Left winger radical opens fire at the WH correspondence dinner causing POTUS and FLOTUS to evacuate

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

The attack was actually an attempt to save his life, because the path he’s on is leading him to a kind of hell where he’ll be chained to a post, the key thrown into an abyss, tormented by demons, and eventually devoured by a tyrannosaurus. That’s when he would truly lose his life. In reality, it was an act of compassionate attempted murder. Let’s hope he uses the time he has left to repent.

Do you think that terrorist supporters go to heaven, Gaetan?

Is slitting the throats of babies & raping small children and killing them the path to your "heaven"? 

We both agree on one thing: it's gonna be really warm where you're going. 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, John Johnston said:

Hitler, like Trump, was legitimately and democratically elected. Immediately on coming to power in 1933, he began issuing executive decrees and sidelining the parliamentary Reichstag. One of his first orders was the pardon and release of hundreds of his followers who had been jailed for violent attacks on left-wing supporters, for arson, and even for murder.

IIRC he also outlawed Parties opposed to the Nazi Party after his SECOND election.

Being put in jail after the insurrection when he tried to overthrow his loss for reelection the first time, didn't stop him from winning again; another parallel with Trump

[CDN1]

It's impossible not to notice how radicalized teachers have become while they brazenly upload videos on tiktok with their identies fully exposed.

Hell, you can pay them more...but that whole field needs to be gutted and reformed.

Edited April 28 by CDN1

[gatomontes99]

 

Everyone on the left that talks like the words.in the manifesto are guilty of normalizing violence. 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, User said:

They have none other than to hate guns and wish they were all gone. In the meantime, they leave kids to die in gun-free zones.

And that's the problem...isnt it.

I've argued countless times about gun regulations with Yankees. Its not an argument that can reach a resolution other than, we agree to disagree.

 

 

[User]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

IIRC he also outlawed Parties opposed to the Nazi Party after his SECOND election.

Being put in jail after the insurrection when he tried to overthrow his loss for reelection the first time, didn't stop him from winning again; another parallel with Trump

You are both beyond ignorant. 

[John Stone]

11 hours ago, User said:

You started this by trying to use dead kids to make a cheap and bogus political point. 

Now you are pushing general gun control laws. 

No, I do not generally support any laws like these, as they do not take into account any of the nuances of firearm ownership. I am all for safe storage and people should be responsible, but I have yet to see any of these laws written in any such way to be good. 

So, what does any of this have to do with anything?

 

They have none other than to hate guns and wish they were all gone. In the meantime, they leave kids to die in gun-free zones.

Re: 'So, what does any of this have to do with anything'

What is the common denominator in any shooting?

Re:  "I am all for safe storage and people should be responsible"

Concur. 

[John Stone]

12 hours ago, West said:

Outside of the drug cartels and gang bangers, or whacked out left wingers trying to shoot conservatives your argument is misleading

Please explain

 

[John Stone]

15 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Cool.

And your solution might be?

600 million  firearms complicates things. 

Schools are an extremely soft target - they're also social pressure cookers .... and any mass shooting levers the outrage - they are the perfect targe politically. 

Comprehensive gun legislation is never going to happen ........ political hacks use this divisive issue effectively - gun sales surge, post, any mass shooting. Fear factor? 

So, the only thing that works, is tighter security (armed) and prosecuting the  guardians.

Arming teachers is asinine ........ basically providing the shooter with a weapon. 

[West]

28 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Please explain

 

Its just the statistics on gun violence. School shootings while grabbing the juicy headlines (and happen in Canada as well despite strict gun laws) are not making up the majority of "mass shootings" in the US. Typically the cartels and gangs are making up the vast majority of those statistics 

[Nationalist]

21 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Comprehensive gun legislation is never going to happen ........ political hacks use this divisive issue

Political hacks like...the SCOTUS?

So you propose armed guards at schools?

[John Stone]

10 minutes ago, West said:

Its just the statistics on gun violence. School shootings while grabbing the juicy headlines (and happen in Canada as well despite strict gun laws) are not making up the majority of "mass shootings" in the US. Typically the cartels and gangs are making up the vast majority of those statistics 

Those statistics (gang related) are excluded from 'mass shooting' data bases - they are not part of the calculus.

The US is a gun culture ........ I get it. 

The gun industry rules Congress

The political hacks depend on the support ............. and lets face it, it is a very divisive issue in any 'gun culture'.

