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You are talking out of your ass, SIFCLF. You are acting far more like Greta Thunberg with your sky is falling chicken little faggot schtick than I am.

WTF, are you going on about, all this time you spend on here posting crap, is time you could be spending digging your bunker, or washing in bleach...not even sure what nut job media site is filling that brain of yours, Guys like you are responsible for all the panic thats going on today, empty stores, etc....over what a virous with maybe a 3.5 % kill rate...shit cancer kills well over 300,000 a year in north America, and no body even blinks...you need to get a grip on your life, and stop spreading fear....before you end up wearing a straight jacket or worse.

I see no point in jockeying back and forth about the quality of the news source. Besides, it is a poll and did not even come from them: And this perception of a partisan divide is one I tend to agree with, for now, I have noticed it in the people around me. I believe the left is far more strung out by the news due to the many recent media outrages they have been bombarded with. They now cannot tell fact from fiction. The UK approach is much much more sensible. Don't shut anything down. If anyone needs to be protected by quarantine, it's the old folks. The rest of us will get the virus, or not, and get over it same as any other year.

At the end of the day, dauntless hero is the standard in the Canadian Army, that's the bar you are expected to get yourself over, when the shit hits the fan.

There is another level of panic to be breached here, if this sweeps over us like it is in Italy, there's going to be fear in the ranks. That's simply when you have to remember where you come from, the story of your people. At the Second Battle of Ypres, the French colonial troops fled in the face of the gas, the Canadians however, counterattacked and held the line.

It’s all about timing. Many could end up getting it, but if the flow of admissions is steady, we’ll manage okay. Managing the flow while maintaining the economy.

The common flu has a kill rate of 1.7 %, but it does not set off massive panic in the financial districts, nor shut down the country, we don't stop going to work, worry about the end is coming....no we stay in bed for a couple days and carry on ,shit ever go to a day care, it's one massive ball of germs, snotty nose kids every where touching everything in site....no body blinks an eye.... what makes this different is all the people that is panicking, buying out entire stores, of what ? in our stores it's junk food was the first to go, pop , chips, chocolate bars... next was toilet paper, paper towel, the are just panic buying....instead they should be buying can goods, dry goods rice, oats, flour, powder milk, things that will not spoil, still lots of all that on the shelves, because that is what some media sites are spewing buy toilet paper because it will save you, you can't eat toilet paper , atleast I would not recommend it...... you should step back for a minute, take a breath, there is a lot that kills us everyday, be it cancer, drunk drivers, common colds, common flu, and nobody is grinding our entire way of living to a halt for any of them....this virus is going to kill people , it 's tragic, it happens everyday, but we don't let it control us...like this is... this is not the end of the world...panicking is only making it worse....

And probably never will. This is beginning to look more like a manufactured hoax to me. Nothing is making any sense anymore. Children are supposed to be immune but they are closing down schools. No more golf tournaments yet they play outside. Constant 24 hour news every minute of every day on this so called pandemic. Scare the chit out of people enough, and repeat the danger over and over again, and they will start to believe anything you tell them. We see that with the shortage of toilet paper and bread in stores. If you do not believe in conspiracies well maybe you should start to do so. We had SARS and H1N1 years ago, and there was no panic back then, and there was no shutting down the whole country like what is happening today. I could be wrong but hey, you never know, eh? Question more. Good advice.

At the press conference, the ministers are really being pressed on why American tourists and other non-essential persons are still being allowed in.

I never even thought about it before, but that's a really good point. If you had some friends that were opening up a competing store you could drag the established guys down and run their names through the mud with a lawsuit like this just to steal business from them.

If you are freaking out scared of the virus, chances are you are a Democrat. Deep partisan divide over coronavirus threat: poll Sixty-eight percent of Democrats said they were concerned that a family member could contract the virus. But that number dropped to 40 percent among Republicans. Nearly eight in 10 Democrats felt the worst was yet to come in coping with the pandemic. That number dropped in half to 40 percent among Republicans. It should be no surprise that dim witted leftists, who demonstrate a high level of gullibility are the main factor causing excessive hype in reaction. That companies like Nike are the first to close down was another clue. These shutdowns represent a bigger threat than COVID-19. It’s the left again. Russians are enjoying it, I’ll wager.

