rate as a percentage of that demographic, I've stated that at least twice now. I'm saying that it's in much higher numbers. The obvious fact is; there is way more straight males than gay, therefore the amount of straight males that commit suicide is drastically higher.

Anyway, I feel that we're derailing here. So, that'll be for another thread.

Attempt suicide of 5-8 times, but succeed just 50% more. Your presumption is exactly what stat takers want you to believe. That means that either some have multiple attempts or they're not truthful (either side) in their interviews - because really, it is based on conversations with living kids. So, by the numbers, straight young men are committing suicide in alarming numbers - higher numbers than any demographic. BTW, I never claimed that they're committing suicide at the same rate.

Ok, so I'll take that as a yes, gays and straights commit suicide for similar reasons. OK, with that being equal and knowing that the male gay population is more or less 5%, that would indicate a significant amount of males committing suicide for very similar reasons as gays? Wouldn't it be fair to have a school program that addresses everybody as equals? But no, we have studies and programs for the gays and couldn't give a shit about the straight boys - "suck it up fellas, no one cares". And we wonder why these kids grab a gun and start shooting up a school.

Do you think that there is any chance that gay men/boys possibly commit suicide for the very same reasons as straight males? Or is it always tied to homosexuality?

No, the question was whether school programs reduce suicide rates in gays. I didn't read the entire report, but everything I did read was theory around "attempted suicide". If there is proof, I'm willing to have a look, but I feel that I was on a wild goose chase with your article.

I've googled a fair bit actually. I can't find anything except theory that say's programs in schools prevents anything at all. I can see that people claim "attempted suicide" is down, but that's still just opinion. I'm willing to listen to facts, just haven't seen any. What I did find interesting is that gay males commit suicide at a 50% rate more than straight males. Considering the ratio of gays vs. straights this is very troubling for straight males - but who cares about them, right? Also, straight males commit suicide at a rate much higher than straight and gay women combined and men both straight and gay combined consist of over 80% of suicides. This is all staggering. What can we do about preventing male suicide?

How do we know that?

I think we can all agree that there are good cases and arguments for assisted suicide, degenerative diseases, terminal cancer, dementia, extreme old age, Omni etc. But this is one of those situation where the "slippery slope" argument about "pain" really comes into play. Other countries have let it get so bad that nurses are doing the procedure, Insurance companies are encouraging it to save money, people are doing it for depression, people are getting rid of their parents for the money etc etc.