Another Conservative Defects to Carney

[herbie]

Never been so many floor crossings. Carney's obviously showing that he CAN and he is.
The actual Conservative Loyal Opposition is abandoning the sinking ship
 

[Legato]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The fear again.

[Legato]

 

[Venandi]

 

8 hours ago, Legato said:

 

My sentiments exactly, thanks for the video.

Despite YUK YUKs, HA HAs, and LOLs from Flybaby, this is the floor crossing that I'll be following... my interest here is purely tactical.

As I said earlier:

"I wouldn't discount the fact that some of these folks may have ulterior motives and see themselves as serving their last parliamentary stint."

- Especially in her case.

- It's not even close, she won't be getting elected in that riding again and she knows it.

I'd love to know what the backroom deals were.

- Using an evolutionary analogy, this is the equivalent of a fish evolving into a horse a week after washing up on shore... I simply don't believe it. 

- We'll find out eventually and when we do Flybaby rhetoric will sound something like this:

YUK YUK YUK.

HA HA HA.

LOL LOL LOL,

Old news loser, get over it, you lost. LMAO.

YUK YUK YUK.

- which is exactly why there will be zero sympathy from conservatives (or even moderates) when a scenario like this plays out in reverse... and it will.

I think Liberals are breaking new ground here and when that choke gets reversed they'll tap early. There's a Canadian Trump out there somewhere and all it's going to take to find him is more abysmally bad performance and some additional YUK YUKs delivered with the sort of arrogance on display here now. 

 

Edited April 9 by Venandi

[Barquentine]

20 hours ago, I am Groot said:

For her to now cross to the Liberals is such gobsmacking hypocrisy that we can only wonder how much she was offered. Because she obviously doesn't give a damn about her constituents. She's been offered something, guarantees made.

This one does seem like an opportunist. But not because she was offered something. She clearly doesn't want to spend 7 more years in opposition.

But after 4 defections, it's time for the Cons to start asking why and make the necessary changes.

If they can't do that they might as well break apart - back to the Cons and Reform party, 'cause their coalition just ain't workin'.

[Goddess]

She didn't even tell her EDA she was leaving.

I highly doubt she consulted with her constituents.

[Queenmandy85]

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Edited April 10 by Queenmandy85

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Pierre wants to take away a Member of the House of Commens autonomy to make decicions to benefit their constituents. 

This doesn't make sense.

Sarnia is a manufacturing hub.  The Conservatives are FOR manufacturing.  The Liberals are AGAINST it.  It's why Sarnia has voted Conservative for the last 20 years, even during the last 11 Liberal years.  And not by a small margin - they've voted Conservative by large margins.

Edited April 9 by Goddess

[Queenmandy85]

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

This doesn't make sense.

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[I am Groot]

On 4/8/2026 at 6:06 PM, Moonbox said:

 

I have to say this meme pic illustrates a lot of why so many people who consider themselves 'cool' mock and jeer at Poilievre. It's not his policies. It's not their presentation. It's his looks. People sneered at him because he wore thick plastic glasses, because he had that slicked back hair like a 1950s accountant, because he wasn't tall and muscular enough. They wallowed in the coolness of Justin Trudeau even as he half destroyed the country, sneering at Poilievre because he didn't look hot and sexy. Yes, it IS that shallow. Don't believe me? Every single time someone wants to mock him they show an older picture of him in glasses with his hair combed back.

He's a geek, a nerd, not 'one of us cool guys'. 

Policies? Who gives a damn. We care about coolness.  Now we have the INTERNATIONALLY ADMIRED (OMG!) <people squealing like little girls> ECONOMISTS with such a wonderful resume! Look how sophisticated he is! Look how impressive other people in other countries find him!

Sure, nothing has improved since he got elected. In fact, everything's gotten worse. Look at all those international leaders he's meeting with! Canadians and their incredible, notorious inferiority complex that gets a hard-on every time someone else in the world mentions us favourably can't get enough of this guy. The boomers are finally able to masturbate again! 

Policies? Who gives a damn!

