Army Guy Posted April 9 Author Report Posted April 9 1 hour ago, herbie said: I remember many of my parent's friends who always voted Conservative because they were worried what the Americans would do. F-ck them. Time to back a guy who'll moving our economy so we don't think like that anymore. Trump's made it cleat enough is enough, dumb enough to make the threats out loud and think we're scared of him. He won't even make it his whole term. Just keep delaying the new CUSMA agreement until he's in jail or buried under ground, That's what i would do, rest the fate of our economy to wishful thinking...I'm sure that is in the economics 101 hand book...makes sense now....you read the lefts hand out....good for you... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted April 9 Author Report Posted April 9 4 hours ago, eyeball said: Laugh at Trump as he tries to convince an increasingly angry and broke US electorate that the tariffs are actually making them richer. And we should certainly look at export controls to rub the cost of Trump's trade war even harder in America's nose. Semper fi You can laugh all you want, we can all laugh or cry together when he tariffs everything we trade with them....but you voted for the left right...., we can always eat grass and dried bugs right...we will still have our pride....we can sing songs like F trump, and that will fill our bellies.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
herbie Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 31 minutes ago, Army Guy said: That's what i would do, rest the fate of our economy to wishful thinking You dismiss Carney;s entire policy as wishful thinking? 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 26 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Why do we need the US to explain anything to US...well we do 80 % of our trade with them, we need them more than they need us....Yes we are antagonizing them , they clearly stated that they did not want any Chinese cars to be sold in north America...not by us and not by Mexico.... It's the other way around... we were the ones who were provoked which is why we looked to China and that opportunity. Mexico sells over 300K Chinese vehicles. Obviously Trump doesn't want us building cars...we need to look at other options, not roll over. 35 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Chinese autos are not part of the NA auto industry....sorry...ask Ontario or Canadas Auto union if they want Chinese cars ? they have said clear NO fing way....the industry has been heavily damaged and we want to give more away....is that good economics ? The unions will want to build cars from any country if they're not building them for US companies. I'm sure that if a vehicle can be built to Chinese manufacturer spec using Canadian made parts and labor nobody is going to have a problem with that. Not sure what the chances of that happening might be though... 41 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Your not in charge, the liberals think it is a good idea, but they are not in charge either, the terms will be laid out by the US, or they will leave CUSMA leaving Canada with a full bag of tariffs on everything..... So ya if you think Canada has any control it is because the US gave it to us , pissing them off before Cusma is signed, is not a good idea........we will see how that works out come time to settle CUSMA.... I'm glad you or anyone who thinks alike is negotiating this, or anything else for us. So what if it's uncomfortable...that's part of negotiating. The #1 rule though is to not bend over willingly as you suggest we do... 47 minutes ago, Army Guy said: 'm not my opinion, that is todays reality, that while this president is in charge, he will get his way or destroy everything in his path....Canada will bow to him come Cusma, or lose everything......even Carney the touted master negotiator will not get his way on these issues...Carney does not hold all the cards and the ones he has can be replaced by another nation... Clearly we're not bowing to him, or a deal would be done right? Of course we don't hold all the cards, but we do have a pretty good hand that is playing well right now with the cost of living pressures Trump is facing from his constituents. Don't forget the fact the US relies on us as both a customer and supplier... 1 Quote
eyeball Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: You can laugh all you want, we can all laugh or cry together when he tariffs everything we trade with them.. So what when he's got tariffs on everyone and everything in sight? 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: .but you voted for the left right... Uh huh, what's that got to do with anything? 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: ...we can always eat grass and dried bugs right...we will still have our pride....we can sing songs like F trump, and that will fill our bellies.... Whatever floats your boat I guess. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 13 hours ago, eyeball said: They irony is that American manufactures got tired of paying the wages American workers expected. As well as wages for Canadian workers. 1 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Barquentine Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 17 hours ago, Goddess said: These cars aren't going to be "built" in Canada. They are "assembled." Like IKEA furniture. That's how all North American auto factories work. AI: "Parts for American auto manufacturing primarily come from a tightly integrated North American supply chain, with Mexico being the largest source of imported parts ($81 billion in 2023), followed by Canada. Significant components also come from Japan, South Korea, and China, especially for electronics and specialized materials." 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 23 hours ago, paxamericana said: Did Biden remove those tariff on Canadian steel and aluminum? Did he? Was Biden president February-March 2025? 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 17 hours ago, Goddess said: These cars aren't going to be "built" in Canada. They are "assembled." Like IKEA furniture. And they do it the Chinese way. ......... You mean like all other vehicles "made in Canada"? And do it the American way? Or the Japanese way? 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
