Poilievre vs Carney: Critical Issue

[Army Guy]

8 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

We've had 11 years of liberals because of Harpers failures that got Trudeau elected, and the conservatives having no appealing leader since.  Them's the facts...   Why would anyone blame Poilievre...he's irrelevant.  And of course wyou wouldn't blame Trump for his attempt to break our economy with tariffs.... it's the liberals fault.

You obviously can't comprehend what the impact of tariffs has done to the economy.  Sure, layoffs and job loses in the lumber, steel, aluminum and auto sectors is all because of the liberals.

I'd agree Trudeau was near the top of the worst.  A good argument that Harper is the upper echelon of the worst as well.  If not for Carney, we'd have a living breathing in-office today worst ever PM in Poilievre.

I highly doubt your opinion carries any weight with our allies.  If anyone ever did listen to you I'm sure they'd have figured our you're a Conversative and Trump *ss kisser.

 

On the contrary....  The vast majority of Canadians are proud of there fact that we are a reliable partner.  It's you sorry ass complainers that have a problem because the conservatives can't win an election with the fools you continue to put on the stage.

Not much to chirp about with Poilievre, other than thank goodness Carney came along and that clown isn't our PM.   If you believe a career politician with zero background in anything is qualified to run our country keep believing it.  There is a reason he lost a 27% poll lead and an election that should have been a slam dunk and continues to have unfavourable approval ratings.  A snap election today would end his career.  There likely won't be one so we get the pleasure of watching him fade into the past tense...

 

NO, we got 11 years of liberal rule because liberal voters are just that gullible...that or they are not that smart, i mean i can understand the first term....any one but harper crowd...but after seeing and living with Justins retarded policies for another 8 years is not very smart, or just not interested in how much damage the liberals did or were doing...So ya we are were we are today because of liberal stupidity...

According to Carney , Canada has the best deal globally, with 85% of our trade tariff free...so which is it do we have the best deal or are tariffs killing our economy....But hey liberals have been very vocal about not rushing the deal....the fact that Carney team did not even talk to the US for over 8 months is telling, they don't care about lay offs or they would be at the table...So stop using the layoffs as an excuse when liberals don't give a rat a$$ about layoffs...or making a deal...

Your right my opinion does not carry any weight globally with our allies...But a quick global search will tell you we are laggards in the eyes of our allies and not very reliable...The vast leftist Canadians could not begin to tell you why you think we are reliable....they still think we have a modern military...stop drinking the kool aid...and just do your own research....would not have anything to complain about if the liberals just did something....One day you leftist will have to pull your heads out of your a$$es to see just what damage the liberal brand has done to our nation....

  

[Army Guy]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Not saying a lot for Poilievre if a monkey can shame him...  Ouch

Conservative Premiers seem to be liking Carney a lot.  Odd isn't it... 😂

 

 

Not odd they know which side the bread is buttered.....play nice and win big prizes....

[LinkSoul60]

31 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

NO, we got 11 years of liberal rule because liberal voters are just that gullible...that or they are not that smart, i mean i can understand the first term....any one but harper crowd...but after seeing and living with Justins retarded policies for another 8 years is not very smart, or just not interested in how much damage the liberals did or were doing...So ya we are were we are today because of liberal stupidity...

According to Carney , Canada has the best deal globally, with 85% of our trade tariff free...so which is it do we have the best deal or are tariffs killing our economy....But hey liberals have been very vocal about not rushing the deal....the fact that Carney team did not even talk to the US for over 8 months is telling, they don't care about lay offs or they would be at the table...So stop using the layoffs as an excuse when liberals don't give a rat a$$ about layoffs...or making a deal...

Your right my opinion does not carry any weight globally with our allies...But a quick global search will tell you we are laggards in the eyes of our allies and not very reliable...The vast leftist Canadians could not begin to tell you why you think we are reliable....they still think we have a modern military...stop drinking the kool aid...and just do your own research....would not have anything to complain about if the liberals just did something....One day you leftist will have to pull your heads out of your a$$es to see just what damage the liberal brand has done to our nation....