You just illustrated yet again you do not understand how growth rates of viruses are extrapolated to come up with analysis of future patterns of increase or decrease. It's so bloody stupid what you pass off at this point it's hard not to have and show contempt not pity for you.Your ignorance is based on your inability to read and extrapolate and refusal to. You are provide a classic case of someone who panics and closes his mind to anything that does not reflect back your anxiety. The moderator saysx void the personal attacks but it is very hard to avoid that at times when people panic. Sometimes good slap in the face is what they need. Can you instead of ignoring how disease rates are properly projected at least once make an effort to try find out how its done. As well when you pass off false assumptions as to extrapolating death rates, the effect of masks, what is going on in Hong Kong, etc., research what you falsely pass off as fact. All you have done is evidence you are in some sort of panic and have suspended any kind of rational thinking. People like you are dangerous. You thrash out and try pull everyone down with you. Viruses are not the problem, hysterical people are.

There isn't even any screening on borders! The questionaire - have you been to China, Iran and Italy - is totally outdated! Trudeau is going on "sleep-walk cruise," when decisive speed is definitely needed! Lol. The way they increased the level of "recommending people don't go abroad just a day before March break to a sudden COME HOME NOW! is laughable. They should've issued against any foreign travel weeks ago (when Europe started exhibiting alarming rates)! Their dire screeching, "come home NOW before you get trapped in other countries." had only produced a severely crowded airport of people from all over the world!! AT THE WORST TIME WHEN IT'S NOW A PANDEMIC - AND, TO BE IN THE WORST PLACE TO BE IN! It's a classic clusterf**k!

Banning travel, have massive screening at airports, ramp up testing and quarantines. This should have been done months ago. Screening at Pearson is non-existent.

You see pictures of people in Hong Kong wearing masks in public, and just assume it's effective because Hong Kong response in general has been effective, but correlation does not equal causation, and just because you see people wearing masks, doesn't mean that is the effective measures they are employing. Again if you knew anything about how Hong Kong is handling the virus, you wouldn't attribute their success to the public wearing masks. In fact, you are the only person I see doing that, I've heard no one else even suggest that is the reason why Hong Kong has been successful, aside from you.

Again you're completely ignorant, Hong Kong's success is not because of the reasons you think it is. The public wearing masks is not what is working, you just think it is because you don't what works and fill in the rest with wishful thinking.

I have no respect for people who think this virus is the end of the world, and the governments need to be even more draconian in their measures than they already have been. You might feel safer because of a misguided faith in government intervention to effectively address the issue, but you aren't actually making anyone any safer by holding to that foolish belief. So you can stop pretending to have the moral high ground on army guy, because you don't. He knows far more effective ways to address this situation than you ever will, so in the end his strategy would save far more lives than yours, yet you want to act like he's the one who wants people to die? Hilarious.

I never said it does absolutely nothing, I said there are infinitely more effective measures, because masks do not prevent the most common ways the virus is transferred. Washing your hands, works better than any mask, not touching your face, works better than any mask, and if you come in contact with the virus and don't get it on your hands and touch your face, a mask will not save you. Stop focusing on masks dude. Masks are for helping to prevent you from spreading the virus to others, they don't not prevent the virus from being spread to you. A better method to prevent from spreading the virus to others is self isolation, quarantine and not going out in public, going out in public wearing a mask is far more likely to spread the virus even on that tip. Masks are way down list of ways to effectively reduce the spread of the virus, your tunnel vision on them while ignoring for more important measures makes no sense whatsoever.

