Barquentine Posted January 6 Author Report Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, I am Groot said: So you think lying to people is the thing to admire in a politician? No. Never said that. Who are you confusing me with? 2 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Are you also a fan of Donald Trump? Haven't actually read my posts, have you? 1 Quote
I am Groot Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 4 minutes ago, Barquentine said: No. Never said that. Who are you confusing me with? You're expressing admiration for Carney's ability to lie to people. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: Sound like you're jealous that Carney is proving to be a far better politician PeePee. But he isn't. In fact in every pole Poilievre is holding his own or improving where every pool has carney falling a little bit or losing ground to the cpc. If anything Carney's turning out to be a pretty crappy politician, he's mishandled the number of things and the only reason he isn't crumbling is because people are still saying it's brand new and we should give him a chance. But that's coming to an end. Literally every pundit and poster is saying the same thing, people's patience is running thin. He's promised we would build baby build and so far it's been stall baby stall. He's pissed off the first nations and he's got some severe divisions in his caucus. He spent forever flying to other countries, he's away more than he is at home and he still hasn't brought back a single trade deal. If this guy doesn't manage to buy himself a majority he's going to be gone with him the year 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Check 338. I do regularly, and I look at the individual poles as well. Connie's popularity is falling. Currently a number of pollsters have the conservatives at or above the liberals. A couple of them have the conservatives within range of winning a minority if an election were held today based on the regional breakdowns. If you thought the liberals were doing good you were sadly mistaken. That's why carney is so absolutely desperate to buy himself a majority right now to the point where some conservatives are coming forward and complaining about how much they're being bugged by the liberals to cross the floor 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Not gonna happen. Of course it's going to happen. The NDP will have a new leader, a year will have passed so they electorate will forgive another election, and Carney will likely lose. The best you can hope for is a severely reduced minority Again this is why he is so desperate to buy another floor Crosser the conservatives that have been approached that are coming forward are saying he's going all out to try and do anything he can because he knows he's in real trouble 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
herbie Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 7 hours ago, I am Groot said: Why don't you just come out and admit it? You don't want us to build pipelines to the coast because that would not be in the economic interests of the United States of America. Why don't you grab a brain and make a semi-intelligent reply sometime? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 1 minute ago, herbie said: Why don't you grab a brain and make a semi-intelligent reply sometime? The pot and the kettle would both like to see you outside 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
herbie Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 23 hours ago, TreeBeard said: I’m predicting a PP landslide of support at his convention but an ouster by his MPs in 2026 A la John Rustad. But I got 70% support of the mere handful of voters that showed up..... Quote
CdnFox Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 Just now, herbie said: A la John Rustad. But I got 70% support of the mere handful of voters that showed up..... No I don't think it'll be a mere handful of supporters. I think that convention is going to be fairly well attended But it will have to show that he can change his ways to correct his errors. It's fine and dandy to say that he got such a high percentage of the vote. That's absolutely true and it's a quite an achievement but he needs to break into those areas where he's currently lagging and that's the elderly. And they aren't going to watch YouTube videos Like every politician he will have to either deliver and give people confidence that things will be different next time or he may very well face a palace coup It will also depend a little on whether or not there are more floor crossers. One more does not cinch it for the liberals, but two more will give them a bare majority. That may not last long for various reasons but it might convince enough cPC members that there will be a long time before the next election and it's more attractive to look at replacing a leader when you have a lot of time. Right now a lot of people who may be iffy are saying we could go to an election in any minute this guys are best bet by far. But honestly I think he's going to get one more kick at the can unless the poles just start falling apart. He still pulling it like 41%, it's hard to point to anyone in the wings and say they're going to do better 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: No to cover your own lies and lack of intellect. It's kind of what you do. The problem is you lie so much that if you ever tell the truth nobody will ever be able to tell Yup. I'd make an excellent PM don't you think? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Yup. I'd make an excellent PM don't you think? I think you'd make a great liberal leader if that's of any benefit 😛 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 23 hours ago, TreeBeard said: No one said anything about a veto. But, realistically no one is going to build a pipeline through areas that don’t want it. The Libs will see that this will gain them zero seats in Alberta and cost them 3 seats in BC. That math alone will be enough to, at the very least, put the pipeline in a less politically sensitive area. You can call it what ever you want, the Feds do not need BC premier or Indigenous permission for anything...It will consult with both parties but if they want to drive a pipeline of what ever federal project they will... Those 3 seats the liberals hold are not any where near the projected pipeline routes....Lets not forget that pipelines are popular with BC voters....So i don't think your math problem is going to a road block...Conservatives have been very doubtful about any pipeline going west, Carney may signed a MOU but it is meaningless, and he knows both EBY and Indigenous will never approve it, so Carney wins, no pipeline and he uses EBY and Indigenous leaders as a scape goat... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: I think you'd make a great liberal leader if that's of any benefit 😛 Yes I do. Thanks for not conflating liberal with Liberal. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Army Guy Posted January 6 Report Posted January 6 On 1/4/2026 at 4:45 PM, herbie said: Or is it the lack of market economics that thinks maybe the people of Canada should pay for a pipeline to guarantee the oil companies their profits? No i think we are making the best use of our tax dollars right now,11 plus bil in foreign aid...with very low to none over sight...but hey we are going to to have high speed rail, in 100 years, if Eby or the First nations agree that is... You mean those companies that pay taxes, the people who work those high paying jobs who pay taxes....Damn skippy we should get all our resources to market, including OIL, and if you don't like it, Join the Palestinian protests for freedom they don't like oil or western values either... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 3 hours ago, eyeball said: Yes I do. Thanks for not conflating liberal with Liberal. It really applies either way these days. I mean look at you, you're a liberal who votes Liberal 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 7 Author Report Posted January 7 On 1/6/2026 at 10:31 AM, I am Groot said: You're expressing admiration for Carney's ability to lie to people. Quote where I said that? 1 Quote
