What Side are the LPoC and CBC on in the IRGC/US & Israel War?

[WestCanMan]

It's obviously pro-Iran for our PM to call the war "illegal", but then he said that we might send troops. To be fair to Carney though, he didn't say which side they'd be on... 

And then Carney said... I honestly don't even know. I would have to check my clock at the minute I wrote this post, and then corroborate it with Carney's most recent statement today, to know if we support the war, we think it's illegal, are joining it (and on which side), or whatever.

The only thing we know for sure is that if Carney does make a declarative statement one way or the other, then it's one of 3 things:

1. he's just lying, as usual
2. he will change his mind ten minutes later, again
3. or Trump will issue a direct order via meantweet which Craney will obey without hesitation 

 

CBC's Strait of Hormuz vdieo:

If you watch this CBC video about the Strait of Hormuz right now it seems like the CBC even supports Iran's attacks on civilian oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz... Our reporters are gloating about the trouble that the US is having at preventing the destruction of marine ecosystems.

Wait, what??? Yup, the CBC doesn't even care that tankers are bing targeted. Nor does Greta. "SINK, BABY, SINK!!!" could have been the title of that video while it was in its design phase.

It even starts with: "This is what America wants to show off..."

But I can deal with that. Americans are putting out propaganda, sure. Everyone does.  

So, in fairness, the next thing that CBC will say is that "Iran is "showing off" their ability to kill more civilians and destroy all marine life within a 100km radius", right? Nope, just the purely objective statement: "Iran is escalating attacks in the Hormuz Strait." They make it sound like it's just some kind of "military success" that Iranians can be proud of.

So what's the CBC's suggestion at the end of the video, to get the oil flowing again? "Stop fighting" lol.

Could it get any more pro-Iranian than to just say: "Ok, Iran won, because their attacks on shipping are too disruptive, so let's end the war"?

A more sensible position could be "Iran should stop sinking f'ing oil tankers, because that's ACTUALLY ILLEGAL", but nope. They think it's fine for Iran to keep on sinking tankers until the US/Israel just let them have their way lol. F me. Our state broadcaster is now a full-blown Iranian propaganda outlet in favour of sinking oil tankers.

 

What Goals Does the CBC Promote?

Look at this from the POV of CBC's two sacred cows: global warming and the environment/tidewaters:

1. "At least oil consumption is down around the world, because oil prices are up 🥰. This is more effective than a carbon tax!!!"... They're saying that, Right? No? They're saying that it's bad that oil prices are up now.  They're saying that the world needs to burn more oil, so the US should stop fighting." Then why did they pimp a carbon tax on us?  
2. "Iran is bad because sinking tankers obliterates marine ecosystems!"... Surely they saying that Iran should stop sinking tankers to protect the environment, right? No? But Greta is saying that sinking tankers is bad, right? No? It's OKAY??? How is that just ok from the CBC's POV, and from the Greta cult?

 

Bottom Line:

• The CBC pimped a carbon tax to raise our oil prices in Canada so that we'd burn less oil
• The CBC wants to end the war with Iran to bring the price of oil down for the rest of the world
• make ^^that^^ make sense, left4rds
• the CBC and the Greta cult can't find fault with Iran for intentionally sinking several oil tankers and destroying the entire Strait of Hormuz ecosystem just to protect a regime that beats women, kills gays and slaughters thousands of freedom protesters. Hmmmm. Go Ayatollah!!!!
• the CBC and the Greta cult think that we can't ship oil through Canadian tidewaters because maybe 1 tanker will sink every 100 years... 

Edited March 15 by WestCanMan

[West]

The CBC et al are globalists and are beholden to the interests of the likes of George Soros or other woke DEI billionaires. 

Human rights are not really a concern. Just whatever gives these sick people more control over our lives. Thats their interest. 

The Ayotollahs likely align themselves with these people, along with other Chinese billionaires, which are the ones pulling the strings on Carney. Former alliances aren't really a thing. They blame Trump but really these sickos have been selling us out for the past 30 or 40 years. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, West said:

They blame Trump but really these sickos have been selling us out for the past 30 or 40 years. 

Let4rds hate Trump because they see him as being opposed to the ayatollahs and Xis of this world. 

[Nationalist]

The CBC is not a fan of Trump. They try to report the facts, but the wording they use betrays that.

As for the carney, he'll do what Trump wants...as usual.

"Elbows Up".

