Trump, Mike Stivic & Archie Bunker

[August1991]

Rob Reiner hated Donald Trump.

Carroll O'Connor was a good actor.

[robosmith]

32 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Rob Reiner hated Donald Trump.

Carroll O'Connor was a good actor.

Rob Reiner knew what Trump was/is.

[John Stone]

[Radiorum]

23 hours ago, August1991 said:

Rob Reiner hated Donald Trump.

I have a problem with this. You cannot possibly know what was in Reiner's heart. 

Could it be that instead of hate, he was acting from a place of love - love of his country?

[gatomontes99]

13 hours ago, Radiorum said:

I have a problem with this. You cannot possibly know what was in Reiner's heart. 

Could it be that instead of hate, he was acting from a place of love - love of his country?

No

[WestCanMan]

On 12/18/2025 at 5:12 PM, Radiorum said:

I have a problem with this. You cannot possibly know what was in Reiner's heart. 

Could it be that instead of hate, he was acting from a place of love - love of his country?

What would a terrorist supporter know about "love of one's country"?

Go get your vest and your 72 virgins already, coward. 

[Nationalist]

On 12/17/2025 at 9:03 PM, August1991 said:

Rob Reiner hated Donald Trump.

Carroll O'Connor was a good actor.

What's the point of this?

[Deluge]

On 12/17/2025 at 7:03 PM, August1991 said:

Rob Reiner hated Donald Trump.

Carroll O'Connor was a good actor.

All leftoids hate Donald Trump. 

Nobody gives a sh*t that leftoids hate Donald Trump. 

[August1991]

On 12/22/2025 at 2:41 PM, Deluge said:

All leftoids hate Donald Trump. 

Nobody gives a sh*t that leftoids hate Donald Trump. 

Well said.

 

[John Stone]

Archie had the courage to say what the majority were thinking and didn't GAF - somewhat akin to Trump. 

[eyeball]

Archie had enough sense to give his head a shake and take his well earned lumps gracefully. He wound up woke to something new by the end of just about every episode. The majority who thought like him maybe not so much.

[TreeBeard]

7 hours ago, John Stone said:

Archie had the courage to say what the majority were thinking and didn't GAF - somewhat akin to Trump. 

This is so hilarious that this is a common conservative misconception.  Bunker was mocked as a backward bigot who was being left behind as society got more progressive.   That’s obvious to everyone who used to watch the show.  
 

https://youtu.be/khnHZ1wVdDc

Edited December 26, 2025 by TreeBeard

[John Stone]

The, SITCOM, 'All in the Family' could never exist today - the Left wouldn't allow it. 

I get it?

However, to say that AB diatribes didn't  reflect what the majority were thinking is to ignore two facts; General 2024  and the Sitcoms popularity. 

Could Bunkers rhetoric play a role in any election during it's heyday - hell, no! 

NO prospective nominee would EVER quote AB at that time........... 'locker room  talk'?

Today, hell, yes! 

The gloves are OFF, baby.

 

[Michael Hardner]

18 minutes ago, John Stone said:

The, SITCOM, 'All in the Family' could never exist today - the Left wouldn't allow it. 

I get it?

However, to say that AB diatribes didn't  reflect what the majority were thinking is to ignore two facts; General 2024  and the Sitcoms popularity. 

Could Bunkers rhetoric play a role in any election during it's heyday - hell, no! 

NO prospective nominee would EVER quote AB at that time........... 'locker room  talk'?

Today, hell, yes! 

The gloves are OFF, baby.

 

A few points:

You underestimate the ability of good writing to frame such a character in the way that he could be considered as having a considerable, if not valid, point of view.

The Colbert Report character, modelled after right wing bogeyman O'Reilly was just that.

Secondly, the idea that the "left" has significant impact on the Zeitgeist today is as archaic as the practice of using the words "the left" to describe actual leftists.

Dave Chappelle, Bill Maher, Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens, Megyn Kelly, The View...  watch what you want.

You might, if you dare, watch something that challenges your views though I doubt that many on here do...

 

[John Stone]

RE: You underestimate the ability of good writing to frame such a character in the way that he could be considered as having a considerable, if not valid, point of view.

My political point exactly. 

It's proven to work .......... quite recently in fact ......... continues to work.

Please don't get confused with opinion polls showing a decline in Trump's popularity and the continued support of those same people willing to "pull the lever for him"

Call him AB as a pejorative is you must .............. but it has worked for him, continues to work for him and will work for him again unless there is some shake up in the Left. 

REALPOLITIK? 

No question.