John Johnston Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth dismissed Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Kruse, citing a "loss of confidence" after an intelligence report contradicted President Trump's statements about U.S. strikes on Iran. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 Thank him for his service...but: Quote Commissioned officers in the U.S. armed forces technically serve at the pleasure of the President. This means they can be removed or dismissed by the President, reinforcing civilian control of the military as mandated by the Constitution. This authority is formal, with commissions often bearing the President's signature. 1 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
John Stone Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Thank him for his service...but: In times of war, this is very unusual - bad for morale. Quote
Deluge Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Thank him for his service...but: You have to excuse Juan Juanston - he believes authority & leadership begins at the bottom and trickles up to the top. 1 Quote
John Stone Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 1 hour ago, John Johnston said: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth dismissed Lt. Gen. Jeffrey Kruse, citing a "loss of confidence" after an intelligence report contradicted President Trump's statements about U.S. strikes on Iran. ........... Pentagon Pete? ..................... Pam Bondi shuffle. Quote
John Johnston Posted April 3 Author Report Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, John Stone said: ........... Pentagon Pete? ..................... Pam Bondi shuffle. The Wheels under the Bus go Squish, squish, squish... 1 Quote
John Johnston Posted April 3 Author Report Posted April 3 The Weekend Fox News Host knows more than the Generals I guess. No wonder their little war is a clusterf*ck. 2 Quote
User Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 5 hours ago, John Stone said: In times of war, this is very unusual - bad for morale. Absolutely no one in the forces in the combat chain of command gives two shits about who is in the Joint Chiefs of staff. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 6 hours ago, John Stone said: In times of war, this is very unusual - bad for morale. Not really a war. It certainly a military conflict and you can sort of call it a war but it's a little too one-sided to be considered a war at this point I think, although it would meet the technical definition for sure But you haven't really made the case that the conflict is getting out of control. So far it does sound like they're pretty much in control militarily, and iran isn't able to significantly challenge the us in a military fashion. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 6 hours ago, John Stone said: In times of war, this is very unusual - bad for morale. Yes, bad morale for service members who refuse to follow orders or criticize the chain-of-command. If getting fired by Truman was good enough for General Douglas McCarthur, it is certainly good enough for General Kruse. But wait...TRUMP !!! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
robosmith Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 27 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes, bad morale for service members who refuse to follow orders or criticize the chain-of-command. If getting fired by Truman was good enough for General Douglas McCarthur, it is certainly good enough for General Kruse. But wait...TRUMP !!! ^NO EVIDENCE of "refuse to follow orders." Only thin skinned SoD fire generals for "criticism." Show us the public "criticism" Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^NO EVIDENCE of "refuse to follow orders." Only thin skinned SoD fire generals for "criticism." Show us the public "criticism" Too bad...so sad. They serve at the pleasure of the president. Trump - "You're FIRED !" Bye-bye Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCanMan Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 7 hours ago, John Johnston said: The Wheels under the Bus go Squish, squish, squish... It could be worse... It could be a failed presidency, like Biden's, where not a single person got fired. Although almost everyone that ever worked for Kamal quit. IMO success is better, but you guys are free to have your own opinions. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
eyeball Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 3 hours ago, User said: Absolutely no one in the forces in the combat chain of command gives two shits about who is in the Joint Chiefs of staff. Oh well, no one in the chain of command seems to give a shit what the war is about or who they're even fighting given they can't even tell who they're negotiating with. It's all getting good and FUBAR now alright. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