  

We have 11 years of a liberal government because of conservative failures. I can buy people being gullible once or even twice, but not 4 times.  Facts are what they are AG, and Canada doesn't want the conservative clowns you've lined up as party leaders to run the country.  Trudeau held the door wide open during his last 3 years and Poilievre still couldn't win the election. People are smarter than you think....

Yes, apparently we do have the best deal of any country and I'm glad to see Carney isn't satisfied with that...yet, or as far as we know. Layoffs and job losses in those sectors are a direct result of ridiculously high tariffs, which are not an excuse?  You don't comprehend well do you... 

I won't argue that we've been laggards with military spending.  It started with Harper who spent the least of any PM, gradually increased with Trudeau, and fair to say it's a new spending ballgame now.  I don't think you'd find many Canadians at all who believe our military is 'modern', which is being changed.  Why is that a problem for you?

 

[LinkSoul60]

30 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Not odd they know which side the bread is buttered.....play nice and win big prizes....

Which is kind of the whole point when we have 13 little countries looking out for themselves in one big country...  But those big prizes sure help people put bread on the tables don't they.

[WestCanMan]

On 5/9/2026 at 12:01 PM, herbie said:

OMG what a foolish and baseless statement.

It's avg for you

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Gonna join the smear at any cost without offering any viable alternative whatsoever club? Got enough posters here that can only do that.

What do leftists ever do aside from slander, smear and malign? 

6 years later, Carney is still trying to deliver a passing economy, and failing. 

But "it's all someone else's fault", right? 😉 

Mostly Harper and all those damn trade deals that he signed with countries not named "USA" 😂

 

[eyeball]

On 5/15/2026 at 12:04 PM, Army Guy said:

I think me blaming the liberals for everything has something to do with they are the party in charge for the last 11 years

Maybe you just feel particularly entitled or something.

[WestCanMan]

42 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

We have 11 years of a liberal government because of conservative failures.

We have 11 years of LPoC gov't because of CBC lies and BS. Most elderly Canadians are completely hoodwinked by them.

CBC spent 3 years acting like $90k Duffygate was the biggest scandal in the history of global politics (the 2015 election is a referendum on Duffygate!!"), then they looked the other way while Trudeau blocked investigations into his own laundry-list of scandals, with one of them involving exactly 10,000 times as much money as Duffygate. 10,000 x bigger, but with 1,000 times less coverage.

CBC ignored/covered for all those scandals, and then after Scheer's election they came out and said "Scheer needs to resign because he couldn't win despite all of Trudeau's scandals!" 😂

You know.... all the scandals that CBC ignored during the election campaign season. 

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I can buy people being gullible once or even twice, but not 4 times.  

You're in year 15, at the very least. You'll buy anything if it's on CBC, doofus.

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Facts are what they are

You know as much about facts as Carney knows about telling the truth.

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Canada doesn't want the conservative clowns you've lined up as party leaders to run the country.  

Oh buddy, your little pea-brain is just all lost and confused.

Conservatives are the ones who "answer questions with direct, intelligent responses" and come up with the ideas that Liberals and the CBC lackeys suddenly LOVE at election time, after bashing them for several years. 

The Liberals are the fking clowns here, and it's not even close.

Goddamn...When Chrystia Freeland said "We need to strengthen our relations with nuclear-armed countries like France and Britain, to protect us from the US 🤡" I honestly thought her political career was over, it was that stupid. But then our g o v e r n m e n t repeated it ffs. Then we signed the Canada-Europe Defence Patsies. I mean, "Pact". That might be the most embarrassed I've ever been in my life, and Trudeau was our PM for 10 years. 

You're dumb with a capital z, Link. 

(no one tell him that there's no 'z' in dumb, I wanna let him fret over it for a while)

Edited yesterday at 01:24 AM by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

CBC spent 3 years acting like $90k Duffygate was the biggest scandal in the history of global politics

No, it was because Harper's government turned Duffygate into a spectacle by secretly paying Duffy's bill, forcing him to pretend he took out a loan to do so, threatening him with expulsion if he didn't and eventually threw him under the bus when Harper got caught.

Conservatives suck at doing corruption which explains why they suck at doing anything about it and preventing Liberals from doing it.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

No, it was because Harper's government turned Duffygate into a spectacle by secretly paying Duffy's bill, forcing him to pretend he took out a loan to do so, threatening him with expulsion if he didn't and eventually threw him under the bus when Harper got caught.