herbie Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 You didn't. He made that up just like his determination that Carney lies in the first place. Welcome to the infantile level of discussion predominant on this forum. Just watch how quickly one of the usual gang replies that calling making up things infantile, is in fact what is infantile. Quote
Venandi Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 (edited) On 1/1/2026 at 1:23 PM, Barquentine said: How about yours? Much more of this stuff from people on parole for previous firearm offences and under a lifetime possession ban. https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/man-parole-accused-fatal-shooting-student-scarborough-campus Here's another prediction: there's no end in sight, this will continue until liberal voters get as tired of it as I am and come to realize the problem isn't duck hunters from PEI. Bring back grade 9 pattern recognition and predictive analysis: https://www.tps.ca/organizational-chart/specialized-operations-command/detective-operations/investigative-services/homicide/most-wanted/ Ask me again next year, the answer will be the same, just like it was the year previous. Downvote that Flybaby... Edited January 7 by Venandi Quote
I am Groot Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: Quote where I said that? Quite possible. But even if it's an unfulfilled promise, it's a brilliant political move. And you say he's not a politician? 23 hours ago, herbie said: Why don't you grab a brain and make a semi-intelligent reply sometime? The opposition of the Left to pipelines benefits the US economy, US refineries, and by extension, Donald Trump. It benefits no one in Canada. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
I am Groot Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 2 hours ago, herbie said: You didn't. He made that up just like his determination that Carney lies in the first place. Did anyone ask you to open your little bird beak to squeak your brainless sputum? Anyone doesn't accept that Carney lies is not interested in serious discussion. The man lied when he announced he was running for leader* and has been lying ever since. What? Me move Brookfield to the US? Nooooo. That was someone else. I wasn't even involved! I was... I was gone by then! Oh, well, yes, I did write that letter. I mean, sure, I was still CEO uhm, but anyway, let's move on. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted January 7 Report Posted January 7 7 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Did anyone ask you to open your little bird beak to squeak your brainless sputum? Anyone doesn't accept that Carney lies is not interested in serious discussion. The man lied when he announced he was running for leader* and has been lying ever since. What? Me move Brookfield to the US? Nooooo. That was someone else. I wasn't even involved! I was... I was gone by then! Oh, well, yes, I did write that letter. I mean, sure, I was still CEO uhm, but anyway, let's move on. He also specifically lied about being on the board of directors of a number of organizations. He was asked if he had resigned from all boards and he said yes absolutely. It then turned out he was still a member of several. He offered no explanation but just resigned from those ones and said okay so now I'm not a member of any boards. The guy is dishonest as the day is long Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
herbie Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 3 hours ago, I am Groot said: Did anyone ask you to open your little bird beak The normal people that prefer logical discussion over inane sloganism, incessant lies and personal opinion dressed as fact. Been pointing HOW TO out for years on this forum, but some of you are obviously incapable of learning. Or so close minded you're unwilling to. If you have the foggiest notion that you win an argument by replying 'you are a leftist' you're as simpleminded as anyone can get, so don't waste everyone else's time by replying to shit that over your head. You only prove Dunning-Kruger by being so stupid you believe it's smart. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 2 hours ago, herbie said: The normal people that prefer logical discussion over inane sloganism, incessant lies and personal opinion dressed as fact. How would you know? You're none of those things Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 14 hours ago, I am Groot said: But even if it's an unfulfilled promise, it's a brilliant political move. And you say he's not a politician? Where's the lie? Quote
Barquentine Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 17 hours ago, Venandi said: the problem isn't duck hunters from PEI Pretty sure they're not using automatic weapons. Quote
Venandi Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 (edited) 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Pretty sure they're not using automatic weapons. By and large neither are the thugs in Toronto... automatic weapons were banned in 1978. Toronto has a huge problem with handguns illegally imported from the US... not to mention over capacity magazines, drug fuelled gang wars, gang initiation events and pi$$ weak legal consequences for criminals. Anytime a legal gun and licensed owner are involved in a shooting (statistically a rare thing BTW) it's big news... all information is released immediately. That's usually not the case with the criminal use of illegal guns by unlicensed, prohibited, and out on bail (for previous gun offences) perpetrators... I still have questions about the Danforth and NS shootings. Herb won't believe it but Dunning Kruger comes down to knowledge and experience in specific applications rather than overall intelligence... most of the diversions here are tactical, they're deliberate and statistics are deliberately manipulated by smart people engaged in a coordinated I/O effort. Even so, selling the buy back program as a reasonable and measured event would challenge a Fuller Brush Salesman. The Cape Breton trial netted 25 rifles and my guess is that a number of those came from LEO hobbyists who used them for job related proficiency training. An abysmal performance that qualifies for a hard "F" grade... liberals will claim victory and continue anyway. Even the costs were skewed IMO... it was published as about $23,000 for administration and $40,000 in wages (I couldn't find the actual buyback costs). My guess is that it was more than double that. Edited January 8 by Venandi Quote
Legato Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Pretty sure they're not using automatic weapons. You mean the fully semi-auto firearms? Quote
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