Canadian Constitution needs updating to protect property owners in Canada

[blackbird]

Private property is under attack by the BC NDP and FNs.  The only way to protect the people who own property is to amend the Canadian Constitution.  If not, things for property owners in BC and possibly Canada will get worse.  The reason is because FN's rights are recognized but property owner's rights are not enshrined in the Constitution.  That needs to change soon.

The Free Press said:

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What if someone told you that your home really belongs to the people who lived there 150 years ago? It’s happening in Canada.

After an 11-year legal battle and a 513-day trial that is the longest in Canadian history, a judge ruled in August that the indigenous Cowichan Nation holds “Aboriginal title” over 800 acres of land—including a swath along Road No. 6 that includes Batth’s house and fields. The decision was a seismic shift in Canadian property law, declaring for the first time that indigenous land rights are greater than the rights held by private owners like Batth. It seemed unimaginable, but it was real.

Tom Isaac, a well-known expert in indigenous law who advises businesses and governments, said that the judge’s ruling “erased 99 percent of the words” on property titles held by the current owners in the black zone. “It makes us the only jurisdiction in the Western Hemisphere where a supposedly guaranteed and indefeasible land title is defeasible.”

He added, “If that isn’t radical, if that isn’t shocking, I don’t know what else is.”   unquote

 

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2025 by blackbird

[Michael Hardner]

Does it matter to you who is taking the land or for what reasons ?

The Government also takes land for its own purposes, and sometimes gives it to people it favours...

This happens in many countries (in the USA governments have seized land to sell to WalMart - 2 links) although some countries (like China) guarantee the homeowner rights.... see photo.

Seems that ideology is susceptible to lower-level politics in such things.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/photos-of-chinese-homes-owned-by-people-who-refuse-to-sell/

[Nefarious Banana]

Roll over Mike.  It's what you do best.

[Goddess]

14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Does it matter to you who is taking the land or for what reasons ?

???

So..... you're okay with someone taking over your house and land, because they heard their great-grandmother once picked berries there?

I say YOU start by turning over your property and home.

No scratch that - the politicians should start.  Turn over all their properties to the indigenous.

 

[Zeitgeist]

What’s happening in BC with the court’s disregard for land titles AND the BC government’s implementation of an international declaration on Indigenous rights (UNDRIP) illustrates exactly why Canadians should question the views driving their various levels of government.  Ontario is coming under similar pressure in court rulings in places like Saugeen Beach.  Our Constitution has no protection of property thanks to a bad deal made with the NDP in the Pierre Trudeau era.

This lack of property protection is one of the factors that makes Canadian sovereignty vulnerable. If arguments brought forward by people today regarding land that belonged to ancestors centuries ago is enough to overturn private property title, Canadians will embrace citizenship in a country that will protect their property title, namely the United States.

The truth that Canadians are grudgingly realizing is that mamby pamby government that sells out Canadian culture in order to avoid confrontation with radical activists or politically correct internationalists is destroying Canada.  J.D. Vance was right on Canada and Europe: Governments in these jurisdictions are undermining the rights, cultures, and interests of taxpaying citizens. Canadian French and English cultures, the founding cultures of Canada, have been de facto labeled colonial by the government and replaced with international mandates and multiculturalism.  Questionable claims by Indigenous groups, many of whose ancestors kept slaves, warred against other tribes, and were largely nomadic or lived only a few years in one place, are suddenly able to overturn property title because of recent implementation of international rules that Canadians never agreed to.

Rather than affirming Canadian identity and making it affordable and respected to have kids, the government simply opens the floodgates to mass migration from countries with very different values from these Judeo-Christian founding cultures.  This is the story in Canada and Europe   This is why Western Christendom and Western culture is disappearing.  For whatever else Trump is doing that I might disagree with, he is the only Western world leader of a major power pushing back against “civilizational erasure.”

 

Edited December 11, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[suds]

14 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

What’s happening in BC with the court’s disregard for land titles AND the BC government’s implementation of an international declaration on Indigenous rights (UNDRIP) illustrates exactly why Canadians should question the views driving their various levels of government.

Can you really blame the court's disregarding of land titles when they're merely interpreting laws that government has already passed? If that is the case and I were a judge, I'd say... if you don't like my ruling then change the bloody laws. Or is there something else at play here? Former Minister of Indian Affairs Chuck Strahl once said that UNDRIP 'throws out the balance between collective and individual rights'. In a constitutional democracy should native rights trump all other rights? Of course not. I'm all for reconciliation but sensible reconciliation. As for the Constitution I'm all for enshrining property rights, but get this mess straitened out first before even contemplating it.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Roll over Mike.  It's what you do best.