Edited March 16 by Nationalist

[LinkSoul60]

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

• The CBC pimped a carbon tax to raise our oil prices in Canada so that we'd burn less oil
• The CBC wants to end the war with Iran to bring the price of oil down for the rest of the world
• make ^^that^^ make sense, left4rds
• the CBC and the Greta cult can't find fault with Iran for intentionally sinking several oil tankers and destroying the entire Strait of Hormuz ecosystem just to protect a regime that beats women, kills gays and slaughters thousands of freedom protesters. Hmmmm. Go Ayatollah!!!!
• the CBC and the Greta cult think that we can't ship oil through Canadian tidewaters because maybe 1 tanker will sink every 100 years... 

1. Oil prices are set globally, not by CBC. You're correct though that the carbon tax was implemented to encourage using less oil. 

2. Not only the CBC, but I'd have to think everybody wants to war to end oil pricing to come down.  Kind of makes sense for both the humanitarian and economic pain it's causing don't you think...

3. I didn't see where Greta was involved in this shit show, and this comment if you call it that makes little sense.

4. Greta again... the kid gets around.  Is the once every hundred years fact based, or just your best guess?

Good insights though...  

 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

1. Oil prices are set globally, not by CBC. You're correct though that the carbon tax was implemented to encourage using less oil. 

In Canada, oil prices are artificially raised by carbon taxes, which the CBC fully supported. 

So, like I said, CBC FULLY SUPPORTED AN INCREASE IN OIL PRICES IN CANADA. Now they're saying that the US needs to stop fighting Iran to bring oil prices down. 

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2. Not only the CBC, but I'd have to think everybody wants to war to end oil pricing to come down.  Kind of makes sense for both the humanitarian and economic pain it's causing don't you think...

Again:

1. CBC wants oil prices up here. Up. To fight climate change.
2. it's actually a conservative position that rising energy costs affect poorer people disproportionately, because an extra $30 a tank is a lot for low-income people, and nothing for rich people. Leftists never cared until today. You're the first. Why don't you care about climate change? 
3. Oil prices in the US were exactly this high under Biden and leftists pretended it was no big deal. Now it's worth letting the IRGC off the hook?

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3. I didn't see where Greta was involved in this shit show, and this comment if you call it that makes little sense.

She's not involved at all:

1. she's not celebrating the elevated oil prices, which drive down consumption, and save the planet
2. she's not crying about sunken oil tankers destroying the environment. No left4rds are. Leftist media sources like CBC just say "Iran is escalating attacks in the Hormuz Strait" without mentioning the catastrophic environmental impact of that. 

There hasn't been a single "😭How dare you😭" from Great about sinking oil tankers.

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4. Greta again... the kid gets around.  Is the once every hundred years fact based, or just your best guess?

See above, dummy.

Note that the girl who controls the left4rd mob tacitly supports Iran by not railing against their crimes against the environment. 

Leftards only see "HUGE CLOUDS OF BURNING OIL" when they can be blamed on Trump. 

Edited March 16 by WestCanMan

[LinkSoul60]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

In Canada, oil prices are artificially raised by carbon taxes, which the CBC fully supported. 

So, like I said, CBC FULLY SUPPORTED AN INCREASE IN OIL PRICES IN CANADA. Now they're saying that the US needs to stop fighting Iran to bring oil prices down. 

A carbon tax has zero to do with the price of oil.  Why do you find it difficult to understand that oil pricing is set globally?  

You have an odd way of thinking if you believe the CBC has say one way or the other in what oil prices should be....

17 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Again:

1. CBC wants oil prices up here. Up. To fight climate change.
2. it's actually a conservative position that rising energy costs affect poorer people disproportionately, because an extra $30 a tank is a lot for low-income people, and nothing for rich people. Leftists never cared until today. You're the first. Why don't you care about climate change? 
3. Oil prices in the US were exactly this high under Biden and leftists pretended it was no big deal. Now it's worth letting the IRGC off the hook?

1. CBC is a media organization.  Who there is telling you that they want higher oil prices?

2. No, it's everyone's position and basic common sense that high energy costs affect everyone, especially those in a lower income category.  Is that a revelation that you just learned with this spike in prices?

3. Yes oil prices were that high but gets real convoluted during and coming off the pandemic...  Biden came in during covid which first saw oil absolutely tank in price then as the world economies started to dig themselves out and demand escalated. At the same time Russia decided to invade Ukraine which saw their oil off the market because of sanctions causing the price to escalate more.  It was a big deal then and is a big deal now.  

32 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

See above, dummy.

Note that the girl who controls the left4rd mob tacitly supports Iran by not railing against their crimes against the environment. 

Leftards only see "HUGE CLOUDS OF BURNING OIL" when they can be blamed on Trump. 