herbie Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 Either all cars fully built in N America with N American parts can be traded without duties or tariffs or NO 'DEAL'. 'Assembled' or fully imported cars within each country are subject to the rules of that country. Won't have some demented foreigner telling me what cat I "may" buy. And strop talking about trade deals, they're agreements. Deal is a word Trump loves that mean only he benefits, he doesn't give a shit about anyone else, including the American people. Quote
Moonbox Posted April 9 Report Posted April 9 15 hours ago, Army Guy said: Regardless of who YOU or the liberal party think of the president of the US, the fact remains is they are the big dog in the street, and if you F around you lay around....we need them more than they need us....I don't know why i have to explain that to someone that claims to be an economic guy.. Because you're not explaining an economic concept, genius. You're telling us that the weaker party needs to bend over and accept whatever the stronger party demands. Most dads teach their kids this is a bad idea at a young age. You don't need a university education to know that, but because you've become such a blind, thoughtless partisan, you're advocating for a stance that I'd bet money you taught your kids was bad idea. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted April 10 Author Report Posted April 10 22 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: It's the other way around... we were the ones who were provoked which is why we looked to China and that opportunity. Mexico sells over 300K Chinese vehicles. Obviously Trump doesn't want us building cars...we need to look at other options, not roll over. The unions will want to build cars from any country if they're not building them for US companies. I'm sure that if a vehicle can be built to Chinese manufacturer spec using Canadian made parts and labor nobody is going to have a problem with that. Not sure what the chances of that happening might be though... I'm glad you or anyone who thinks alike is negotiating this, or anything else for us. So what if it's uncomfortable...that's part of negotiating. The #1 rule though is to not bend over willingly as you suggest we do... Clearly we're not bowing to him, or a deal would be done right? Of course we don't hold all the cards, but we do have a pretty good hand that is playing well right now with the cost of living pressures Trump is facing from his constituents. Don't forget the fact the US relies on us as both a customer and supplier... That's what you see, what the US see's is Canada not a reliable NATO partner for decades, not a good NORAD partner, and in their eyes not a good trade partner....we have lose immigration policies, our border has more holes in it than swiss cheese....(renting 4 helos is not going to fix that) To date Canada has given them the finger, and now in comes trump who is more forceful and for the most part Canada crys...So Canada has actions so far have lead us to this point....we need to step up and own that sh!t....and take some action...You and me don't know what the US are talking about Chinese made cars, but they have also laid out the law to them as well...We should not be dealing with the Chinese at all.... Unless you have not heard Unions , Doug ford have already said NO to Chinese cars or any vehicles...But sure bring them in and see what uncle trump does, see if it is worth all the trouble....Like i said they hold all the cards....we do not have leverage over the US Like i said wait until this summer when Cusma is on the table...and we will see who does the talking and who does the listening.... What do we know what is going on, we receive little tidbits, from our government , it is the USA government doing all the talking and none of their news is any good. What we do know is Carney was the only one to deal with trump, he is a master negotiator and well know banker , that has done nothing in the way of handling trump...but he has flown a lot...and eats some very expensive airplane food...that's what i know.... The cost of living is costing jobs here in Canada , everything cost more...fuel is out of control, what has he done to solve any of that....how many homes has he built in Canada to date....the failures are building...Lets not forget the US economy is ten times ours.....when they fart we smell it.... