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Just because you assume what I do / don't do about my government's domestic and foreign policy, it doesn't mean that it's true. I have never indicated what I do or don't do in regards to my government's policies.

I have based my comments about you by quoting you as you have been very upfront and unapologetic about supporting foreign policies that create death and destruction. On the other hand, you are assuming that I am "enjoying and remain complicit in past/present death and destruction" and "Terrorists in the UK are not just about ISIS...they are about attacking the status quo that you support in deed". You are simply wrong on both of those remarks. You can either continue to assume and be wrong or you can ask me where I stand on those.

That's a lot of assumptions. And as the person you are making assumptions about, all I can tell you is that you are wrong. I must say; With all of the faults that I think you have, at least you are honest and upfront about your support for policies that are destructive and inhumane. Unlike many people on here who throw their hands in the air and scream "why do they hate us?!!" - Who seem to be oblivious to the actions of the team they have decided to unconditionally cheer for and not question their policies around the world.

What tenets? What lies? The reason people are suspicious of Muslims is the daily tide of intolerance and violence coming from the Muslim world. You can try to blame that on the West but it's coming from ALL over the Muslim world, including areas which have never been colonized and where there has been no western military incursions in generations, if ever.

Most at the hands of other Muslims, those good time boys you're so keen on.

Congratulations. Last few posts represent the moments of your life when you were closest to science, logic and reasoning. Now ignore me and continue your Erdogan praising with your doner kebab friends..

It must be difficult for you, when there is research like this, from an Israeli-American geneticist and bioinformatician with a doctorate in molecular evolution, showing how Ashkenazi Jews are descendants of Khazars. I guess he's another self-hating Jew who isn't trying to justify the Zionist narrative. If anyone is interested in learning more about the research, see the above link and see this article: The new research suggests that most of the Jewish population of northern and eastern Europe – normally known as Ashkenazic Jews – are the descendants of Greeks, Iranians and others who colonized what is now northern Turkey more than 2000 years ago and were then converted to Judaism, probably in the first few centuries AD by Jews from Persia. At that stage, the Persian Empire was home to the world’s largest Jewish communities.

You know that when you make a status update you can delete any responses you don't like, right? Anyway, the correct response to her long list of people on her ignore list is to ignore her.

Who said I support ISIS? I said you are as bad as an ISIS supporter. Because both you and the ISIS supporter are okay with death and destruction. Just because I disagree with many of U.S. and friends' foreign policies, it doesn't mean that I support the latest bogeyman, ISIS. That's an extremely shallow way to think.

It is a bad thing. People like you, who are okay with policies that create death and destruction are bad for this world. You're not any different than those who support ISIS.

Wrong. I don't have to leave my country in order to speak against some of its policies. If I don't agree with some of the policies, I speak out against it, I vote against it and I put my money against it. You are complicit for the millions of deaths in the Middle East and the blowback for U.S. and the West's foreign policies because you happily support these policies.

I don't cheer on and support my country or any other country that tramples on other people's human rights for the sake of "economic and political interest".

Not sure where you're getting your quote from, but I can't find it anywhere. The Defense Minister is already on record saying that this was not about regime change. Also, Secretary of State, Albright said this: Clinton administration officials said the aim of the mission was to "degrade" Iraq's ability to manufacture and use weapons of mass destruction, not to eliminate it. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was asked about the distinction while the operation was going on: "I don't think we're pretending that we can get everything, so this is – I think – we are being very honest about what our ability is. We are lessening, degrading his ability to use this. The weapons of mass destruction are the threat of the future. I think the president explained very clearly to the American people that this is the threat of the 21st century. […] [W]hat it means is that we know we can't get everything, but degrading is the right word." What U.S. did in Iraq gave no indication that they wanted 'regime change' or to remove Saddam. They just wanted to weaken Saddam and his military. This is exactly what their actions showed.

Indeed....IRA was quite nasty back in those days...

That's not denoted in the statistics but classification for denials could be released but isn't. Denials for criminal charges (ie. pot and DUIs) and suspected labour infractions have gone down but denials because of country of origin have increased. Figures lie and liars figure.

Far too often these asylum-seekers claim that they are apostates and sending them back would be a certain death but after they have received asylum all of a sudden their belief in islam takes a new turn.

More "Red Scare" data for Muslims in the USA.....so scary, more mosques are opening each year:

Good...this is what many groups have experienced in the U.S. What is so special about Muslims in that regard ?