No. Wearing masks is ineffective and it makes me laugh that people think they are reducing their chances of infection to any significant degree by wearing them. Wear one if you want, it won't do you any good, washing your hands and not touching your face is infinitely more effective than any mask you can wear. Focusing on the masks is asinine, masks are not the answer.

I think Canada spending more money on personal protective gear, isn't going to have the effect you think it will. I think governments are going way too far to pander to panic monkey's like you, and they aren't saving lives by doing so, they are just virtue signaling to rubes. If you think the government isn't doing enough and they are under-reacting, you're the problem.

WTF there isn't to understand is what I don't get. I've been saying for years we should be taking a hard line against trade with any dictatorship and especially China's. Fortunately we don't need to have leverage over dictators to make a difference. Democracies like ours can and should exert leverage over wealthy investors in our societies that insist on continuing to do business with dictators - we just follow the money like we do when figuring out any other network of terror and stop it in it's tracks. How hard can it be?

1. You are missing the bidirectional nature of these relationships. US corporations make a great deal of money selling to, selling in and manufacturing in China. They also invest in the US and finance the US government debt. 2. The last trade war was fought to about a draw. They aren't as vulnerable as you would think. 3. Those two sentences kind of contradict. 4. Again the idea that trading is 'being nice' is just wrongheaded.

I bought roses to put in the barrels of your guns and a big bag of pot. Very productive sunny day.

"Now is the time to declare martial law in Canada. Anyone caught outside their home can be sent to prison for up to 1 year." According to the latest numbers, the people who have recovered from the virus by far outnumber those who have died. And of those who have succumbed to the virus, most had underlying health conditions. There is no need to declare martial law and the idea that someone would be sent to jail for a year should they break any such draconian measure is ludicrous. "If we close all our borders and forced everyone to stay inside their home for 3 weeks, the virus would burn itself out." "Wuhan residents have been under lockdown for over six weeks now as a result of COVID-19 ..." and they still are. www.pri.org/stories/2020-03-11/lockdown-wuhan-takes-toll-people-s-mental-health

At a certain point I think these closures become irresponsible corporate moves. I don't think stores, restaurants, or pubs should be closed except in crisis areas. Pharmacies and grocers must stay open.

Very promising gains in the development of a vaccine: https://globalnews.ca/news/6671901/coronavirus-canadian-company-covid-19-vaccine-candidate/ https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/science/scientists-in-israel-likely-to-announce-it-developed-coronavirus-vaccine/articleshow/74592807.cms?from=mdr