Poilevre? What a dweeb! LOL! Four eyes! Millhouse! LOL! He's not cool! We need someone COOL! Never mind if he's smart or honest or has policies to help us! That's just not our priority!

46 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

We elect our MP to make decisions on our behalf. We do not elect a political party.

You know that's absolute bullshit, right? Most people don't even know the name of their MP. They vote for the colour.

On 4/8/2026 at 12:41 PM, BeaverFever said:

So just how many horrible despicable people like her and the other floor crossers are there in the Conservative Party and who should be held accountable for letting them in and letting them run as candidates?

Have you looked at the candidates Carny is running in the current byelectons?

[Queenmandy85]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

You know that's absolute bullshit, right? Most people don't even know the name of their MP. They vote for the colour.

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9 hours ago, Goddess said:

The Liberals are AGAINST it

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Edited April 10 by Queenmandy85

[LinkSoul60]

The Toronto Star reported that up to 40 Conservative MP's are worried that Poilievre will cost them their seats in the next federal election.  Wonder how many will cross the floor this weekend?

Poilievre is a dead man walking....  

[Goddess]

Interview with Gladu in the Sarnia Observer.

She effectively admits that Liberals don't work for all Canadians, only for those in Liberal ridings.  Which is exactly what both Adam Vaughn and Pam Damoff said during the 2019 election campaign.

Vaughan said that cities that “vote Liberal” would be better positioned to receive federal housing money, because the Liberal government needed “partners” at the municipal level.

Damoff said that municipalities would have an easier time securing federal funding if they “worked with” their Liberal MP, and critics argued this implied that electing a Liberal representative would improve access to federal money.

 

 

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The Toronto Star reported that up to 40 Conservative MP's are worried that Poilievre will cost them their seats in the next federal election.  Wonder how many will cross the floor this weekend?

Poilievre is a dead man walking....  

"Two Insiders"

Were they Marilyn Gladu & Michael Ma?

It's hard to take you seriously when you're this susceptible to government propaganda and so politically biased that you cannot ever criticize the Liberals.  Ever.

I see a concerted effort by the Liberal party to demoralize both the Conservative base and voters in general.

[WestCanMan]

On 4/8/2026 at 12:08 PM, herbie said:

We know how changing your mind regardless of new evidence, changing situations, etc. is verbotten among New 'conservatives'...  double down black is white - black must always be white!

The Libs and Dems are the two parties in NA that vote as a bloc, and attack what few non-conformists they have. 

Trudeau didn't tolerate non-conformists at all in the LPoC. The second anyone went against him on anything, they were just out. Back-benchers had no choice but vote along party lines. 

When Fetterman's mental health was in serious question, because he couldn't speak very well and couldn't even understand the spoken word correctly - so he even had to have English words put onto a teleprompter in front of him - leftists dismissed all concerns about his mental health out-of-hand, and said in unison that he was perfectly fine, and that everyone should vote for him. 

Now that his speaking has drastically improved, and he no longer needs a teleprompter to help him understand English, he's suddenly "mentally unfit", just because he doesn't toe the party line anymore. Alt-leftists in the DNC are asking for him to resign or be removed from the party just because he occasionally shows bipartisan support. 

Let me refresh your memories:

• just had a stroke, couldn't speak properly, and needed a teleprompter to understand English: 100% fine, according to Dems
• years into recovery, speaking clearly, able to understand English: "MENTALLY UNFIT!!!!!! NEEDS TO RESIGN!!!!! SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE PARTY!!!!!!", all just for voting for things that Americans are in favour of... Things that Americans voted for.

The left isn't just a cult, it's a sick, disgusting, vile cult, that can look past "like" clicks on FB posts that show support for terrorist attacks involving raped & murdered women and burned children, but have no tolerance whatsoever for their own senators voting for things that the American public voted for. 

[CdnFox]

On 4/8/2026 at 8:18 AM, LinkSoul60 said:

Her constituents want serious leadership and a real plan, something that sound-bite Pete can't provide.  5 floor crossers now and betting more to come.  Well played Poilievre....

She said this past year has been like no other that Canada has ever faced, and she's "heard clearly from constituents that you want serious leadership and a real plan to build a stronger and more independent Canadian economy."