I've read a lot about immigration in European countries compared to immigration into the US. My personal opinion is that America respects immigrants more in regard to viewing them as potential assets, Europe has experienced more problems with immigration because it tends to view immigrants in a condescending type of way - more as charity cases, needy, often leading a lot of them to become nothing more than wards of the state. While immigrants are encouraged to keep certain aspects of their culture once in the US, they are also expected to integrate and to get a job. Not so much in most European countries. Most European countries have laws that actually prevent this. For example, Sweden has a minimum age for marrying of 18, but for immigrants there is no minimum. In Germany, a German who marries and wants to bring their new spouse in from outside the EU has years of legal hoops to jump through, but an immigrant is not required to do so, since it is assumed the marriage is arranged and the parties will likely have never even met. Europe has been overly-accomodating and reluctant to address certain reprehensible traditions and religious/cultural differences and so has created extreme problems for itself, that the US has not experienced (at least not nearly to the same extent.) In many parts of Europe, when an ethnic European beats his wife, the police know how to handle it. When it's an immigrant beating his wife, it's seen as a cultural thing that the police have no right to intrude on. I could go on and on.....but if you just think about how these and other policies prevent immigrants from integrating (not to mention how they fail women), you'll see what I'm getting at. It's difficult, as a North American women, to watch immigrant women be treated so poorly due to culture and also see that our own governments provide them no help simply because they are immigrants. And to hear people like you demand that they keep these aspects of their culture or ignore them, I feel you do immigrants a great disservice. I view it more as a clash of cultures than a "Red Scare". And I'm sorry if you think it makes me a bad person....but as a woman, I would take living in Western society over living in a Muslim society - any day. Is our way perfect? No, but I do think it is better.

Been there, done that. I've simply given up trying to have a coherent or rational discussion on the 9/11 issue with truthers. Regardless of what point I address and destroy you will not be deterred, but will immediately jump to another, and another, and another, and another, and then back to the first as if it hadn't already been left crushed, broken and bleeding on the floor. I've been here a while. 9/11 truthers bore me.

So far everything I've posted is in answer to questions you've asked. Anyone here, left or right, would tell you there are no issues I'm afraid to address. But everything you raise in your rants has been raised here before by other people on the fringes of the far left, and since it has zero credibility I don't feel much need to point out the lack of logic and just plain silliness.

Although all US war crimes and terrorist acts of of great importance, let's just start with the 4 million murdered Muslims since 1990, described by the US Physicians for Social Responsibility. If this doesn't put an end to all the silly suggestions that we poor westerners are living in such dangerous times, threatened as we are by the Muslim hordes, I don't know what will. Red Scare - it's deja vu all over again.

I am proud of my Caucasian race. Why is that a problem with you and others? If I were black or Asian and I said that I was proud of my race would you have something to say about that? So, me being Caucasian and showing some concern about what is happening to my race, you and millions find this disturbing. So, you must feel that I am a threat to you and millions of others? Why? What are you afraid of? Curious.

Maybe more posters would be inclined to discuss this with you if you weren't foaming at the mouth with hatred, and responded to the points being made, without the barrage of snark and insults. Just a suggestion.

The OP explains why I've created this thread. Non-Christians had thrown these Biblical verses....and I'm giving the verses as written, in their full and accurate context. No interpretations are necessary for these, as they're plainly and clearly written. I'll say for the last time: if you want to refute, deal with the verses given.

If you want a Chong, Michael would not be my choice. Rae Dawn Chong...now I could get behind HER for sure. We could hire Tommy for an advisor, since Canada is now officially Up In Smoke.

Exactly. I was born in Pakistan. We had a dictator like Erdogan in 80s. The dictator islamized our country, brainwashed our new generation by introducing misleading Jihadi literature in school curricula, created Jihadis in order for them to fight Russia. (US was okay with the radicalization as Russia was a more immediate threat and Jihadi interest was aligned with the US interest of defeating Russians). In short, 30 years later, we have a whole generation completely brainwashed. Very religious. Extremists who participated in Jihad in Afghanistan are creating chaos in Pakistan now, suicide bombing has been part of daily lives since last 15 years. Islamization is a slippery slope. Very difficult to undo once you start it. I hope, Turkey gets rid of Erdogan before severe damage is done. Growing up, liberals in Pakistan used to give examples of Ataturk on how he made Turkey a modern and progressive country. What a shame that Erdogan is destroying all of it.

Nazis is fine.

No need to on this end...pick a century...Islam has its moments. Let's see...say the mid 11th century AD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1066_Granada_massacre How Islamic State of them.

Of course Jews are not a race. Many Jews are not even semites. Many Jews are descendants of Khazars who converted to Judaism in the 8th century. They have no connection to Palestine. I wonder if the Jewish boy who sent in the bomb threats is actually mentally ill? Or was he doing this to create sympathy for Jews? We will see how this will unfold.

In fairness, Bernier is photogenic by regular non-JT standards, O'Leary is a media celeb, Scheer is selfie-worthy and even poor old Kellie has tried to sex up her look, so image does count in the Conservative Party. I still like O'Toole and Raitt the most but O'Toole looks like the one with an outside chance now, a viable challenger for PM if JT's sheen rubs off fast and we start looking for another Joe Clarke. He delivers bad news well and it's hard to get angry with him. Bernier's success really surprises me. That episode with Couillard was tres dodgy and showed poor judgement.

I just had a look back. It seems that you are more bothered by "Complete idiots burning books on the ends of sticks. Tossers", than you are by two men, and I quote, "who were responsible for maybe 5 or 6 million people between them who were actually killed". Why?