I'd think twice about calling other people 'dummy' when you're talking about a climate activist supposedly controlling the 'lefts' thoughts.

Your fascination with Trump is admirable. Laughable, but admirable in your defence of the guy...

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

A carbon tax has zero to do with the price of oil.  Why do you find it difficult to understand that oil pricing is set globally?  

You have an odd way of thinking if you believe the CBC has say one way or the other in what oil prices should be....

Stop, child.

You know that CBC FULLY SUPPORTED HIGHER PRICES FOR CANADIANS. Gas prices. We hardly buy any "oil".

Now, for some reason that makes no sense to me, the CBC is worried about high "oil" prices for everyone OUTSIDE of Canada, but of course that really means "gasoline and diesel".

Make it make sense. Why did CBC love highergas prices for Canadians, now they're against it.

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1. CBC is a media organization.  Who there is telling you that they want higher oil prices?

Their pro-carban tax talking points that they pimped. The anti-carbon tax points that they scoffed at. 

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2. No, it's everyone's position and basic common sense that high energy costs affect everyone, especially those in a lower income category.  Is that a revelation that you just learned with this spike in prices?

Wrong. They affect people "disproportionately". Meaningless to the Dems and LPoC, but devastating fo r the poor people that they always pretend to care about.

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3. Yes oil prices were that high but gets real convoluted during and coming off the pandemic...  Biden came in during covid which first saw oil absolutely tank in price then as the world economies started to dig themselves out and demand escalated.

Biden, like Canadian libs, failed to see the importance of oil, pipelines, refineries, LNG infrastructure, etc. And coal.

They bought Chinese green tech and gave up on coal and gas, China doesn't rely on their own green tech at all. They buy gas and coal. 

[LinkSoul60]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Stop, child.

You know that CBC FULLY SUPPORTED HIGHER PRICES FOR CANADIANS. Gas prices. We hardly buy any "oil".

Now, for some reason that makes no sense to me, the CBC is worried about high "oil" prices for everyone OUTSIDE of Canada, but of course that really means "gasoline and diesel".

Make it make sense. Why did CBC love highergas prices for Canadians, now they're against it.

No, I didn't know that CBC supported higher prices for Canadian's.  Gather they're not Canadian's, or just like paying more for stuff?  

Please explain how we 'hardly buy any oil'?  Real curious of this one...  

Your fascination with CBC has you thinking stranger than you normally do.

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Their pro-carban tax talking points that they pimped. The anti-carbon tax points that they scoffed at. 

You have this opinion that everyone thinks similar to yourself and is as easily influenced.

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Wrong. They affect people "disproportionately". Meaningless to the Dems and LPoC, but devastating fo r the poor people that they always pretend to care about.

Lose your ignorant bias for a minute and try to understand that higher oil prices affect everyone....dems, republicans, independents, right, left and centre.  Or do you think dems and libs don't get costs passed on to them?

21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Biden, like Canadian libs, failed to see the importance of oil, pipelines, refineries, LNG infrastructure, etc. And coal.

They bought Chinese green tech and gave up on coal and gas, China doesn't rely on their own green tech at all. They buy gas and coal. 

Why so much trouble understanding this....  It doesn't matter if we had oil pipelines running down every street in the country.... the price of oil would be the same as it is today.  Try reading FFS... oil pricing is set globally and has jackshit to do with how much you're sitting on or can produce.

China is still a developing country that is dependant on conventional fossil fuels for energy but leads the world in clean energy tech investment.  To say they don't at all use green tech energy is factually false.  Over a third of China's energy usage in 2025 was from clean tech sources.  Read man, read....

 

 

[cougar]

23 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If you watch this CBC video about the Strait of Hormuz right now it seems like the CBC even supports Iran's attacks on civilian oil tankers in the Strait of Hormuz...

What "civilian" oil tankers are you talking about?    The oil tankers that ask permission from Tehran to pass and are not associated with the USA/ Israel interests are let through.

You have a bunch of arrogant b8tards bomb the hell out of a country , wiping out a school with hundreds of kids inside and you are talking some strange nonsense.

They did not start this mess.   They can shoot all over the place now for all I am concerned.

If it was up to me to resolve the situation, I would ask USA and Israel to pull out immediately and pay reparations to Iran.  Then the world can negotiate for the oil traffic to resume.

 

[cougar]

32 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It doesn't matter if we had oil pipelines running down every street in the country.... the price of oil would be the same as it is today.  Try reading FFS... oil pricing is set globally and has jackshit to do with how much you're sitting on or can produce.

 

This can't be so.  It depends on the country and who owns the oil producing and refining facilities.  Imagine you had a state owned operation.

