Hal 9000

OK, well, taking away semi-autos, is taking away guns. That's just a non-starter, and a policy killer. However, I'd love to see what happens when the police go into downtown Chicago and start taking away their "semi-autos".

You have said you want to take away semi-autos, haven't you?

My post on the preceeding page should tell you that I'm all for background checks, in fact, I recommended gun safety courses too. My problem is that you people seem will to take guns away from ordinary people based on the fact that inner city gang bangers cant stop plugging each other. That's why I say, there are at least 2 different issues to deal with here and until you people recognize that, you wont effectivey solve any of them.

But you wouldn't stop there, would you?

I said the fundamentals are the same, not the details. The only real difference to the argument is "who's constitutional rights are we willing to take away"? My kids were both born before 7 months, were they considered "cells".

You have to admit WCR, the fundamentals are pretty much the same.

No, he really is embarrassing himself - and Canada. It's sad when the country he's visiting is embarrassed to be seem with him, not to mention getting ripped by European press. What started out as cute and fun, seems now to recognized as an illness, a desperate cry for celebrity.

How would you do that? And, whose guns exactly? Would you go into downtown Chicago and start confiscating guns?

Nobody ever said that, sheesh, you're.

You're nuts! I might be the only one who has actually put forth realistic ideas to help the situation, including restrictions.

Thinking about lobbying, how about that douche of a sheriff lobbying against the NRA (Dana Loesch) on CNN while knowing that his officers hid behind their cars until the shooting stopped - he should be fired immediately. How about some accountability from those bastards?

I'd like to know where i'm wrong. You see, you've asked me for solutions...or at least ideas, but you're not interested in ideas, only blame - misguided blame. Why did the school ask to be notified if he had a back-pack, yet refused to report their obvious concerns to police? Why did the police show up to his house 39 times (mostly for violent reports) and say/do nothing? Why did the FBI do nothing after several direct complaints? Why did the family "not know" anything? There is a lot of blame, but no, it's gotta be the NRA's fault.

None of that is up to them. That's all Congress and the President...and Trump has already stated that he'd go against the NRA on those issues. And, it's not really a partisan issue because Obama didn't have the votes even when he had a super majority. Anyway, it makes no sense to assume that somehow the NRA can do anything about school shootings. You can wring your hands all you want, but they have nothing to do with it. P.S - We have all those same weapons in Canada, so it's not really so much about guns as it is about something else in their culture.

Of course you, like every lefty has no real ideas other than to assign blame. Being held accountable is quite different than preventing another incident. How is the NRA responsible for the latest incident anyway? Would you hold Planned Parenthood responsible for all the abortions that happen in the USA?

I gave my thoughts, now it's your turn.

Ok, I don't see an issue with school shootings in Canada, but for the US, I would certainly support the innitiative to have armed security in schools. Second, I would have the schools notify the police when they expel or notice a specific threat from a student (something that didn't happen in the recent incident), I would consider metal detectors and if certain teachers or school staff wanted to have a firearm in a safe in their classroom, I would encourage them to have special training and allow that to happen. We pay extra for teachers who carry first aid certificates, why not for having a defense ticket. I would raise the age requirement for purchasing firearms. I would establish male councellors who actually council students and can identify future problems. How about you?

Are you talking about general gun violence or school shootings, because I've given suggestions for both.

Well, lets hear your suggestions on how to reduce either gun violence or school shootings.

Just to be clear, I have no qualms with more regulations. I think that something like Canada, where you take a course and get an approved background for a gun before you even consider walking into a store to purchase one is a good start. In fact, I cant believe that the US and NRA hasn't considered this as a revenue stream for the NRA. You get called racist for even suggesting "stop and frisk", yet shutting down legal gun owners is almost expected. My issue is that the solutions from the left seem to punish the law abiding citizen but not the outlaw.

Thanks for the lesson, I'm sure Omni should read it more than I, however the question posed was basically, what does the "A" in AR-15 mean, and regardless of your post, It means Armalite. No matter how you and Omni defend the arrogant smugness of his post, it is what it is...Armalite.

I'm pretty sure it's exactly the other way around, people like you see the "AR" and some anti-gun group without actually looking into "AR", assumes something and voila, now you people have bought the idea "Assault Rifle". Admit it, you actually think it was named "Assault Rifle - 15".

Yes, I believe the "A" stands for "Armalite".

So, are you now saying that all guns should be banned?

I don't think you understand, you have a variety of problems and you people are putting forth a solution for a different problem.

Well, stats used are on a national average. Take the 30 murders per 100,000 people (Chicago) out of the national average, take away the 60/100,000 in other gang communities such as Baltimore or St. Louis and voila, the national average seems to fall in line to within a half a point of nearly every other country in Europe or Canada. That said, I don't plan to find myself in gangland Chicago anytime soon, therefore when I'm in the USA, I feel quite safe. Let's face it, just like Dana Loesch said, the media and the politicians don't care about black hoodlums shooting each other (there has been as many black murders in Chicago since 2/14 as there was at that school), but a school shooting of white kids causes all sorts boycotts, protests and calls for changing laws. Seems that this is the perfect time for BLM to say something about racism. Nothing about changing gun laws or taking away AR-15's will bring down gun violence in any meaningful way if one looks at national averages, and the only thing that will solve school shootings is security in schools.