Carney is wrong: Free Trade with America is good

[August1991]

We have been down this path many times

Laurier believed in Reciprocity.

Trudeau said we were a mouse in bed with an elephant.

Mulroney negotiated a deal.

 

 

 

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

Trudeau said we were a mouse in bed with an elephant.

Mulroney negotiated a deal.

 

 

 

51st or no deal. Until Canucks admit to being closet Americans, we shall have 25% tariff on make believe “Canadian” goods.

Edited December 18, 2025 by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

Just now, paxamericana said:

51st or no deal. Until Canucks admit to being closet Americans, we shall have 25% tariff. 

America's in decline. Why would we join somebody who's probably not even going to be irrelevant country in the next 40 years?

[paxamericana]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

America's in decline.

Is that why all the foreign direct investment is going to America? 
 

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Why would we join somebody who's probably not even going to be irrelevant country in the next 40 years?

For now and until the end of history, Canada will still belong to America. Sure the Anglos are going away as an ethnic group in America but that doesn’t have any bearing for the newcomers who looks at Canada and feel the exact same way. You’re a unincorporated territory of America.

[August1991]

23 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

51st or no deal. Until Canucks admit to being closet Americans, we shall have 25% tariff on make believe “Canadian” goods.

Disagree. Strongly.

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You Americans could not wish for a better neighbour.

 

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Is that why all the foreign direct investment is going to America? 

It's pretty common for rats to try and devour a large carcass as a mammal is dying  

 

 

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For now and until the end of history, Canada will still belong to America.

Never has never will.

Come take it kiddo  

[August1991]

And we Canadians - French/English, Catholic/Protestant,  Alberta/Ontario - could not hope for a better neighbor.

[herbie]

Aside from the gross lie implied in the thread title, what the hell makes you even think to imply Carney is or was opposed to Free Trade with the USA?

He's not the one f*cking it up as best her can. He's trying to negotiate continuation and not some 'acceptable' tariff on our exports.

[August1991]

32 minutes ago, herbie said:

Aside from the gross lie implied in the thread title, what the hell makes you even think to imply Carney is or was opposed to Free Trade with the USA?

He's not the one f*cking it up as best her can. He's trying to negotiate continuation and not some 'acceptable' tariff on our exports.

I recently drove to Plattsburgh. No problem entering the US.

Return to Canada?

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We could not hope for better neighbors.

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Never has never will.

Come take it kiddo

Don’t be too excited, you’ll get your new passport and driver license in the mail.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Free trade remains a good thing. Trade with America was good.

[ExFlyer]

5 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Free trade remains a good thing. Trade with America was good.

I agree.
When did Carney ever say Free trade wit the US is bad????

Oh well, another lie trying to erupt from the PP Le Pew crowd LOL

[Moonbox]

12 hours ago, herbie said:

Aside from the gross lie implied in the thread title, what the hell makes you even think to imply Carney is or was opposed to Free Trade with the USA?

This is just the latest in a long tradition of nonsense threads.  The one thing that August does well here is he brings everyone together in one place to read his posts and wonder:

Wtf????

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Don’t be too excited, you’ll get your new passport and driver license in the mail.

HA! Joke's on you, canada post loses stuff constantly and frequently strikes!  We will never be yours!

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

This is just the latest in a long tradition of nonsense threads.  The one thing that August does well here is he brings everyone together in one place to read his posts and wonder:

Wtf????

LOL  even I can't argue with that   

[Legato]

“This decades-long process of an ever-closer economic relationship between the Canadian and U.S. economies is now over,” Carney said in Ottawa recently (1).

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mark-carney-warns-us-canada-140100528.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL_T_tQLpNl9ZR7PkIm7E5sTKSuZ5zCesRwPamo2OOOG42leTvM48oT_HLUYNXDimlBhffUfO03F58ipa2CWpMMsiEHBZMZ8TewClosyT4sA3zEl8aEYqR2skuXcgAP6B3WDRQ5CHwYslM4TsUvaqqFHpqv6HNyqVRonN2agtdq1

[John Stone]

Doubtful the international community would allow the U.S. to annex Canada - it is far too strategic. Shudder to think the deal  the Canucks would need to make and with whom to avoid it. 