It doesn't bother me at all. What shocks me is how you can be so shocked at someone who thinks a body should be killed and just two of the many US tossers who were responsible for maybe 5 or 6 million people between them who were actually killed.

OK, I was hoping we could discuss your views rationally, because I agree with you that the West is not blameless. But right off the bat, you deny there are any issues in or with Islam. Disappointing.

The reason terrorism was able to thrive in Iraq was because the people who had control over the country, for many years, were no longer there. And the occupying force failed to bring order and control into the country after their shock and awe. This created the perfect situation for mercenaries to come from all over the world to join ISIS and make some cash. I'm sure some were idealists, but many went there for the cash, provided to them by Saudis and the Gulf States.

Ho ho hooo, here what I found now. So appearently Britain responses CIA's London attack with Cincinati attack. http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2017/03/26/cameo-nightclub-shooting-what-we-know-now/99661248/

Yes, you most assuredly are a conspiracist, as are all the folks discussing various conspiracies with you. When you discuss the US official story you are also a conspiracy theorist, because that is not only a theory, it is a completely unproven theory, it has been shown to be a Golconda of lies.

Be honest. You claim that you would like Turkiye to be controlled by a good government. This is lie. Westerners does not like a Muslim country to be controlled by a good government. They want and be happy with it when Muslim countries ruled by bad governments. Because Westerners does not like a Muslim country to be developed. If Turkish govt was really a bad govt, all the Western countries would support them. Western countries also does not want each other to be developed more than themselves. US does not want any other Western countries to be more strong. Britain does not want US to be more strong, Germany does not want US nor Britain nor France. Italy hates all of them. Other small puppet Western countries lives like parasite near these some strong Western countries. So please stop telling "we dont like Turkish govt because they are making Muslim Turkiye is a bad country". you are lying

It is for the very reasons that the US has no experience dealing with terrorism that had to endure the tragic events of 9/11....

No, the purpose of Desert Fox was not regime change. This is simply not true. This time the purpose is to force Saddam Hussein to change his policy. "We do not have as a goal the toppling of Saddam Hussein," said William Cohen, the US Defence Secretary link

LOL.

Absolute BS rue and you know it....I dare you to show me a single post on this thread where I have defended the actions of the terrorist. I opened this thread in good faith that there will be some gross constructive arguments. And you were doing just fine until you started with your god damn smearing and labelling me apologiser for this terrorist activity. Go on knock yourself out... The only reason you mention me here is because you know too damn well I have not condoned the damn apartheid policies of the Israeli government in other posts....And that's what is getting into you. You cannot accept that and use any excuse to attack other posters who disagree with you....

That underlined word made all the difference in your eloquent argument.

The objective was not to push aside Saddam and 'regime change' when those relatively minor attacks happened. That was initiated when Cheney came to power, after 9/11 and after the WMD fabrication.

These two are not mutually exclusive as the evidence suggests....

I have been taking a passing glance at Turkey in the news and I must say that the country seems to be moving backwards. The presidential referendum is just a huge power grab for a man who seems to be unable to accept criticism in anyway. Hence the shut down of any newspaper or media that speaks against him

And the fact that Israel is a jewish state, not a jewish nation, but a jewish state, means that even if arabs form a majority, jews rights take precedence over Arabs, which is why it is indeed Israeli apartheid. When you declare a country a racial state, you must by nature engage in steps of segregation and apartheid to preserve. SO Israel segregates based on religion, and religious segregation is cool but racial segregation is wrong. Now here is the rub, most jews in Israel are actually athiest or non-practicing and therefore not even religious jews, but actually racial jews. Thus Israel is not a jewish state in the sense of a religion like the vatican being a catholic state, Israel is a jewish state in a strict racial sense as in being a country for people who are racially jewish, which is why even athiest jews can make ayat. Yes but whites (and every other race) discriminated in the history books against african original people of canada. Therefore, they have the same claim to have their own schools as jews do for their own nation. So you agree we should dismantle the state of Israel. I understand arabs cannot go to public schools with jews in most cases and don't even speak the same language. You really think arab kids in jewish settlements can go to school with jews? The afrocentric schools and community serve as a refuge to original people so they won't be exterminated too. Why did Jews leave Europe and move to Israel but to move away from integrated socieites and segregate themselves into a giant segregationist state? Look, there are some jews who are self hating, but it is no surprise, jews were told they were scum for years so some believe it. What else is a person going to think when they are told they are scum daily.

Really... you figure Canadians think politicians in other countries should dictate to us what we spend on things, by threatening us? With that sort of defeatist attitude why even both with a military. Just surrender if someone invades.

If I want advice on which celebrity chef to fire Mr Trump will be the first one I talk to. His opinion on Canada's military spending? Couldn't care less.

Canada shouldn't spend an extra dime on NATO until America deals with its Trump issue. Then we can review it. 1% seems about the correct amount to spend though. We have other priorities (health, education, etc).