Conservatives suck at doing corruption which explains why they suck at doing anything about it and preventing Liberals from doing it.

So the Liberal corruption is the Conservatives fault?

My oh my you must have had a bad fall off the rocking horse.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

So the Liberal corruption is the Conservatives fault?

Nope.

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Is it fair to say you think everyone who isn't a conservative is a far-fringe lefty - there's no steps in-between, no gradient other than near-horizontal to near-vertical?

You don't think Herbie is far left? What would you call him, a moderate Liberal?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

You don't think Herbie is far left? What would you call him, a moderate Liberal?

Nope. The fact he isn't one of you people is what stands out.

[SpankyMcFarland]

There’s always tension between what the base wants and what policies will bring a win. The Tories have gone too far right both in policy and tone with Poilievre and that has put off a lot of potential voters. As long as the NDP remains a shadow of its former self Carney can keep a wide coalition going. 

[Michael Hardner]

54 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

There’s always tension between what the base wants and what policies will bring a win. The Tories have gone too far right both in policy and tone with Poilievre and that has put off a lot of potential voters. As long as the NDP remains a shadow of its former self Carney can keep a wide coalition going. 

Well this is plainly said and arguable.

But the thing that needs addressing is how the public sphere produced such an unCanadian character as Poilievre.

To me, it was the emergence of the Culture of the Comments, ie. Internet comments... Brash, Unapologetic, Strident... It appeals to those who want to preach back at the preachers. 

It takes down the intelligentsia of the past generation, and expands the public sphere. 

Whatever supplants it will need to respond to it and incorporate it.

 

 

[Barquentine]

21 hours ago, John Johnston said:

However, if an actual Conservative Leader with some serious credentials comes along, then perhaps people will take another look. 

Ok, I suppose we should go easier on the Conservatives. They're doing the best they can with what they've got.

[Legato]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

Nope. The fact he isn't one of you people is what stands out.

You mean hides behind.

[LinkSoul60]

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

We have 11 years of LPoC gov't because of CBC lies and BS. Most elderly Canadians are completely hoodwinked by them.

CBC spent 3 years acting like $90k Duffygate was the biggest scandal in the history of global politics (the 2015 election is a referendum on Duffygate!!"), then they looked the other way while Trudeau blocked investigations into his own laundry-list of scandals, with one of them involving exactly 10,000 times as much money as Duffygate. 10,000 x bigger, but with 1,000 times less coverage.

CBC ignored/covered for all those scandals, and then after Scheer's election they came out and said "Scheer needs to resign because he couldn't win despite all of Trudeau's scandals!" 😂

You know.... all the scandals that CBC ignored during the election campaign season. 

You're in year 15, at the very least. You'll buy anything if it's on CBC, doofus.

You know as much about facts as Carney knows about telling the truth.

Oh buddy, your little pea-brain is just all lost and confused.

Conservatives are the ones who "answer questions with direct, intelligent responses" and come up with the ideas that Liberals and the CBC lackeys suddenly LOVE at election time, after bashing them for several years. 

The Liberals are the fking clowns here, and it's not even close.

Goddamn...When Chrystia Freeland said "We need to strengthen our relations with nuclear-armed countries like France and Britain, to protect us from the US 🤡" I honestly thought her political career was over, it was that stupid. But then our g o v e r n m e n t repeated it ffs. Then we signed the Canada-Europe Defence Patsies. I mean, "Pact". That might be the most embarrassed I've ever been in my life, and Trudeau was our PM for 10 years. 

You're dumb with a capital z, Link. 

(no one tell him that there's no 'z' in dumb, I wanna let him fret over it for a while)

I don't care about the Trudeau years any more... he's long gone.  Great to see that you and the other can't stop crying crowd aren't over it yet though 😂

[John Johnston]

39 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I don't care about the Trudeau years any more... he's long gone.  Great to see that you and the other can't stop crying crowd aren't over it yet though 😂

Same nonsense in American Conservative circles, still whining about Obama, Hillary and Biden. PP takes pages out of the Republican playbook, that is why the Conmen cannot get any traction.  There seems to be parallels from the time the Orange Plague first went down the magic staircase. 