robosmith Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 54 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Too bad...so sad. They serve at the pleasure of the president. Trump - "You're FIRED !" Bye-bye Doesn't mean it's NOT CORRUPT. Of course you would defend Trump/PH no matter how corrupt they are. 27 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: It could be worse... It could be a failed presidency, like Biden's, where not a single person got fired. Although almost everyone that ever worked for Kamal quit. IMO success is better, but you guys are free to have your own opinions. Joe Biden was never impeached, so YOUR STANDARD of "failed" is just BULLSHIT. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 3 Report Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Doesn't mean it's NOT CORRUPT. Of course you would defend Trump/PH no matter how corrupt they are. It can't be corrupt...it is constitutional as Commander in Chief. Says so on my commissioning documents. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
John Johnston Posted April 4 Author Report Posted April 4 Pete Hegseth. Department of War Crimes. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 5 hours ago, eyeball said: Oh well, no one in the chain of command seems to give a shit what the war is about or who they're even fighting given they can't even tell who they're negotiating with. It's all getting good and FUBAR now alright. Doesn't seem that way yet. The americans appear to have control militarily. The political solution may take more time but it doesn't seem out of control just yet 5 hours ago, eyeball said: Ah! More of your family photos...... you and the wife isn't it? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 12 hours ago, robosmith said: Doesn't mean it's NOT CORRUPT. Of course you would defend Trump/PH no matter how corrupt they are. Joe Biden was never impeached, so YOUR STANDARD of "failed" is just BULLSHIT. Lol...you're such a pansie. Brandon was a brainless dolt. Perhaps a relative of yours? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 14 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes, bad morale for service members who refuse to follow orders or criticize the chain-of-command. If getting fired by Truman was good enough for General Douglas McCarthur, it is certainly good enough for General Kruse. But wait...TRUMP !!! No comparison, Doug was fired by Truman because he PUBLICLY defied orders, challenged U.S. policy and threatened civilian (political - Congressional) control of the military during the Korean War. Mac had no problem advocating the use of nukes and the invasion of China. Although China did not possess nukes at the time it would have been a huge escalation - major powers outside the confines of a civil war. A military genius, no question, but definitely was waaaaaaaaaay over his skiis. George - what did he do again ............ no-one knows..... but likely had something to do with Petes paranoia re: HIS job. Quote
John Stone Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 14 hours ago, CdnFox said: Not really a war. It certainly a military conflict and you can sort of call it a war but it's a little too one-sided to be considered a war at this point I think, although it would meet the technical definition for sure But you haven't really made the case that the conflict is getting out of control. So far it does sound like they're pretty much in control militarily, and iran isn't able to significantly challenge the us in a military fashion. I think u would have to agree that it's becoming protracted (mission?? creep). Out of control would likely include the price of oil, global economy, no end in sight, closure of Hormuz, spectre of Russia weighing in re: support, no control over Israel, no idea where the nuke fuel is stashed, public support. Perhaps the most serious tho is Trump's meteoric drop in popularity - really new levels of mediocrity? The introduction of shoulder launch SAM is a new development - Russia, again? Saying all that, the priority now has to be opening the Strait and likely a negotiated settlement - as the say, Israel has a vote tho? Quote
John Stone Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 13 hours ago, WestCanMan said: It could be worse... It could be a failed presidency, like Biden's, where not a single person got fired. Although almost everyone that ever worked for Kamal quit. IMO success is better, but you guys are free to have your own opinions. Biden's campaign had to be the most flagrant attempt (conspiracy?) to punk the U.S. ............ I do believe the plan was for him, if elected, to resign - leaving the Presidency open to Harris. Arguably Biden was the reason for the other dotage grasping the gold ring. ........... 1 Quote
John Stone Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 16 hours ago, User said: Absolutely no one in the forces in the combat chain of command gives two shits about who is in the Joint Chiefs of staff. Of course, when involved in a war with international implications a local Manager of the Golden Arches could handle the job, easily. jeeeeesh! Those immediately below the Army Chief of Staff likely care a great deal ...............of course they have integrity. Quote
User Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 3 hours ago, John Stone said: Of course, when involved in a war with international implications a local Manager of the Golden Arches could handle the job, easily. jeeeeesh! Those immediately below the Army Chief of Staff likely care a great deal ...............of course they have integrity. You clearly have never served a day in your life nor know anyone who has. Hell, you can’t even be bothered to understand the chain of command. Quote
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