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted April 10 Author Report Posted April 10 8 hours ago, Moonbox said: Because you're not explaining an economic concept, genius. You're telling us that the weaker party needs to bend over and accept whatever the stronger party demands. Most dads teach their kids this is a bad idea at a young age. You don't need a university education to know that, but because you've become such a blind, thoughtless partisan, you're advocating for a stance that I'd bet money you taught your kids was bad idea. Then your not very good at this are you....the US economy is 10 times the size of ours, they are not dependent on Canada for anything except energy....They are going to dictate to Canada....what they like or want...or they simple replace Canada trade with someone else, like Mexico...does it take a genius to see that, no.... Are you saying Canada has not already bent over, when it comes to US demands or requests....we will wait until the summer and see who dances to whose music....and just for augment sake because you and the liberals have our pride at sake here...what is Canada going to do when it does not get is way... what happens when the US carries out it's threats and drops Canada from CUSMA...and tariffs everything until we do toe the line, what happens to our economy then...Well in this case the smaller kids get their face caved in...over and over until that kid learns either to fight or where they fit in on the food chain...And this fight Canada will never win....that's reality....except in this case the kid is 10 feet tall, and we are all but 2 feet....and this is going to show up in Cusma deal.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 34 minutes ago, Army Guy said: That's what you see, what the US see's is Canada not a reliable NATO partner for decades, not a good NORAD partner, and in their eyes not a good trade partner....we have lose immigration policies, our border has more holes in it than swiss cheese....(renting 4 helos is not going to fix that) To date Canada has given them the finger, and now in comes trump who is more forceful and for the most part Canada crys...So Canada has actions so far have lead us to this point....we need to step up and own that sh!t....and take some action...You and me don't know what the US are talking about Chinese made cars, but they have also laid out the law to them as well...We should not be dealing with the Chinese at all.... Unless you have not heard Unions , Doug ford have already said NO to Chinese cars or any vehicles...But sure bring them in and see what uncle trump does, see if it is worth all the trouble....Like i said they hold all the cards....we do not have leverage over the US Like i said wait until this summer when Cusma is on the table...and we will see who does the talking and who does the listening.... What do we know what is going on, we receive little tidbits, from our government , it is the USA government doing all the talking and none of their news is any good. What we do know is Carney was the only one to deal with trump, he is a master negotiator and well know banker , that has done nothing in the way of handling trump...but he has flown a lot...and eats some very expensive airplane food...that's what i know.... The cost of living is costing jobs here in Canada , everything cost more...fuel is out of control, what has he done to solve any of that....how many homes has he built in Canada to date....the failures are building...Lets not forget the US economy is ten times ours.....when they fart we smell it.... You just don't like Canada do you... Why not move to the US, or easier to just stick around and bîtch? Quote
CdnFox Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 (edited) On 4/6/2026 at 7:16 PM, Army Guy said: Yes, this is going to go over like a lead balloon for out neighbors down south...it is almost like carney wants to poke trump with a sharp stick....this combines with sending champagne to dig up more trade...Is there any one that thinks this is a good idea.... Stellantis discusses building Chinese EVs at Ont. plant: report | Hanomansing Tonight | Watch Even carney isn't for it. But not talking about actually building cars here, they're talking about the Chinese sending kits with mostly completed cars and the final assembly is done here much like Ikea furniture. Auto people hate it because there be no jobs of any consequence, the parts people hate it because there won't be any parts supplies and the government doesn't like it because they will be extremely hated by the auto sector if they even try it because it would only be a matter of time until Volkswagen and Toyota Etc got the same idea I doubt it'll go ahead. The government really really doesn't like it Edited April 10 by CdnFox 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Goddess Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 On 4/8/2026 at 9:26 PM, LinkSoul60 said: we were the ones who were provoked Allowing yourself to be provoked is not a good look. Every other country mostly ignored him or laughed it off. But Canada is full of boomers who poop their pants every time the CBC tells them to. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
LinkSoul60 Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 22 minutes ago, Goddess said: Allowing yourself to be provoked is not a good look. Every other country mostly ignored him or laughed it off. But Canada is full of boomers who poop their pants every time the CBC tells them to. Not every country was handed up to 50% tariffs that shìt kicked industry sectors with lost jobs. No country has laughed about being hit with tariffs.... You're not that foolish are you? You need to find another act with that one... 'pooping' your pants and telling someone to F'off are two entirely different things. Believing what you see from random posts on X and FB tells me the only 'poop' here is your brain. Quote
