Trump threatens to wipe out a civilization tonight.

[Moonbox]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Think about it: the choices are - kill millions or look like a wimp.

The choice is easy for some

There's another option:

Move the goalposts and requalify all of your previous statements.  Trump will drop a few more bombs and knock out a couple of installations, and then tell everyone it was the most biggest and baddest bombing campaign in military history and that Iran has been completely "neutralized".

The Ayatollah's son taking over after his assassination counts as "regime change", so why can't a few extra bombs overnight count as utter annhilation?  Words don't actually mean anything specific in MAGA clownworld.  

[CITIZEN_2015]

4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I wonder how @CITIZEN_2015 thinks Trump killing an entire civilization is going to free the Iranian people?   

The Islamic republic already killed a 2500 year civilization in 1979. As for Trump he talks a lot and bluffs a lot trying to scare these barbarians into submission not knowing that these people believe if they die they will spent time with virgins till eternity and won't be scared of death. By bombing Iran's infrastructure he proves his stupidity at old age as till now he has the support of Iran's nation but there is a limit to that. He will lose the support he enjoys among Iranians but he is only bluffing and his advisors won't allow him to destroy Iran's power plants and energy. Instead he must target the regime leaders and security forces much more and kill them all and bring about a regime change and peace to the world.

[TreeBeard]

10 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

The Islamic republic already killed a 2500 year civilization in 1979. As for Trump he talks a lot and bluffs a lot trying to scare these barbarians into submission not knowing that these people believe if they die they will spent time with virgins till eternity and won't be scared of death. By bombing Iran's infrastructure he proves his stupidity at old age as till now he has the support of Iran's nation but there is a limit to that. He will lose the support he enjoys among Iranians but he is only bluffing and his advisors won't allow him to destroy Iran's power plants and energy. Instead he must target the regime leaders and security forces much more and kill them all and bring about a regime change and peace to the world.

Good to see you still have faith in your great orange saviour. 

[paxamericana]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Think about it: the choices are - kill millions or look like a wimp.

The choice is easy for some

I don’t think you deadbeats understand America’s real interest. We’re in the business of country smashing, we are not nation building. It’s in the petrol dollar interest that the entire Middle East blows it self up. If Iran want to destroy their neighbors to lash out then good, they’re doing America’s job for us. There is no leverage on America for Iran to make a deal. Trump is only entertaining it for the euro deadbeat’s interest, out of the kindness of his big American heart. Ingratitude won’t help you deadbeats.

It’s America that is holding Iran hostage.

Oh and save me your moral indignation, I know where you’re going to invest your money at the end of the day.

Edited April 7 by paxamericana

[Nationalist]

47 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

I don’t think you deadbeats understand America’s real interest. We’re in the business of country smashing, we are not nation building. It’s in the petrol dollar interest that the entire Middle East blows it self up. If Iran want to destroy their neighbors to lash out then good, they’re doing America’s job for us. There is no leverage on America for Iran to make a deal. Trump is only entertaining it for the euro deadbeat’s interest, out of the kindness of his big American heart. Ingratitude won’t help you deadbeats.

It’s America that is holding Iran hostage.

Oh and save me your moral indignation, I know where you’re going to invest your money at the end of the day.

Interestingly enough...I dont think you understand Trump. He just suspended US bombing for 2 weeks.

Trump is pushing 90 years old. He's a grandpa'. He has no desire to totally smash anyone. He made a gross threat to end the Persian civilization...and someone...the Iranians, Trump maybe...blinked.

However...IF Trump can extricate the US from this...attack, and get oil flowing again, he can get the prices dropping visibly by the mid-terms.

Then there's always the possibility that any "deals" with the Iranians, could all be worthless. I mean...we're talking about Iranian Muslim zealots here. I seriously doubt they can be trusted even as much as the USA.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And if he does...so what?

Who will miss them?

Of course you believe the same about all the CHILDREN killed in Africa by the destruction of USAID. 🤮

Because you are heartless and despicable.

Quote

Based on reporting and modeling from 2025–2026, the suspension and restructuring of United States Agency for International Development (USAID) funding by the Trump administration and Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has led to significant loss of life in Africa, with researchers estimating that hundreds of thousands of people, including a majority of children, have died as a result. [1, 2]

Impact on Children in Africa

• Death Toll Estimates: Independent modeling, including data from the ImpactCounter dashboard and academic researchers, estimated that by mid-2025, over 300,000 people had died worldwide due to the cuts, with estimates growing to over 500,000 children dying within the first year of the USAID cuts.
• Specific Regions Affected: Significant mortality has been reported in nations heavily dependent on aid, including Nigeria, Somalia, Ethiopia, Sudan, and Kenya.
• Malnutrition Crisis: The abrupt ending of USAID-funded programs (such as those run by Mercy Corps) that provided therapeutic food to malnourished children has resulted in direct child deaths. For instance, in Dikwa, Nigeria, a mother reported the death of her twin child two weeks after the program was halted.
• Preventable Illnesses: The cuts have crippled programs treating pneumonia, diarrhea, and malaria, which are leading causes of child mortality, resulting in over 164,000 additional child deaths from pneumonia alone. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Factors Contributing to Mortality

