Left winger radical opens fire at the WH correspondence dinner causing POTUS and FLOTUS to evacuate

[John Stone]

21 minutes ago, West said:

Yes lets take a totally unrelated incident politicized by the Democrats to have significant imposition on many people's lives, including farmers and ranchers, and try to apply it to leftists trying to assassinate people. 

Thats really what this is about... leftists are going crazy and killing or attempting to kill people over their policy differences. Sick individuals 

To date there have been approximately 121 mass shootings in the U.S............. with mass shootings steadily increasing in frequency over the past decades. 

Dude, the solution might be political but the problem is National. 

It is not  the citizens love of guns, its the fear of being  shot to death that drives the gun industry..... the industry grooms the fear. Fear, baby ............ u feared? 😄

[User]

12 minutes ago, John Stone said:

I don't hate guns, they are tools, akin to Trump .................................... and others? 😄

You don’t hate guns… as you push the same drivel the typical gun hating leftist pushes?

Yeah right. 
 

 

[CdnFox]

Just now, John Stone said:

To date there have been approximately 121 mass shootings in the U.S............. with mass shootings steadily increasing in frequency over the past decades. 

Dude, the solution might be political but the problem is National. 

It is not  the citizens love of guns, its the fear of being  shot to death that drives the gun industry..... the industry grooms the fear. Fear, baby ............ u feared? 😄

Pretty much all of that is untrue when you look at it. It's the kind of thing that people who want to hate guns but don't want to look into the issue state

Mass shootings, being any shooting involving four or more people, have been going up mainly due to criminal violence. Gang members shooting gang members, that sort of thing. If you take the number of "crime-related" shootings out of the equations the US isn't actually that bad, and the increases are the same or lower than population growth. 

The problem isn't guns. The problem is there are a number of people usually with mental health issues who have decided it's okay for other people to get killed. They use guns in America because that's what gets the headlines, but lots of people don't use guns and some of the biggest mass killings around the world and America haven't involved any. What's the common denominator between the killings involving guns and the killings involving cars and the killings involving bombs? The killer. That's what needs to be focused on.

And it's the citizens love of guns. The vast majority of guns are purchased either for hunting or other Wildlife Control or for fun. Only a small portion of guns are purchased for self protection and even then rarely out of fear. That's like saying that Automotive Insurance is bought by people that are afraid to drive.

Maybe stop listening to anti-gun propaganda and actually learn about this stuff yourself  a bit

 

[Reg Volk]

 

[John Stone]

4 minutes ago, User said:

You don’t hate guns… as you push the same drivel the typical gun hating leftist pushes?

Yeah right. 
 

 

Starting with the basics - responsible gun ownership is not only about how, where, and when a person uses their firearm; it's also about how store it when not in use. Over 74 percent of Americans support laws that require a person to lock up the firearms in their homes when not in use. 

U one of those so-called, 'nose of the camel', dudes when it comes to gun law reform.........

........... haha

 

[Reg Volk]

On 4/25/2026 at 7:34 PM, John Johnston said:

I just don't care. At all. The good news is they did not have to listen to Trump's Bullshit all night. 

Talk about the dumbest take possible on this event.  Wow.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Cole didn't mention Trump; but Trump KNEW he was the SUBJECT and denied having anything to do with Epstein 

Yeah, he did know. Do you know why he knew? Because  CTA used every b.s. talking point that you use about Trump. All it says about Trump is that he knows your dumbasṣ talking points.

32 minutes ago, herbie said:

Left wing extreme radical anti-Chrisrtian blah blah blah... enjoy it you'll get plenty more to whine about. 

Are you threatening us? 

[John Stone]

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Pretty much all of that is untrue when you look at it. It's the kind of thing that people who want to hate guns but don't want to look into the issue state

Mass shootings, being any shooting involving four or more people, have been going up mainly due to criminal violence. Gang members shooting gang members, that sort of thing. If you take the number of "crime-related" shootings out of the equations the US isn't actually that bad, and the increases are the same or lower than population growth. 

The problem isn't guns. The problem is there are a number of people usually with mental health issues who have decided it's okay for other people to get killed. They use guns in America because that's what gets the headlines, but lots of people don't use guns and some of the biggest mass killings around the world and America haven't involved any. What's the common denominator between the killings involving guns and the killings involving cars and the killings involving bombs? The killer. That's what needs to be focused on.

And it's the citizens love of guns. The vast majority of guns are purchased either for hunting or other Wildlife Control or for fun. Only a small portion of guns are purchased for self protection and even then rarely out of fear. That's like saying that Automotive Insurance is bought by people that are afraid to drive.

Maybe stop listening to anti-gun propaganda and actually learn about this stuff yourself  a bit

 

Most mass shootings are not gang-related, in fact many databases exclude gang related incidents to enable them to focus on public attacks. 

Research suggests that approx 35 percent of U.S. gun owners use their firearms for hunting purposes. This means that out of the estimated 40 percent of U.S. households that own guns roughly 11 to 14 percent possess firearms intended, at least in part, for hunting.

As of 2025 the U.S. has an estimated 550 million, civilian-owned firearms.