Goddess Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Not every country was handed up to 50% tariffs that shìt kicked industry sectors with lost jobs. No country has laughed about being hit with tariffs.... You're not that foolish are you? And yet it's only Canada and China that can't seem to deal with Trump. 2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: tells me the only 'poop' here is your brain. Oh please 🙄 You've been pooping your pants over Trump tweets for a year now. The economy? WHO CARES???? OMG! TRUMP!!!! Industry in Canda? OMG!!! A TRUMP TWEET! Healthcare? ORANGE MAN!! ORANGE MAN!! ORANGE MAN!!!! Mass immigration that's crashing all our institutions? AAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHH!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! Child rapists & pedos getting released onto our streets? WHO CARES??? I'M TOO BUSY POOPING MY PANTS BECAUSE ORANGE MAN!!! 25% of our population living in food insecurity, tent cities popping up all over, food banks collapsing? TRUMP, TRUMP TRUMP!!!! WWWWWAAAAHHHHHH! Time to change your diaper, old man. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
LinkSoul60 Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 11 minutes ago, Goddess said: And yet it's only Canada and China that can't seem to deal with Trump. Obviously you come from the @Army Guy school of bending over and doing what Trump say's rather than doing what's best for your country. 13 minutes ago, Goddess said: Oh please 🙄 We're talking about Chinese built cars here, or did you forget that in your typical cry me a river 'look whats the liberals did'. Try to stay focused... You are the prototypical simple minded far right Poilievre supporter though. Totally clueless in your little fantasy world, but always good for a laugh.. 😂 Quote
Goddess Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said: Obviously you come from the @Army Guy school of bending over and doing what Trump say's rather than doing what's best for your country. We're talking about Chinese built cars here, or did you forget that in your typical cry me a river 'look whats the liberals did'. Try to stay focused... You are the prototypical simple minded far right Poilievre supporter though. Totally clueless in your little fantasy world, but always good for a laugh.. 😂 It's way past time for a diaper change, buddy. I can smell you through the computer screen. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
LinkSoul60 Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 6 minutes ago, Goddess said: It's way past time for a diaper change, buddy. I can smell you through the computer screen. Lol... got nothing do you 😂 Back to X in search of todays new conspiracy 👉 Quote
Goddess Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: Lol... got nothing do you 😂 Back to X in search of todays new conspiracy 👉 And you're back to the CBC for today's cup of Kool-Aid. Anything to say about all the Liberal government people who have been convicted of kiddie p*rn? Ya, you got nothing to say about all that, do ya? Edited April 10 by Goddess Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Moonbox Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 14 hours ago, Army Guy said: Then your not very good at this are you....the US economy is 10 times the size of ours, they are not dependent on Canada for anything except energy....They are going to dictate to Canada....what they like or want...or they simple replace Canada trade with someone else, like Mexico...does it take a genius to see that, no.... Are you saying Canada has not already bent over, when it comes to US demands or requests....we will wait until the summer and see who dances to whose music....and just for augment sake because you and the liberals have our pride at sake here...what is Canada going to do when it does not get is way... what happens when the US carries out it's threats and drops Canada from CUSMA...and tariffs everything until we do toe the line, what happens to our economy then...Well in this case the smaller kids get their face caved in...over and over until that kid learns either to fight or where they fit in on the food chain...And this fight Canada will never win....that's reality....except in this case the kid is 10 feet tall, and we are all but 2 feet....and this is going to show up in Cusma deal.... Another useless, pointless ramble, full of big feelings and nothing of substance. Like I said, now we know your kink and your life philosophy. Big hairy man says drop your pants and present, and you say, "Yes Sir! How wide should I spread??" Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 Just now, Moonbox said: Another useless, pointless ramble, full of big feelings and nothing of substance. Were you referring to your post? That seems to be all you bring to the table these days Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 58 minutes ago, Goddess said: And you're back to the CBC for today's cup of Kool-Aid. Anything to say about all the Liberal government people who have been convicted of kiddie p*rn? Ya, you got nothing to say about all that, do ya? Best I can see is that one person was convicted (?).... but in your feeble little mind that's all liberals right. That's what I got to say about that... CBC is far more reliable than your likeminded simpletons on X and Facebook. If Bobjob or the loose moose said it, it has to be true!! Quote
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