Relax ......... there is no chance of comprehensive gun legislation. 

Despite the plethora (and increasing) of mass shooting. 

Lets protect the political hacks ....... schools?-not so much.

A ballroom with a basement akin to a bunker -  hell ya! 

Edited April 28 by John Stone

[John Stone]

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Political hacks like...the SCOTUS?

So you propose armed guards at schools?

If u need a parachute and u don't have one, you'll never need one.

Given the society, social media, the atmosphere in public schools and lack of institutional discipline?

Hell ya.

Armed security will not stop the increasing violence - I would bet on it mitigating the butchers bill. 

Politically tho, the optics are all wrong - are we Israel? 😁 (sarcasm)

Expense - hopefully the other kid will soak one up? 

All that said, protect the political hacks!

hell ya!

[John Stone]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Nope. Which is why you couldn't come up with any

.Shootings where somebody just goes out and starts shooting people, which is what most people think of when they're talking about mass shootings, are called 'rampage' shootings and represent only about 2% of the national databases mass shooting numbers

Here's some actual research

Comparison of rampage and non-rampage mass shootings in the U.S.: A 5-year demographic analysis - ScienceDirect

And mass shootings only represent something like one percent of shooting deaths. 

So obviously people on guns for more than one reason, and seeing as yours is broken down by specific reason it's reasonable to assume that most of the rest are primarily for entertainment instead of hunting. I have no doubt that many people who own guns either for hunting or for entertainment also would say that they would use them for home defense should they need arise but that's not why they bought them.

And?

It's not even so much that I disagree with you, I mean obviously in Canada we have say storage laws and I generally approve of that. But the problem is that you're getting to this conclusion through just honesty. You haven't demonstrated that there is any such need, you've been slightly dishonest about the facts and figures that you've given to say that there's a problem, nor have you offered any indication as to how any changes would actually impact the bottom line.

And the problem that gun owners in the states legitimately have is that they watch things like that and they think you've got motives that aren't being driven by logic or reason but rather by ideology. And they're not interested in your ideology. I wouldn't be either

 

That's not actually irony. I believe that people should have the right to drive a car with the proper training and licensing, that doesn't mean that if I get run over tomorrow it's irony.

People accept that with freedoms, certain level of risk. We could catch more bad guys if Cops were allowed to search us or listen to our conversations or walk into our house at any time without warrant. But there's problems with that. Freedom it means that there is a certain level of risk. They would be less car accidents if nobody was allowed to own a car and everybody was forced to take public transportation. But is that a world you want to live in. What comes next?

Safe storage laws tend to prevent accidents, they don't actually do much for Crime. I still think they're worth it for that and don't see why guns shouldn't be locked up if they're not in use or in your possession. If you want to carry one for self-defense put it on your belt where you can get at it and deny it to others in a proper holster.

But everybody knows that people like you and the democrats will never be satisfied with reasonable laws. You're not coming at this from a point of view of being fair and reasonable you just don't like guns.

So why on earth would republicans in the states listen to democrats or come to the table to discuss these so-called reasonable regulations knowing damn well that they're just one step closer to losing their firearms?

Basically what ur saying is ur p/o the nose-of-the-camel crew. 

The fear factor of legislation-creep Trumps ur willingness to support even minimal gun control legislation?

Is ur stance logical? 

Do u support any degree of gun control legislation?

 

 

[West]

50 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Those statistics (gang related) are excluded from 'mass shooting' data bases - they are not part of the calculus.

The US is a gun culture ........ I get it. 

The gun industry rules Congress

The political hacks depend on the support ............. and lets face it, it is a very divisive issue in any 'gun culture'.

Relax ......... there is no chance of comprehensive gun legislation. 

Despite the plethora (and increasing) of mass shooting. 

Lets protect the political hacks ....... schools?-not so much.

A ballroom with a basement akin to a bunker -  hell ya! 

I've looked ad nauseum at the gun violence statistics in the United States as this isnt my first rodeo in discussing such a thing. 

Leftists are largely misleading when discussing the issue conflating a bunch of different issues including gang violence and suicides for political talking points which inflate the numbers

 

Edited April 28 by West

[John Stone]

3 minutes ago, West said:

I've looked ad nauseum at the gun violence statistics in the United States as this isnt my first rodeo in discussing such a thing. 