• Termination of Therapeutic Programs: USAID previously financed 50% of therapeutic foods used to treat malnutrition globally, and many of these programs were cut, halting the supply of calorie-dense paste.
• Healthcare System Collapse: In regions like northeast Nigeria, the halt in funding has led to a collapse in local healthcare infrastructure, with hospitals overwhelmed by malnourished children and lacking resources.
• HIV/AIDS Treatment Disruption: The suspension of PEPFAR (President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief) funding, a major component of US global health aid, has threatened thousands of HIV-positive children in sub-Saharan Africa who require consistent, funded medication. [1, 2, 3]

Long-Term Consequences
Research published in The Lancet and by UCLA researchers projects that if these cuts continue, up to 14 million additional, primarily pediatric deaths, could occur by 2030, potentially reversing over 20 years of child mortality reduction in Africa.

 

[paxamericana]

26 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

suspended US bombing for 2 weeks.

No the damage has already been done. Gulf state production is already damaged and lost pre war capacity.  Even if the fighting stops today. It’ll take at least a few years to bring production capacity back to pre war levels. The smashing has already occurred. The question is wether or not it gets worse and for how long.

Edited April 7 by paxamericana

[Nationalist]

Just now, robosmith said:

Of course you believe the same about all the CHILDREN killed in Africa by the destruction of USAID. 🤮

Because you are heartless and despicable.

 

Cry me a fckin' river Sweetie.

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Cry me a fckin' river Sweetie.

Like I said, ^DESPICABLE. Thanks for proving it.

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

No the damage has already been done. Gulf state production is already damaged and lost pre war capacity.  Even if the fighting stops today. It’ll take at least a few years to bring production capacity back to pre war levels

It might...

[TreeBeard]

41 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

IF Trump can extricate the US from this...attack, and get oil flowing again, he can get the prices dropping visibly by the mid-terms.

Are people so stupid that they would give credit for lowering gas prices to the person responsible for increasing them in the first place?

 

 (I concede that the conservatives on this forum may be the exception in that regard)

[herbie]

It's TACO Tuesday so we'll see tonight.

He hasn't the guts to risk a handful of casualties and actually hurt the IRG by taking Karg Island. Every other length to distract from the Epstien files is OK though. Already lined up the next one: Cuba 

Edited April 8 by herbie

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Are people so stupid that they would give credit for lowering gas prices to the person responsible for increasing them in the first place?

 

 (I concede that the conservatives on this forum may be the exception in that regard)

I wouldn't expect you TDS infected to...but the rest? You already know the answer to that.

[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

It's TACO Tuesday so we'll see tonight.

He hasn't the guts to risk a handful of casualties and actually hurt the IRG by taking Karg Island. Every other length to distract from the Epstien files is OK though. Already lined up the next one: Cuba 

He TACO’ed again. Instead of destroying Iran, he stopped bombing them.  Progress, I guess. 

[paxamericana]

3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I concede that the conservatives on this forum may be the exception in that regard)

And yet there's statistically more anti-trump ideots who would rather cut off their nose to spite their face. With the election of Carney, Canada has no shortage in that department does it.

Edited April 8 by paxamericana

[bush_cheney2004]

10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Think about it: the choices are - kill millions or look like a wimp.

The choice is easy for some

 

Well, not millions, but I get your point.   The easy choice is not what American presidents are elected to do...they are expected to make the harder choice, no matter how difficult it is.   And it is a hard choice even for Trump, believe it or not.

[John Stone]

Relax ............ although he does control the nuke-codes there are guard rails, right?

RIGHT????

[herbie]

13 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

He TACO’ed again. Instead of destroying Iran, he stopped bombing them.  Progress, I guess. 

The Orange Fool is being played like a fiddle and his true believers accept his word that a 2 week ceasefire is a great victory..... duh!

2 weeks should be used to enact the 25th Amendment and release the entire Epstein files. Don't worry MAGAts the 25th would also keep him out of jail under the American version of Canada's NCR laws.

[Fluffypants]

No matter what he did you would find issue with it. If we are able to take out Iran to a point that they kick out the zealots and they become and more secular nation, the world would be a better place. All those terrorists they fund would whither and die without their funding.

[CITIZEN_2015]

The only permanent solution to all of problems is a regime change in Iran. Remove this cancerous organ before it spreads and kills the entire civilization. Bite the bullet and pay a high price for oil for a few months and a few thousand casualties and then save the entire civilization for centuries to come.

[John Stone]

6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

The only permanent solution to all of problems is a regime change in Iran. Remove this cancerous organ before it spreads and kills the entire civilization. Bite the bullet and pay a high price for oil for a few months and a few thousand casualties and then save the entire civilization for centuries to come.

"Bite the bullet and pay a high price for oil for a few months and a few thousand casualties and then save the entire civilization for centuries to come"

haha 

A few thousand casualties?

 Cut to the chase - nuke Tehran  be - bold

In for a penny in for a pound? 

[TreeBeard]

22 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

 

The only permanent solution to all of problems is a regime change in Iran.

 

Trump and Vance are no longer interested in regime change.  They changed the goalposts to phantom nukes. 
 

So to recap:  the war just made the regime more hardline and probably worse for the people living there.