They can sell you gasoline at cost plus 10% profit, or whatever you call it.

It will not have "jackshit to do with how" many wars this dumbass south of us starts.

[WestCanMan]

23 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No, I didn't know that CBC supported higher prices for Canadian's.  

That's just stupid. CBC pushed all the pro-carbon-tax narratives and gave all the oxygen in the room to global warming criers.

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Gather they're not Canadian's, or just like paying more for stuff?  

The just "support LPoC propaganda", that's it.

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Please explain how we 'hardly buy any oil'?  Real curious of this one...  

You said "the carbon tax has zero to do with the price of oil", so you were trying to engage in semantics. 

I just blew past that BS and said it in terms of gas prices: "the carbon tax increased our gas prices". There's no room to debate that.

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Lose your ignorant bias for a minute and try to understand that higher oil prices affect everyone....dems, republicans, independents, right, left and centre.  Or do you think dems and libs don't get costs passed on to them?

So does the carbon tax, f-head.

So does getting rid of coal-fired plants and changing to unreliable green energy. 

So does attacking our energy sector.

You guys LOVED all that.

"Costs be damned! Get the price of gas UP regardless of how bad it hurts! How dare your resist!!! You're killing the younger generations!!!!!!" - leftists

Now the war is raising gas prices and you're all saying: "GET THE PRICE OF GAS DOWN!!!! KILL THE TURTLES BY SINKING OIL TANKERS UNTIL AMERICA LETS THE AYATOLLAH GO FREE!!!" - the same leftists as above

I'm 100% correct. 😉

DO YOU WANT THE PRICE OF GAS UP OR DOWN?????? One or the other....

[LinkSoul60]

5 minutes ago, cougar said:

This can't be so.  It depends on the country and who owns the oil producing and refining facilities.  Imagine you had a state owned operation.

They can sell you gasoline at cost plus 10% profit, or whatever you call it.

It will not have "jackshit to do with how" many wars this dumbass south of us starts.

It is so... oil pricing is set globally and has nothing to do with how much you have or don't have.  

The price of oil, or the oil price, generally refers to the spot price of a barrel (159 litres) of benchmark crude oil—a reference price for buyers and sellers of crude oil such as West Texas Intermediate(WTI), Brent Crude, Dubai Crude, OPEC Reference Basket, Tapis crude, Bonny Light, Urals oil, Isthmus, and Western Canadian Select(WCS).^[1][2] Oil prices are determined by global supply and demand, rather than any country's domestic production level.

Oil, gas or any other derivative of can be sold at whatever the seller wants to sell for but the price of a barrel of oil does not change.

If the dumbass down south wants to start more wars buckle up for a lot higher oil pricing.  Won't be the case though as he is clearly running with his tail between his legs now trying to figure a way out by asking countries he's dumped on to help to open the strait, increase the flow of oil and get pricing normalized.

[cougar]

6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It is so... oil pricing is set globally and has nothing to do with how much you have or don't have.  

The price of oil, or the oil price, generally refers to the spot price of a barrel (159 litres) of benchmark crude oil—a reference price for buyers and sellers of crude oil such as West Texas Intermediate(WTI), Brent Crude, Dubai Crude, OPEC Reference Basket, Tapis crude, Bonny Light, Urals oil, Isthmus, and Western Canadian Select(WCS).^[1][2] Oil prices are determined by global supply and demand, rather than any country's domestic production level.

Oil, gas or any other derivative of can be sold at whatever the seller wants to sell for but the price of a barrel of oil does not change.

If the dumbass down south wants to start more wars buckle up for a lot higher oil pricing.  Won't be the case though as he is clearly running with his tail between his legs now trying to figure a way out by asking countries he's dumped on to help to open the strait, increase the flow of oil and get pricing normalized.

Yes, you can have an international price, but again, if we produce oil and can refine it, we can have our own pricese , totally independent from the global markets.  This will in fact help our currency appreciate.

[suds]

The price of oil is set globally by futures markets just like most other commodities. If the price gets too low and oil producers in Canada are strapped by carbon taxes and a bunch of other regulatory hurdles then profit margins come into play, and there's little incentive for investment by the oil companies or private investors. The world price for oil does play a part in what we pay at the pumps but it doesn't count for everything.

[suds]

When Chavez took power in Venezuela he subsidized the price of gas at the pumps to the extent that people were paying about 10 to 15 cents/gallon.  The price at the pumps is what it is.

[cougar]

6 minutes ago, suds said:

When Chavez took power in Venezuela he subsidized the price of gas at the pumps to the extent that people were paying about 10 to 15 cents/gallon.  The price at the pumps is what it is.