Her constituents are outside our office right now threatening to burn it down

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The Toronto Star reported that up to 40 Conservative MP's are worried that Poilievre will cost them their seats in the next federal election.  Wonder how many will cross the floor this weekend?

Poilievre is a dead man walking....  

Yeah that's a load of crap.

But I'm sure a number of them are worried that they will not get to be a majority government. They feel the liberals have outplayed the conservatives and they are worried that they will spend four more years in opposition only to lose again in the future. 

So they're crossing the floor to a greener pasture where they'll make far more money and actually have a little bit of power. I still think that's detestable but one can see how someone could be lured by the prospect of almost double pay and being able to get something done

 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The Libs and Dems are the two parties in NA that vote as a bloc, and attack what few non-conformists they have. 

Trudeau didn't tolerate non-conformists at all in the LPoC. The second anyone went against him on anything, they were just out. Back-benchers had no choice but vote along party lines. 

When Fetterman's mental health was in serious question, because he couldn't speak very well and couldn't even understand the spoken word correctly - so he even had to have English words put onto a teleprompter in front of him - leftists dismissed all concerns about his mental health out-of-hand, and said in unison that he was perfectly fine, and that everyone should vote for him. 

Now that his speaking has drastically improved, and he no longer needs a teleprompter to help him understand English, he's suddenly "mentally unfit", just because he doesn't toe the party line anymore. Alt-leftists in the DNC are asking for him to resign or be removed from the party just because he occasionally shows bipartisan support. 

Let me refresh your memories:

• just had a stroke, couldn't speak properly, and needed a teleprompter to understand English: 100% fine, according to Dems
• years into recovery, speaking clearly, able to understand English: "MENTALLY UNFIT!!!!!! NEEDS TO RESIGN!!!!! SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE PARTY!!!!!!", all just for voting for things that Americans are in favour of... Things that Americans voted for.

The left isn't just a cult, it's a sick, disgusting, vile cult, that can look past "like" clicks on FB posts that show support for terrorist attacks involving raped & murdered women and burned children, but have no tolerance whatsoever for their own senators voting for things that the American public voted for. 

That's all well and good but at the end of the day if poilievre loses even one more person I think he's done.

Either you can hold your caucus together or you can't, and even though I feel he would make the best prime minister by far if he can't motivate his caucus to stay with him then he has to go.

I think that'll be a Tragedy but at the end of the day it is what it is. The leader has one primary job and that's to recruit and keep a good caucus and right now he's bleeding. He basically let carney take a majority government that he didn't earn.

How disgusting the left is till the cows come home but we have to win or else nothing changes. And we're not going to win with the leaders bleeding caucus support. Anything else we could have cope with but if people are crossing the floor that's a problem

[Goddess]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But I'm sure a number of them are worried that they will not get to be a majority government. They feel the liberals have outplayed the conservatives and they are worried that they will spend four more years in opposition only to lose again in the future. 

Interesting.  it does seem that politics with the Liberals is like the TV show "Survivor" - Outwit, Outlast, Outplay.  It doesn't have anything to do with governing effectively.  And Liberal supporters seem to like it that way - look at all the ones here who can't explain a policy's pros & cons, don't even know what the policies are, have no clue about what Bills are being presented, don't give a crap about what's going on in the country......just really excited to wave that big puffy "We're #1" finger.

I fear you are right about the Conservatives never having a chance against it and that they need to also play dirty.

I hope our democracy doesn't devolve to that level, but that's definitely the way it's heading.

Liberal platform seems to be nothing more than, "Say whatever we need to say to get elected, then stuff our pockets with money and ignore the country when we get in."

 

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

I see a concerted effort by the Liberal party to demoralize both the Conservative base and voters in general.

The liberals didn't need to do anything.  Poilievre has clearly done a good enough job of demoralizing the Conservative base on his own.

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That's all well and good but at the end of the day if poilievre loses even one more person I think he's done.

Either you can hold your caucus together or you can't, and even though I feel he would make the best prime minister by far if he can't motivate his caucus to stay with him then he has to go.