Going forward, some common sense legislation is needed ...... generally the innocent  - the easy targets, will do the suffering. 

Irony is that a lot of those shot own guns and discourage gun laws. 

Gun ownership is a hot button issue in the U.S.,  ............. its a political issue, common sense goes out the window. 

 

Edited April 27 by John Stone

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Starting with the basics - responsible gun ownership is not only about how, where, and when a person uses their firearm; it's also about how store it when not in use. Over 74 percent of Americans support laws that require a person to lock up the firearms in their homes when not in use. 

U one of those so-called, 'nose of the camel', dudes when it comes to gun law reform.........

........... haha

 

The nuber of booze related deaths each year in the us is close to 200k

Number of alcohol-related deaths in the united states - Google Search

But the number of non suicide related gun deaths is only about 19000 according to copilot (16000 to 19000 specifically). 

Sooo  based on your logic why are you not demanding that all booze be locked up when not in use?

 U one of those so-called "ass of the donkey" dudes when it comes to double stanards?  

 

[John Stone]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

The nuber of booze related deaths each year in the us is close to 200k

Number of alcohol-related deaths in the united states - Google Search

But the number of non suicide related gun deaths is only about 19000 according to copilot (16000 to 19000 specifically). 

Sooo  based on your logic why are you not demanding that all booze be locked up when not in use?

 U one of those so-called "ass of the donkey" dudes when it comes to double stanards?  

 

 

......... generally booze isn't designed to kill

[Reg Volk]

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, West said:

Yes lets take a totally unrelated incident politicized by the Democrats to have significant imposition on many people's lives, including farmers and ranchers, and try to apply it to leftists trying to assassinate people. 

Thats really what this is about... leftists are going crazy and killing or attempting to kill people over their policy differences. Sick individuals 

It's those "policy differences" which threaten the lives of thousands of children here and you don't give a crap about that because it doesn't threaten YOU. 🤮

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Most mass shootings are not gang-related, in fact many databases exclude gang related incidents to enable them to focus on public attacks. 

 

Nope. Which is why you couldn't come up with any

.Shootings where somebody just goes out and starts shooting people, which is what most people think of when they're talking about mass shootings, are called 'rampage' shootings and represent only about 2% of the national databases mass shooting numbers

Here's some actual research

Comparison of rampage and non-rampage mass shootings in the U.S.: A 5-year demographic analysis - ScienceDirect

And mass shootings only represent something like one percent of shooting deaths. 

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Research suggests that approx 35 percent of U.S. gun owners use their firearms for hunting purposes. This means that out of the estimated 40 percent of U.S. households that own guns roughly 11 to 14 percent possess firearms intended, at least in part, for hunting.

So obviously people on guns for more than one reason, and seeing as yours is broken down by specific reason it's reasonable to assume that most of the rest are primarily for entertainment instead of hunting. I have no doubt that many people who own guns either for hunting or for entertainment also would say that they would use them for home defense should they need arise but that's not why they bought them.

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As of 2025 the U.S. has an estimated 550 million, civilian-owned firearms.

And?

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Going forward, some common sense legislation is needed .......or not, and the generally the innocent  - the easy targets, will do the suffering. 

It's not even so much that I disagree with you, I mean obviously in Canada we have say storage laws and I generally approve of that. But the problem is that you're getting to this conclusion through just honesty. You haven't demonstrated that there is any such need, you've been slightly dishonest about the facts and figures that you've given to say that there's a problem, nor have you offered any indication as to how any changes would actually impact the bottom line.

And the problem that gun owners in the states legitimately have is that they watch things like that and they think you've got motives that aren't being driven by logic or reason but rather by ideology. And they're not interested in your ideology. I wouldn't be either

 

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Irony is that a lot of those shot own guns and discourage gun laws. 

That's not actually irony. I believe that people should have the right to drive a car with the proper training and licensing, that doesn't mean that if I get run over tomorrow it's irony.

People accept that with freedoms, certain level of risk. We could catch more bad guys if Cops were allowed to search us or listen to our conversations or walk into our house at any time without warrant. But there's problems with that. Freedom it means that there is a certain level of risk. They would be less car accidents if nobody was allowed to own a car and everybody was forced to take public transportation. But is that a world you want to live in. What comes next?

Safe storage laws tend to prevent accidents, they don't actually do much for Crime. I still think they're worth it for that and don't see why guns shouldn't be locked up if they're not in use or in your possession. If you want to carry one for self-defense put it on your belt where you can get at it and deny it to others in a proper holster.

But everybody knows that people like you and the democrats will never be satisfied with reasonable laws. You're not coming at this from a point of view of being fair and reasonable you just don't like guns.

So why on earth would republicans in the states listen to democrats or come to the table to discuss these so-called reasonable regulations knowing damn well that they're just one step closer to losing their firearms?

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

It's those "policy differences" which threaten the lives of thousands of children here and you don't give a crap about that because it doesn't threaten YOU. 🤮

How many people died traversing south and central America because Biden left our borders wide open? How many kids disappeared into America to be sexually exploited because the Biden administration didn't keep track lf them? 

Don't act like US policy is some how worse now than it was under Biden.