[LinkSoul60]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

But the thing that needs addressing is how the public sphere produced such an unCanadian character as Poilievre.

I don't think we have to look too hard to find the answer, do we...?  Politics aside, Poilievre is just one of those people that whether it be his looks, mannerism's, tone of voice, whatever....  is just hard to like. Every approval polling for the last 2 years has shown that.  

His 'unCanadian' character is just the past attempt to be the "Trump of Canada' as Trudeau's term was flailing and has forever screwed his political ambition of becoming our PM. Trump has made divisiveness 'cool' to some and Poilievre chose to be the clown that brought that style to his politics.  I think it's fair to say the majority of Canadian's don't like it...

[LinkSoul60]

19 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Same nonsense in American Conservative circles, still whining about Obama, Hillary and Biden. PP takes pages out of the Republican playbook, that is why the Conmen cannot get any traction.  There seems to be parallels from the time the Orange Plague first went down the magic staircase. 

Spot on... it's the 'new politics'.  When you have nothing else just complain about past liberal/democrat administrations saying 'look what they did' and hope there are enough minions that will follow you.  

[John Johnston]

2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I don't think we have to look too hard to find the answer, do we...?  Politics aside, Poilievre is just one of those people that whether it be his looks, mannerism's, tone of voice, whatever....  is just hard to like. Every approval polling for the last 2 years has shown that.  

His 'unCanadian' character is just the past attempt to be the "Trump of Canada' as Trudeau's term was flailing and has forever screwed his political ambition of becoming our PM. Trump has made divisiveness 'cool' to some and Poilievre chose to be the clown that brought that style to his politics.  I think it's fair to say the majority of Canadian's don't like it...

Shmarmy politics works for America, might as well try it here since PP is cozy with the likes of the Convoy and Diagolon bunch. That is what galls me. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I don't care about the Trudeau years any more... he's long gone.  Great to see that you and the other can't stop crying crowd aren't over it yet though 😂

As a nation, when we just swapped Trudeau out for Carney, it's like we shit our pants and then changed our shirt.

The LPoC Politburo is still in place.

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

But the thing that needs addressing is how the public sphere produced such an unCanadian character as Poilievre.

The thing that needs addressing is how a person like Poilievre is considered "unCanadian" by so many people.

Canadians used to care about integrity. We used to care about the truth. We used to have things called "spines". 

You're sitting there, smug AF, whining like a little b1tch about how "gwumpy" Poilievre is, while our problem is that our MSM has gone to hell in a handbasket. 

In 2026, the best thing that you can have on your resume is "Worked for the CBC" when you apply to work for Xinhua. FYI that's not good.   

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Legato said:

You mean hides behind.

No I don't.

[Goddess]

Now that fellow globalist Louise Arbor is Governor General, she and Carney are the most senior figures in Canada.  And the tone of the country is set by those at the top.

Like Carney, Arbor is life-long globalist.  It was under her direction at the UN that mass, unfettered and unvetted immigration was forced upon Western countries.

Both Carney and Arbor, their entire professional lives have been oriented around globalist obligations.  Neither of them believe in the sovereignty of individual nations.  Read Carney's book if you don't believe me.

Under Liberal/Trudeau/Carney direction (let's be honest - these 3 are all the same) Canada gave away $11 billion in the last decade to mainly gender-sensitive causes around the world.  We have given $25 billion to Ukraine, which is now being revealed that most of that money has gone into the pockets of the corrupt leaders of Ukraine.

Meanwhile, our own infrastructure crumbles, our economy is tanking, 25% of Canadians are starving, tent cities increasing in every city, the fentanyl crisis is of the charts (and BTW, WHERE THE HELL IS OUR SUPPOSED FENTANYL CZAR?  ANYONE SEEN OR HEARD FROM HIM?  BUELLER?  BUELLER?) Canadians dying in hospital waiting rooms, and the mass importing of low-skilled Uber drivers and Tim Horton's workers continues.

Canada will continue to deteriorate under these two.

Canadians and the Canadian national interest factor near the bottom of their priority list.

Canadians are nothing but tax cattle, sheep to be fleeced, to these globalists.