I think that'll be a Tragedy but at the end of the day it is what it is. The leader has one primary job and that's to recruit and keep a good caucus and right now he's bleeding. He basically let carney take a majority government that he didn't earn.

How disgusting the left is till the cows come home but we have to win or else nothing changes. And we're not going to win with the leaders bleeding caucus support. Anything else we could have cope with but if people are crossing the floor that's a problem

No doubt CBC will turn this into a crusade against Poilievre, they fear him greatly. 

I don't have an ounce of quit in me. It's Poilievre, 100.00%.

[LinkSoul60]

43 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Her constituents are outside our office right now threatening to burn it down

Yeah that's a load of crap.

But I'm sure a number of them are worried that they will not get to be a majority government. They feel the liberals have outplayed the conservatives and they are worried that they will spend four more years in opposition only to lose again in the future. 

So they're crossing the floor to a greener pasture where they'll make far more money and actually have a little bit of power. I still think that's detestable but one can see how someone could be lured by the prospect of almost double pay and being able to get something done

 

You clowns are hilarious...  ya'll only got one mode and that's blaming fake news and everyone else for your shortcomings.

Try looking inside as to why conservative MP's are crossing the aisle...  Your guy is a dead man walking.

[Legato]

9 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You clowns are hilarious...  ya'll only got one mode and that's blaming fake news and everyone else for your shortcomings.

Try looking inside as to why conservative MP's are crossing the aisle...  Your guy is a dead man walking.

 

Edited April 10 by Legato

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Interesting.  it does seem that politics with the Liberals is like the TV show "Survivor" - Outwit, Outlast, Outplay.  It doesn't have anything to do with governing effectively.  And Liberal supporters seem to like it that way - look at all the ones here who can't explain a policy's pros & cons, don't even know what the policies are, have no clue about what Bills are being presented, don't give a crap about what's going on in the country......just really excited to wave that big puffy "We're #1" finger.

I fear you are right about the Conservatives never having a chance against it and that they need to also play dirty.

I hope our democracy doesn't devolve to that level, but that's definitely the way it's heading.

Liberal platform seems to be nothing more than, "Say whatever we need to say to get elected, then stuff our pockets with money and ignore the country when we get in."

 

One of the fundamental problems with democratic representation is that all too often the public forgets with their job is and puts blinders on and that is definitely what has happened with the left these days

I'm reminded of a scene from The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

I'ts a planet ruled by lizards and the lizards are very mean to the humans. 

Wait  i thought you said it was a democracy?

It is. 

They why the hell do they keep voting in the lizards?

Because if they don't the WRONG lizard might get in. 

[ExFlyer]

On 4/8/2026 at 9:22 PM, Legato said:

The fear again.

What fear? fear of what??

[ExFlyer]

On 4/9/2026 at 6:46 AM, Venandi said:

 

My sentiments exactly, thanks for the video.

Despite YUK YUKs, HA HAs, and LOLs from Flybaby, this is the floor crossing that I'll be following... my interest here is purely tactical.

As I said earlier:

"I wouldn't discount the fact that some of these folks may have ulterior motives and see themselves as serving their last parliamentary stint."

- Especially in her case.

- It's not even close, she won't be getting elected in that riding again and she knows it.

I'd love to know what the backroom deals were.

- Using an evolutionary analogy, this is the equivalent of a fish evolving into a horse a week after washing up on shore... I simply don't believe it. 

- We'll find out eventually and when we do Flybaby rhetoric will sound something like this:

YUK YUK YUK.

HA HA HA.

LOL LOL LOL,

Old news loser, get over it, you lost. LMAO.

YUK YUK YUK.

- which is exactly why there will be zero sympathy from conservatives (or even moderates) when a scenario like this plays out in reverse... and it will.

I think Liberals are breaking new ground here and when that choke gets reversed they'll tap early. There's a Canadian Trump out there somewhere and all it's going to take to find him is more abysmally bad performance and some additional YUK YUKs delivered with the sort of arrogance on display here now. 

 

Well...seems that when given the opportunity to prevent floor crossing...your hero PP, amongst others, voted against it and now you whine???