WestCanMan Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 Can the FBI even say for certain what girls were or weren't there? If so, can they say for certain when girls were there, or for how long? Do they know for certain what men were there and who wasn't? Is it certain that everyone who ever visited the island was there to have sex with prostitutes, and/or minors? It's likely that many didn't. I'm all for justice for the victims, but there has never been a better opportunity for women to scam rich men than this Epstein thing. I once saw a show about two sisters, gypsies, who pulled off a huge scam against a Disney (?) hotel in Vegas... One sister came up with a plan to get "raped" by her own boyfriend... He would go out of their room in a costume, and pretend to have lost his room key, and get a sec guard or maid to let him into the room, where he would then "rape" his gf. The sister who came up with the plan got her sister to be the actual victim, and they were gonna split the money 50/50. The guy beat her up, even burned her with a cigarette a few times, and then left. Disney settled out of court for millions. The only reason they got caught is that the sister who planned it didn't get her share, so she ratted her sister out. Point being: if women would go to that extent to scam men for money, what are the chances that there aren't gonna be some more "gypsies" try to use this Epstein island thing as a cash cow? How many people can prove that they didn't go to Epstein's island 20 years ago? How many men would just pay a bribe rather than get their name in the press? Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
West Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 Many high profile cases from MeToo era turned out to be hoaxes. Matters girl or that black chic who falsely claimed they were raped by the Duke Lacrosse team. All to target conservatives and push wokeness. Sick people Quote
John Johnston Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 35 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Can the FBI even say for certain what girls were or weren't there? If so, can they say for certain when girls were there, or for how long? Do they know for certain what men were there and who wasn't? Is it certain that everyone who ever visited the island was there to have sex with prostitutes, and/or minors? It's likely that many didn't. I'm all for justice for the victims, but there has never been a better opportunity for women to scam rich men than this Epstein thing. I once saw a show about two sisters, gypsies, who pulled off a huge scam against a Disney (?) hotel in Vegas... One sister came up with a plan to get "raped" by her own boyfriend... He would go out of their room in a costume, and pretend to have lost his room key, and get a sec guard or maid to let him into the room, where he would then "rape" his gf. The sister who came up with the plan got her sister to be the actual victim, and they were gonna split the money 50/50. The guy beat her up, even burned her with a cigarette a few times, and then left. Disney settled out of court for millions. The only reason they got caught is that the sister who planned it didn't get her share, so she ratted her sister out. Point being: if women would go to that extent to scam men for money, what are the chances that there aren't gonna be some more "gypsies" try to use this Epstein island thing as a cash cow? How many people can prove that they didn't go to Epstein's island 20 years ago? How many men would just pay a bribe rather than get their name in the press? MAGA is eating your brains. 1 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Can the FBI even say for certain what girls were or weren't there? If so, can they say for certain when girls were there, or for how long? Do they know for certain what men were there and who wasn't? Is it certain that everyone who ever visited the island was there to have sex with prostitutes, and/or minors? It's likely that many didn't. I'm all for justice for the victims, but there has never been a better opportunity for women to scam rich men than this Epstein thing. I once saw a show about two sisters, gypsies, who pulled off a huge scam against a Disney (?) hotel in Vegas... One sister came up with a plan to get "raped" by her own boyfriend... He would go out of their room in a costume, and pretend to have lost his room key, and get a sec guard or maid to let him into the room, where he would then "rape" his gf. The sister who came up with the plan got her sister to be the actual victim, and they were gonna split the money 50/50. The guy beat her up, even burned her with a cigarette a few times, and then left. Disney settled out of court for millions. The only reason they got caught is that the sister who planned it didn't get her share, so she ratted her sister out. Point being: if women would go to that extent to scam men for money, what are the chances that there aren't gonna be some more "gypsies" try to use this Epstein island thing as a cash cow? How many people can prove that they didn't go to Epstein's island 20 years ago? How many men would just pay a bribe rather than get their name in the press? Epstein left a LOT OF EVIDENCE which he probably used for BLACKMAIL. You know, like the picture from Epstein's safe that Michael Wolfe described of Trump with two underage topless girls sitting on his lap. When Bondi was asked if the FBI had that pic, she failed to deny that they did. Quote
User Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Epstein left a LOT OF EVIDENCE which he probably used for BLACKMAIL. You know, like the picture from Epstein's safe that Michael Wolfe described of Trump with two underage topless girls sitting on his lap. When Bondi was asked if the FBI had that pic, she failed to deny that they did. So, where is all this evidence he left? You are a little more than the most pathological liar on this forum. Quote