Leftists are largely misleading when discussing the issue conflating a bunch of different issues including gang violence and suicides for political talking points which inflate the numbers

 

............ was Sandy Hook gang related. 

20 kids shot to death........... and that was years ago. 

Standby to keep hearing ad nauseum of mass shootings - sans gang flavor. 

It normalized. 

[Nationalist]

26 minutes ago, John Stone said:

If u need a parachute and u don't have one, you'll never need one.

Given the society, social media, the atmosphere in public schools and lack of institutional discipline?

Hell ya.

Armed security will not stop the increasing violence - I would bet on it mitigating the butchers bill. 

Politically tho, the optics are all wrong - are we Israel? 😁 (sarcasm)

Expense - hopefully the other kid will soak one up? 

All that said, protect the political hacks!

hell ya!

So...here's a "curveball" for ya.

Lyndon Johnson ushered in huge welfare projects all supposedly to be compassionate towards black Americans.  But Johnson was about as blatantly racist as they come and interestingly enough, his "Great Society" created the ghettos. Created dependence on welfare. The ghettos quickly became war zones. Crime-ridden communities where the criminal was and still is glorified.

Now...we see the murder and gun violence in the streets...we see the political discourse on the verge of becoming a physical war...we see mobs actually attacking police to protect millions of criminals welcomed by Brandon and the Libbies. 

Do you think, under these circumstances, that the average middle class American is willing to give up his/ her guns?

Or buy more?

[West]

31 minutes ago, John Stone said:

............ was Sandy Hook gang related. 

20 kids shot to death........... and that was years ago. 

Standby to keep hearing ad nauseum of mass shootings - sans gang flavor. 

It normalized. 

Sandy Hook was a tragedy no doubt. 

I don't see what blaming hunters or gun collectors has to do with that tho

[User]

2 hours ago, John Stone said:

Re: 'So, what does any of this have to do with anything'

What is the common denominator in any shooting?

Re:  "I am all for safe storage and people should be responsible"

Concur. 

Except that isn’t the common denominator at all as school shootings still occur with legally purchased and/or stolen weapons that have nothing to do with safe storage…

 

39 minutes ago, John Stone said:

............ was Sandy Hook gang related. 

20 kids shot to death........... and that was years ago. 

Standby to keep hearing ad nauseum of mass shootings - sans gang flavor. 

It normalized. 

Yes… it is a social contagion here now. 
 

Why did you bring it up? 

[User]

1 hour ago, John Stone said:

Basically what ur saying is ur p/o the nose-of-the-camel crew. 

The fear factor of legislation-creep Trumps ur willingness to support even minimal gun control legislation?

Is ur stance logical? 

Do u support any degree of gun control legislation?

 

 

Do you support the 2nd Amendment, individual firearm ownership?

 

[West]

49 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

So...here's a "curveball" for ya.

Lyndon Johnson ushered in huge welfare projects all supposedly to be compassionate towards black Americans.  But Johnson was about as blatantly racist as they come and interestingly enough, his "Great Society" created the ghettos. Created dependence on welfare. The ghettos quickly became war zones. Crime-ridden communities where the criminal was and still is glorified.

Now...we see the murder and gun violence in the streets...we see the political discourse on the verge of becoming a physical war...we see mobs actually attacking police to protect millions of criminals welcomed by Brandon and the Libbies. 

Do you think, under these circumstances, that the average middle class American is willing to give up his/ her guns?

Or buy more?

Certainly the Democrat party has made a conscious effort to tie themselves to people who rap about sexually molesting women and gangsta lifestyle. 

Yet blame Republicans in the mid west for wanting to hunt or go to the gun range for the issues. 

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, West said:

Certainly the Democrat party has made a conscious effort to tie themselves to people who rap about sexually molesting women and gangsta lifestyle. 

Yet blame Republicans in the mid west for wanting to hunt or go to the gun range for the issues. 

Of course.

Racism and social destruction...disguised as compassion.

[Fluffypants]

I watched the video of the sad excuse for an assassin and I thought this dude thinks he is the star of an action movie and that movie physics are real and he was like John Wick.

[Legato]

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, robosmith said:

IIRC he also outlawed Parties opposed to the Nazi Party after his SECOND election.

Being put in jail after the insurrection when he tried to overthrow his loss for reelection the first time, didn't stop him from winning again; another parallel with Trump

Print that and take it with you the next time you go to see your therapist. They can't help you unless they know how truly unstable and m0ronic you are.