Edited April 28 by gatomontes99

[John Johnston]

Hitler, like Trump, was legitimately and democratically elected. Immediately on coming to power in 1933, he began issuing executive decrees and sidelining the parliamentary Reichstag. One of his first orders was the pardon and release of hundreds of his followers who had been jailed for violent attacks on left-wing supporters, for arson, and even for murder.

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, John Stone said:

......... generally booze isn't designed to kill

And guns are? Wow none of mine have killed anybody! And I use them fairly regular! I should take them back and demand a refund considering they're obviously defective   

Guns are designed to shoot bullets. You shoot bullets to hunt, you shoot bullets to have fun because it is an extremely entertaining sport. I'm once in a blue moon people shoot bullets to stop bad guys who intend to hurt them

The gun does not dictate the intent of the shooter

[CdnFox]

Just now, John Johnston said:

Hitler, like Trump, was legitimately and democratically elected.

No he wasn't. He took over when The president, Hindenburg, died. No one elected him to that position. It's like if trump died in JD Vance took over you wouldn't say Katie Vance was elected to be president.

3 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Immediately on coming to power in 1933, he began issuing executive decrees and sidelining the parliamentary Reichstag. One of his first orders was the pardon and release of hundreds of his followers who had been jailed for violent attacks on left-wing supporters, for arson, and even for murder.

Not really.

As usual these are like half truths that are deliberately rewritten to sound more sinister than they are.

My policy is always been if you can't make your point with the whole truth then you have to examine whether or not you got a good point

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, John Stone said:

agreed, kids should be armed - more guns are the answer.🤪

 

Cool.

And your solution might be?

[West]

3 hours ago, John Stone said:

To date there have been approximately 121 mass shootings in the U.S............. with mass shootings steadily increasing in frequency over the past decades. 

Dude, the solution might be political but the problem is National. 

It is not  the citizens love of guns, its the fear of being  shot to death that drives the gun industry..... the industry grooms the fear. Fear, baby ............ u feared? 😄

Outside of the drug cartels and gang bangers, or whacked out left wingers trying to shoot conservatives your argument is misleading

[User]

4 hours ago, John Stone said:

Starting with the basics - responsible gun ownership is not only about how, where, and when a person uses their firearm; it's also about how store it when not in use. Over 74 percent of Americans support laws that require a person to lock up the firearms in their homes when not in use. 

U one of those so-called, 'nose of the camel', dudes when it comes to gun law reform.........

........... haha

 

You started this by trying to use dead kids to make a cheap and bogus political point. 

Now you are pushing general gun control laws. 

No, I do not generally support any laws like these, as they do not take into account any of the nuances of firearm ownership. I am all for safe storage and people should be responsible, but I have yet to see any of these laws written in any such way to be good. 

So, what does any of this have to do with anything?

 

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Cool.

And your solution might be?

They have none other than to hate guns and wish they were all gone. In the meantime, they leave kids to die in gun-free zones.

[User]

3 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Hitler, like Trump, was legitimately and democratically elected. Immediately on coming to power in 1933, he began issuing executive decrees and sidelining the parliamentary Reichstag. One of his first orders was the pardon and release of hundreds of his followers who had been jailed for violent attacks on left-wing supporters, for arson, and even for murder.

This is so fundamentally ignorant of the details... 

Why, it is almost like you dumbed it down on purpose to make a dishonest comparison. 

[Gaétan]

The attack was actually an attempt to save his life, because the path he’s on is leading him to a kind of hell where he’ll be chained to a post, the key thrown into an abyss, tormented by demons, and eventually devoured by a tyrannosaurus. That’s when he would truly lose his life. In reality, it was an act of compassionate attempted murder. Let’s hope he uses the time he has left to repent.

[User]

Just now, Gaétan said:

The attack was actually an attempt to save his life, because the path he’s on is leading him to a kind of hell where he’ll be chained to a post, the key thrown into an abyss, tormented by demons, and eventually devoured by a tyrannosaurus. That’s when he would truly lose his life. In reality, it was an act of compassionate attempted murder. Let’s hope he uses the time he has left to repent.

You would know a lot about hell, since you are a demon working for Satan from there....

[Gaétan]

7 minutes ago, User said:

You would know a lot about hell, 

You bet I know.

The angel I know appeared to me while I was recovering in a hospital and going to the dining room to watch television. It was a female angel. She had the features of an eighteen‑year‑old girl, with brown shoulder‑length hair, and she wore a long blue and red robe down to her ankles. She hovered about a meter above the ground, unaffected by gravity. She had two large brown wings on her back, stretching from the level of her head down to her knees

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Gaétan said:

You bet I know.

The angel I know appeared to me while I was recovering in a hospital and going to the dining room to watch television. It was a female angel. She had the features of an eighteen‑year‑old girl, with brown shoulder‑length hair, and she wore a long blue and red robe down to her ankles. She hovered about a meter above the ground, unaffected by gravity. She had two large brown wings on her back, stretching from the level of her head down to her knees

18, hey? 

Given your support for radical islam, my guess is she was more like 6: prime marrying age for mohammed and his gang.