I've often wondered why the U.S. didn't annex Mexico in toto at the conclusion of the Mexican-American War tho. That said, they did take a big bite.

Likely had a second chance when  Napoleon III landed on Mexican shores as well. 

Manifest Destiny - missed opportunity. 

Edited December 19, 2025 by John Stone

[paxamericana]

12 hours ago, John Stone said:

Doubtful the international community would allow the U.S. to annex Canada

Really since when did America needed anybody’s permission… 

12 hours ago, John Stone said:

I've often wondered why the U.S. didn't annex Mexico in toto at the conclusion of the Mexican-American War tho. That said, they did take a big bite.

The current border exits because of geography. America took the best land. The Mexican and Canadian got the worse land on the continent. This is the reason why they have a weak central government. Trade being a prerequisite for a stable united society.

Edited December 20, 2025 by paxamericana

[John Stone]

9 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Really since when did America needed anybody’s permission… 

The current border exits because of geography. America took the best land. The Mexican and Canadian got the worse land on the continent. This is the reason why they have a weak central government. Trade being a prerequisite for a stable united society.

good points - but they don't conform to the Manifest Destiny belief for N.A.  

Re; "the rest of the World wouldn't allow  it"? I was referring to blowback of any Nation taking possession of such an increasingly strategic piece of real estate. European history is a good study on this type of thing. The global community would put extreme diplomatic / economic pressure on the U.S.  x2  if China does become the #1 Global economy (dread that). It wouldn't be worth the squeeze - esp since Canada is more than willing to support the U.S. (language, culture,  language, values)  - it IS after all an ally. 

All that said, annexation would conform to the Manifest Destiny. 

Strategically, Canada's strategic / economic value will only increase  this century - water, minerals, educated workforce, Tim Horton's, ENERGY- treasure trove, baby! 

Not sure if we're actively trying to shit the pit right now, but those that think that way should  be forgiven. 

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, John Stone said:

 Tim Horton's 

🤣 and Couche-Tard... which continues its success in the US despite the NAME !

 

https://www.cspdailynews.com/company-news/couche-tards-getgo-acquisition-fuels-us-merchandise-growth-foodservice-margins

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

🤣 and Couche-Tard... which continues its success in the US despite the NAME !

 

https://www.cspdailynews.com/company-news/couche-tards-getgo-acquisition-fuels-us-merchandise-growth-foodservice-margins

Yes who would have thought a food made by North Americans for Americans would be popular in America…. More evidence of Canadian dissonance! 

Edited December 20, 2025 by paxamericana

[John Stone]

4 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Yes who would have thought a food made by North Americans would be popular in America…. More evidence of Canadian dissonance! 

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 12/18/2025 at 12:45 AM, August1991 said:

And we Canadians - French/English, Catholic/Protestant,  Alberta/Ontario - could not hope for a better neighbor.

Western Europe has better neighbours. They have learned to truly respect each other. By contrast, the US is barely able to cope with a trade area of three countries. 

[paxamericana]

21 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

better neighbours. have learned to truly respect each other. By contrast, the US is…

Let me know when Canada starts behaving like a good neighbor. When your national pastime isn’t pretending to not being Americans then maybe we can have some serious conversation about trade and how to leverage Canadian resources for American businesses. 

Edited December 20, 2025 by paxamericana

[Michael Hardner]

47 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Yes who would have thought a food made by North Americans for Americans would be popular in America…. More evidence of Canadian dissonance! 

Couche-Tard is.... a food ?  🤔

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Let me know when Canada starts behaving like a good neighbor. When your national pastime isn’t pretending to not being Americans then maybe we can have some serious conversation about trade.

We're the original Americans... you started acting weird and kinda revolting ... 😆

[herbie]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Couche-Tard is.... a food ?  🤔

Well when you're used to eating sawdust, anti-freeze and fillers in everything it could be. One Couche-Tard could feed a family for a week.And no antibiotics, hormones or Red #2 either.