Nationalist Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 13 hours ago, John Johnston said: MAGA is eating your brains. Actually...it's eating your chances for the mid-terms. Ahhh...you thought 20 some-odd years old accusations was gonna hold water with the American voters? The Demoncrats have screamed and howled so much that nobody believes them anymore. But the rampant fraud? Ya...they believe that. 2 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 16 hours ago, John Johnston said: MAGA is eating your brains. There's a checklist that you should always go through whenever you hear someone make an accusation against another person, regardless of the political affiliation. Your starting point should always be "There's this side of the story, and that side of the story, and the truth lies somewhere in between." From there you need to think about the amount of evidence presented and the motive. Money is a strong motivator here. 100%. There has never been a better time for women to shake down powerful men in the last 100 years than right now. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Legato Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 (edited) 16 hours ago, John Johnston said: MAGA is eating your brains. So who/what ate yours? The possibilities for shakedowns are all there and are probably already happening. Edited February 18 by Legato Quote
robosmith Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 33 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: There's a checklist that you should always go through whenever you hear someone make an accusation against another person, regardless of the political affiliation. Your starting point should always be "There's this side of the story, and that side of the story, and the truth lies somewhere in between." From there you need to think about the amount of evidence presented and the motive. Money is a strong motivator here. 100%. There has never been a better time for women to shake down powerful men in the last 100 years than right now. You're probably right, because in the recent past, women's complaints were just swept under the rug by CABALS of men. Just look at the sweet heart deal that Epstein got from Alex Acosta, who was briefly rewarded by a curious appointment to Trump's cabinet, before the shit hit the media fan. And Trump had to pay Stormy $130K to keep her mouth shut. meTOO! changed all that and women began to be taken seriously, which cost Trump an $85M judgment. Quote
marcus Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 On 2/17/2026 at 4:31 PM, WestCanMan said: Can the FBI even say for certain what girls were or weren't there? If so, can they say for certain when girls were there, or for how long? Do they know for certain what men were there and who wasn't? Is it certain that everyone who ever visited the island was there to have sex with prostitutes, and/or minors? It's likely that many didn't. I'm all for justice for the victims, but there has never been a better opportunity for women to scam rich men than this Epstein thing. I once saw a show about two sisters, gypsies, who pulled off a huge scam against a Disney (?) hotel in Vegas... One sister came up with a plan to get "raped" by her own boyfriend... He would go out of their room in a costume, and pretend to have lost his room key, and get a sec guard or maid to let him into the room, where he would then "rape" his gf. The sister who came up with the plan got her sister to be the actual victim, and they were gonna split the money 50/50. The guy beat her up, even burned her with a cigarette a few times, and then left. Disney settled out of court for millions. The only reason they got caught is that the sister who planned it didn't get her share, so she ratted her sister out. Point being: if women would go to that extent to scam men for money, what are the chances that there aren't gonna be some more "gypsies" try to use this Epstein island thing as a cash cow? How many people can prove that they didn't go to Epstein's island 20 years ago? How many men would just pay a bribe rather than get their name in the press? The Epstein files are full of confessions by Epstein and the psychopath millionaire/billionaire class that you, for some reason, want to protect. There are email exchanges, photos and videos. The amazing part is that the heavily redacted documents are just a drip of what went down. It's shocking that it can be worse. Have you had a chance to look at any of the information? Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
robosmith Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 On 2/17/2026 at 4:37 PM, West said: Many high profile cases from MeToo era turned out to be hoaxes. Matters girl or that black chic who falsely claimed they were raped by the Duke Lacrosse team. All to target conservatives and push wokeness. Sick people TWO is NOT MANY. And you don't even know it's "Mattress girl" LMAO Quote "Mattress Girl" refers to Emma Sulkowicz, who carried a mattress around Columbia University (2014-2015) to protest the school's handling of her sexual assault case, becoming an icon of campus activism just before the #MeToo movement went viral. The #MeToo movement was founded in 2006 by Tarana Burke to support survivors. No information saying that's FALSE. 💡 Quote
West Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 (edited) 6 hours ago, robosmith said: TWO is NOT MANY. And you don't even know it's "Mattress girl" LMAO No information saying that's FALSE. 💡 https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/14/nyregion/columbia-settles-with-student-cast-as-a-rapist-in-mattress-art-project.html Duh Evidently this was the hoax the Obama administration used to destroy due process rights for the accused through his butchery of title ix. Democrats have to make up hoaxes to target their adversaries. Sick Edited February 19 by West Quote