Most people who get infected recover. The main issue is protecting the vulnerable and not overwhelming the health care system, such that the vulnerable, if and when infected, can get the care that they need. Flatten the curve, protect and support the vulnerable. I don't think it's helpful for most businesses or government activities to shut down, as they are the supply lines and source of the goods, services, and revenues that prop up the economy and society as a whole. We don't want to kill businesses and create shortages. Perhaps as a short-term fix to flatten the surge and get a better handle on public hygiene, a certain amount of shutting down is necessary, but it must be finite and controlled. For example, I can see us temporarily transition to an "A B" or even and "A B C" school environment for a while, where students are divided into smaller classes of say 10-15, so that students have plenty of space around them, use washrooms one at a time, and an intensive cleaning regimen is maintained. Students would attend school in these groupings every second or third day. Teachers could communicate with students using online tools on the other days. But maybe that isn't even necessary. We also have to remember that there's a psychological component to all of this isolation and worry that takes its toll and adds to the problem. We need to keep active and working to some degree. We need a sense of community, even if only in small groupings. Online connections help but probably aren't a sufficient replacement for real physical presence. No man is an island. We are social beings. I'm not sure it's worthwhile or wise to make restaurants and pubs close, for example, though certainly we should have better capacity limits and enforce them. Basically we institute policies of social distancing in schools and the workplace. We maintain this until we see that the health system can handle the vulnerable, who will be following a higher regimen of isolation (probably voluntarily self-imposed instead of "enforced"). That should be plenty of caution, and yes, we will likely see more vulnerable people die than we're used to. Either those who get the virus get an immunity or they do not. If they do, then eventually, even if the virus reaches most of the population, it will settle down after the immunity (which is also what would happen if we develop a vaccine for everyone who hasn't been infected). If there is no permanent immunity after getting the virus, and people can be re-infected, then we will have to get used to this new normal of the vulnerable having to be extra careful to avoid infection, and accepting that some vulnerable people will get infected, with the hope that the health system can support them quite well. I think it can. A vaccine would certainly help. However, with or without one, at some point we have to return to public life, just with greater care. We'll adjust. The silly hoarding has to stop and we need to hear more from the sensible experts. They are not calling for a shut down. We should take this opportunity to think about what our new normal should look like. Perhaps reduced work hours in smaller groupings, with more online work, is a better way for us all to live going forward, with less travel, less work, and less stress. Perhaps this is how we solve the problem of automation replacing human jobs. This was predicted decades ago as a good thing. Machines could do more of the work so humans can do less of it and enjoy more personal interests and time with loved ones. If the whole Breton-Woods monetary system really is a bit of a fiction, which the quantitative easing of the last 19 years has demonstrated, perhaps this is the time for a form of universal basic income, so that no one suffers or feels left out. Lack of money shouldn't be a barrier to health care, education, and a clean environment. We need to think about how we can trade and maintain decent living standards AND maintain a clean environment with a high quality of life. Regulations aren't always bad. They can help a great deal. So can international bodies and trade pacts. Whatever gets ourselves and our trading partners to that place we need to go, a healthy society with a downward trend in emissions and plenty of opportunity, we must do.

I agree about the coronavirus we should not be sad nor glad, we should be mad; very mad as hell at the way our health care system and emergency readiness is so totally unprepared. The result of decades of nothing but cut, cut, cut to these services. Meanwhile bureaucratic costs keep going up. There is no limit to that department, it seems. Well, how do you like it now Mr. Trudeau. Things are not looking so pretty anymore. It's always easy to be a leader when there is no big problem, when all is sunshine and smiles. But when there is a problem, that's when real leadership needs to come out. Meanwhile in Ottawa: Granted these are fairly big problems to solve, now that we've receded so far away from an actually working model. So better get started working on them now. Then we can forget about this virus and get back to working on the other really big problems we have to solve.

Ha...don't kid yourself, we're the weediest species on the planet. We can make a go of it in virtually every environment we've got and we're pushing deeper and farther into environments that no other species on Earth can even come close to...notwithstanding the one's that hitch a ride on us. Nothing has resisted us yet.

Lol..wrong again..its spelled odour in British and Canadian English... odor is the yankee version...I useBritish English as I am an illuminati Rothchild.

The trick is to slow the spread and prioritize the treatment to those who need treatment. That way the health systems aren’t overwhelmed. It will settle down.

May a gay person through a cream pie in your face. This kind of crap does not belong in court or in a rational world. If someone is that upset about gay people they won't bake them a cake that is pathetic. To call it a win is sad. Being ignorant of others in the name of God is not a win its just ignorance couched as religious views. You really think Jesus would not feed you because you are gay?

Oh he sure has. He's gonna hide under his bed until it blows over. Can some of you get a handle on your anxiety. So you are afraid of a virus. You can't see it, smell it, hear it, control it. Its the invisible boogy man so if you stock up on toilet paper and noodles and sodium glutamate, msg and salt and hide in your home, presto the bogyman will passover. Why don't you also smeer a lamb's blood on your front door while you are at it so your first born won't die. Where do y'all want to go with these threads anyways? The public schools are closed for two weeks for now. Its because many children are not supervised at home washing their hands, may travel during the break. and when they return they could spread any kind of virus including this one. Its a pre-caution. It doesn't mean you run it like some panic headline and piss your pants. It means we take common sense measures. This is not the first outbreak of a virus. What is the matter with some of you? Are you really that sheltered?