Subsidizing is one thing, but you can also take control over the oil reserves and oil production.  Imagine it was government employees at the oil sands in Fort Mac getting the oil to a Canadian refinery staffed by government employees.

The government then can have the prices of oil as low as they can have them.    And if their operation is inefficient and cost is too high, they will have to fold and depend on imported oil (unlikely).

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, cougar said:

Yes, you can have an international price, but again, if we produce oil and can refine it, we can have our own pricese , totally independent from the global markets.  This will in fact help our currency appreciate.

We do extract it and refine it in the refineries we have across the country. We can add as many as we want, but it still won't change the price of oil for us. That's bought and sold at market rates.  It would though to your point help our economy and dollar with more output and revenue from it.

[LinkSoul60]

20 minutes ago, suds said:

The world price for oil does play a part in what we pay at the pumps but it doesn't count for everything.

The price of crude is the main component in the price of gasoline.  As the cost of crude climbs so does gasoline, and vice versa.  After that it's all supply and demand, profits and taxes as to where the price of gas is in the market.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, cougar said:

What "civilian" oil tankers are you talking about?    The oil tankers that ask permission from Tehran to pass and are not associated with the USA/ Israel interests are let through.

Oil tankers that were... sunk? 

F'n nutcase.

I find it hilarious that the biggest environmentalist on this site is just saying: "Yeah, sink some tankers if it helps keep the IRGC safe". 😂

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You have a bunch of arrogant b8tards bomb the hell out of a country , wiping out a school with hundreds of kids inside and you are talking some strange nonsense.

OMG you're loathesome.

FYI, including that school, Americans have killed tens of thousands fewer people in Iran than the IRGC did in the last two months. 

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They did not start this mess. 

They're been an open proponent of genocide for 40 years. How is that not "starting it"?

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If it was up to me to resolve the situation, I would ask USA and Israel to pull out immediately and pay reparations to Iran.  Then the world can negotiate for the oil traffic to resume.

Would you just give Iran nukes and ICBM's at the same time? 

[WestCanMan]

Now we're in the thick of it:

leftists/CBC cultists, are openly admitting to being pro-IRGC.

So conservatives were correct.

At least we all agree on something for once. 

[suds]

3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The price of crude is the main component in the price of gasoline.  As the cost of crude climbs so does gasoline, and vice versa.  After that it's all supply and demand, profits and taxes as to where the price of gas is in the market.

That's pretty much it.  I'd like to see us as a country become at least totally self sufficient.  The failure of Energy East to materialize was a big mistake.  Now much of eastern Canada is totally dependent upon oil from the U.S. and other places like Saudi Arabia. It's going to be awhile before we weed ourselves off of fossil fuels and we're putting our economy at risk. Wars change things as Europe found out after the Russian invasion of Ukraine and what seems to be unfolding today.

[LinkSoul60]

17 minutes ago, suds said:

That's pretty much it.  I'd like to see us as a country become at least totally self sufficient.  The failure of Energy East to materialize was a big mistake.  Now much of eastern Canada is totally dependent upon oil from the U.S. and other places like Saudi Arabia. It's going to be awhile before we weed ourselves off of fossil fuels and we're putting our economy at risk. Wars change things as Europe found out after the Russian invasion of Ukraine and what seems to be unfolding today.

I agree with you in wanting to see the country self-reliant with energy but that's not how we or our North American energy footprint has evolved.  A West to East Coast pipeline would go a long way to that self-reliance but that really hasn't been a conversation that I'm aware of.  Yep, we're going to using fossil fuels for a lot of years still but as time goes on it will be lesser and lesser which is all part of the investment decision companies look at.  I'd love to be a fly on the wall listening to the conversations between government and private business around these type investments....

[cougar]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Oil tankers that were... sunk? 

F'n nutcase.

I find it hilarious that the biggest environmentalist on this site is just saying: "Yeah, sink some tankers if it helps keep the IRGC safe". 😂

OMG you're loathesome.

FYI, including that school, Americans have killed tens of thousands fewer people in Iran than the IRGC did in the last two months. 

They're been an open proponent of genocide for 40 years. How is that not "starting it"?

Would you just give Iran nukes and ICBM's at the same time? 

Your brain seems fried my friend.

[CdnFox]

The CBC supports iran, and the LPoC support changes like a metronome by the hour. 

"We support trump!  With regret. But we don't regret supporting him. But we're definitely not being asked to participate. But we would consider it. Except that we would NEVER participate. But we'll go if they need us to protect our allies".