Fluffypants Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, West said: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/14/nyregion/columbia-settles-with-student-cast-as-a-rapist-in-mattress-art-project.html Duh Evidently this was the hoax the Obama administration used to destroy due process rights for the accused through his butchery of title ix. Democrats have to make up hoaxes to target their adversaries. Sick Oh yeah Obama showed how much they love "due process" by making an accusation alone good enough to destroy a students future. With Illegal Immigrants they require mutiple court hearing and being allowed to change why they think they should stay even with an order of deportation. Also your not allowed to go after them AT ALL and have to wait till they decide to leave. Edited February 19 by Fluffypants Quote
West Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 2 hours ago, Fluffypants said: Oh yeah Obama showed how much they love "due process" by making an accusation alone good enough to destroy a students future. With Illegal Immigrants they require mutiple court hearing and being allowed to change why they think they should stay even with an order of deportation. Also your not allowed to go after them AT ALL and have to wait till they decide to leave. Sadly no matter how many receipts you show a leftist about their party's scuzzy behavior they don't care. Ruining a 18 year olds life with false rape allegations is fine if it leads to their end goal of enforcing their warped religion on everyone else. Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 16 hours ago, marcus said: The Epstein files are full of confessions by Epstein and the psychopath millionaire/billionaire class that you, for some reason, want to protect. There are email exchanges, photos and videos. I don't want to protect any of them, but the FBI has had their hands on those docs for 5 years now, some even longer than that, and the FBI has a court-documented history of altering evidence before providing it to court. Obama let Epstein pimp out children for 8 years, and sent the FBI on the collusion witch hunt instead of going after Epstein Biden sat on those Epstein files for 4 years and did nothing, he sent the FBI after Trump for a loan that he had already paid off... Now leftists care 🤔 Quote The amazing part is that the heavily redacted documents are just a drip of what went down. It's shocking that it can be worse. Leftists here loved it when the LPoC had to submit docs, and every single word on every page was redacted, aside from the dates. Now redacting is bad... Whatever. Quote Have you had a chance to look at any of the information? No. No one has, aside from the info overlords in the CIA and FBI. It will be teated the same way Keith Ellison treated the G Floyd bodycam footage, only this tie there will be no leaks. You can guarantee that every American politician - on both sides of the aisle - that's worth protecting, has been protected. No doubt some will be thrown under the bus for a minor felony, like another Al Franken or Kevin Clinesmith type, but they won't do time. Bottom line: There will be no real justice, there was never a chance of that. My own personal belief is that the Epsteins and Diddys of this world gather blackmail material for the CIA, MI6, the Mossad, etc, and it's really rare for a Prince Andrew type to be affected by it unless there's a reason What justice we do get will be perverted: random people will be found guilty and key players will be protected I'd rather have "not enough guilty men convicted" than have "some innocent men convicted" leftists don't want justice, they only want Trump slandered, and they will drool over every bit of innuendo and gossip they get and exaggerate it's veracity like drunk fishermen leftists will ignore any mound of evidence compiled about Trudeau, Clinton, or any other popular leftist if there was any real dirt on Trump, Biden wouldn't have had to go after him for a loan that he paid off I really think there's a really high chance that the Sister Survivors will become Extortion Inc. We might even see women pretend to have been there tat weren't Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
West Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: I don't want to protect any of them, but the FBI has had their hands on those docs for 5 years now, some even longer than that, and the FBI has a court-documented history of altering evidence before providing it to court. Obama let Epstein pimp out children for 8 years, and sent the FBI on the collusion witch hunt instead of going after Epstein Biden sat on those Epstein files for 4 years and did nothing, he sent the FBI after Trump for a loan that he had already paid off... Now leftists care 🤔 Leftists here loved it when the LPoC had to submit docs, and every single word on every page was redacted, aside from the dates. Now redacting is bad... Whatever. No. No one has, aside from the info overlords in the CIA and FBI. It will be teated the same way Keith Ellison treated the G Floyd bodycam footage, only this tie there will be no leaks. You can guarantee that every American politician - on both sides of the aisle - that's worth protecting, has been protected. No doubt some will be thrown under the bus for a minor felony, like another Al Franken or Kevin Clinesmith type, but they won't do time. Bottom line: There will be no real justice, there was never a chance of that. My own personal belief is that the Epsteins and Diddys of this world gather blackmail material for the CIA, MI6, the Mossad, etc, and it's really rare for a Prince Andrew type to be affected by it unless there's a reason What justice we do get will be perverted: random people will be found guilty and key players will be protected I'd rather have "not enough guilty men convicted" than have "some innocent men convicted" leftists don't want justice, they only want Trump slandered, and they will drool over every bit of innuendo and gossip they get and exaggerate it's veracity like drunk fishermen leftists will ignore any mound of evidence compiled about Trudeau, Clinton, or any other popular leftist if there was any real dirt on Trump, Biden wouldn't have had to go after him for a loan that he paid off I really think there's a really high chance that the Sister Survivors will become Extortion Inc. We might even see women pretend to have been there tat weren't The drip campaign is pretty vile considering left wingers held the levers of power for many years and instead of doing anything about it have decided to politicize child molestation. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 Traditionally there's more money in writing a book and doing lecture circuits talking about their horrible experiences etc etc then there isn't blackmail Turns out lying is more profitable than pointing out other people's lies 2 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
West Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 14 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Traditionally there's more money in writing a book and doing lecture circuits talking about their horrible experiences etc etc then there isn't blackmail Turns out lying is more profitable than pointing out other people's lies The victim industrial complex. Sad Quote
CdnFox Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, West said: The victim industrial complex. Sad Very sad. SOOOO sad. Come listen to how sad it is, tickets start at 75 dollars a pop. That's how it goes . Those two could easily make 20 to 40 k an appearance and be booked for 15 - 20 a year with a decent agent. The book will be worth a million on top of that. This is what our society has come to unfortunately. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Very sad. SOOOO sad. Come listen to how sad it is, tickets start at 75 dollars a pop. Did you see Bill Burr rip into Michelle Obama? "She's doing a book tour and selling out arenas.... What did she do? She didn't get elected, she just picks out the type of China they're gonna use for dinner at the WH. So what's she gonna write about? Chapter 1: "How to know if a dick tastes presidential." 😂 I like Bill Burr, but I was honestly not expecting anything that funny at that moment. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
ironstone Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 On 2/17/2026 at 9:56 PM, robosmith said: You know, like the picture from Epstein's safe that Michael Wolfe described of Trump with two underage topless girls sitting on his lap. The 'incriminating' photo of Trump that was described by Michael Wolfe but not actually published? Why are you not concerned with real photos of Bill in the hot tub? https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2025/12/1200/675/epstein-files-released-011.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
robosmith Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 On 2/19/2026 at 5:30 AM, West said: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/14/nyregion/columbia-settles-with-student-cast-as-a-rapist-in-mattress-art-project.html Duh Evidently this was the hoax the Obama administration used to destroy due process rights for the accused through his butchery of title ix. Democrats have to make up hoaxes to target their adversaries. Sick Your naked link to a paywalled site is completely unconvincing. Quote the part which proves your point. On 2/19/2026 at 8:01 AM, Fluffypants said: Oh yeah Obama showed how much they love "due process" by making an accusation alone good enough to destroy a students future. With Illegal Immigrants they require mutiple court hearing and being allowed to change why they think they should stay even with an order of deportation. Also your not allowed to go after them AT ALL and have to wait till they decide to leave. Obama had nothing to do with it because Democrats RESPECT the "wall" between POTUS and the DoJ. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 On 2/19/2026 at 10:26 AM, West said: Sadly no matter how many receipts you show a leftist about their party's scuzzy behavior they don't care. Ruining a 18 year olds life with false rape allegations is fine if it leads to their end goal of enforcing their warped religion on everyone else. You showed NO "RECEIPTS" just a naked link to a paywalled site. Duh Quote
robosmith Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 On 2/19/2026 at 10:59 AM, WestCanMan said: I don't want to protect any of them, but the FBI has had their hands on those docs for 5 years now, some even longer than that, and the FBI has a court-documented history of altering evidence before providing it to court. Obama let Epstein pimp out children for 8 years, and sent the FBI on the collusion witch hunt instead of going after Epstein Biden sat on those Epstein files for 4 years and did nothing, he sent the FBI after Trump for a loan that he had already paid off... Now leftists care 🤔 Leftists here loved it when the LPoC had to submit docs, and every single word on every page was redacted, aside from the dates. YOU STILL don't understand that the evidence was SEALED after Trump cabinet member Alex Acosta gave Epstein a sweetheart deal that allowed him to continue to prey on girls for the 18 months he spent nights in jail. 🤮 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 6 hours ago, robosmith said: YOU STILL don't understand that the evidence was SEALED after Trump cabinet member Alex Acosta gave Epstein a sweetheart deal that allowed him to continue to prey on girls for the 18 months he spent nights in jail. 🤮 He could have unsealed it as easily as it was sealed Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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