I'm flattered that you think you know me.  I don't remember you, though.

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

 

1. So..... you're okay with someone taking over your house and land, because they heard their great-grandmother once picked berries there?

2. I say YOU start by turning over your property and home.

3. No scratch that - the politicians should start.  Turn over all their properties to the indigenous.

 

1. I didn't say that at all.  
2. 3. Getting riled up over your assumption of my opinion on something...

[Legato]

[Zeitgeist]

44 minutes ago, suds said:

Can you really blame the court's disregarding of land titles when they're merely interpreting laws that government has already passed? If that is the case and I were a judge, I'd say... if you don't like my ruling then change the bloody laws. Or is there something else at play here? Former Minister of Indian Affairs Chuck Strahl once said that UNDRIP 'throws out the balance between collective and individual rights'. In a constitutional democracy should native rights trump all other rights? Of course not. I'm all for reconciliation but sensible reconciliation. As for the Constitution I'm all for enshrining property rights, but get this mess straitened out first before even contemplating it.

I see this as a direct result of media narratives and government policies that paint a picture of good guys and bad, with some groups treated as better or more virtuous than others on the basis of race or ethnicity.  Basically the old racism against Indigenous has turned into racism against the white “settler colonialists”.   Of course both narratives are lies and used to extract special privileges through the courts or among the voting public.  Canada, a country with one of the least amounts of violence and racism, is characterized by its own government as akin to Nazi Germany or apartheid South Africa.  Such portrayals are unfair, divisive, and can only lead to reactions, because most people aren’t that stupid to simply ignore facts and take extreme positions.

Recent Canadian governments have done this repeatedly to look virtuous and progressive for domestic and international audiences.  The result is a more divided society where the general public senses that unfairness is rampant because people aren’t being judged as individuals by how they treat people, what they do, or what their qualifications are, but rather by which identity groups they belong to.  

Edited December 11, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[John Stone]

25 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I see this as a direct result of media narratives and government policies that paint a picture of good guys and bad, with some groups treated as better or more virtuous than others on the basis of race or ethnicity.  Basically the old racism against Indigenous has turned into racism against the white “settler colonialists”.   Of course both narratives are lies and used to extract special privileges through the courts or among the voting public.  Canada, a country with one of the least amounts of violence and racism, is characterized by its own government as akin to Nazi Germany or apartheid South Africa.  Such portrayals are unfair, divisive, and can only lead to reactions, because most people aren’t that stupid to simply ignore facts and take extreme positions.

Recent Canadian governments have done this repeatedly to look virtuous and progressive for domestic and international audiences.  The result is a more divided society where the general public senses that unfairness is rampant because people aren’t being judged as individuals by how they treat people, what they do, or what their qualifications are, but rather by which identity groups they belong to.  

.......... historical guilt is powerful juju - it can  and will be used against you.

What are ya, a racist? (sarc)

[Michael Hardner]

30 minutes ago, Legato said:

This is a discussion board.

Do you have any thoughts of your own, or just some memes you want to toss out ?

Thanks for not trying...

28 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I see this as a direct result of media narratives and government policies that paint a picture of good guys and bad, with some groups treated as better or more virtuous than others on the basis of race or ethnicity.  

I see a lot of value in a collective dispelling of the "bad guys" myth at all levels.

This is something that the left and right seize on to manipulate people, and it's pretty uncommon to meet a through-and-through BAD or GOOD person.

[blackbird]

I would write a letter or Email to my MP, but I have written before about an important issue and didn't even receive an acknowledgement.  I don't hold out much hope that a letter or Email will accomplish anything, but maybe I should send an Email anyway in an attempt to express concern.

Edited December 11, 2025 by blackbird

[herbie]

Here we go again, dewpite no evidence natives wish to take your private property, despite actual sworn evidence they don't, continue the LIE that they do over and over again.

Start yet another thread about the same thing and deny it's for reasons that boil down to racist attitudes while you're at it.

[Legato]

57 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

This is a discussion board.

Do you have any thoughts of your own, or just some memes you want to toss out ?

Thanks for not trying...

 

Triggered lefty is triggered.

[Zeitgeist]

7 hours ago, blackbird said:

I would write a letter or Email to my MP, but I have written before about an important issue and didn't even receive an acknowledgement.  I don't hold out much hope that a letter or Email will accomplish anything, but maybe I should send an Email anyway in an attempt to express concern.

I think there’s a sense of complacency and entitlement amongst our leaders, as well as a kind of infantile powerlessness among the public.  It’s how we got red light and speed cameras, tax grabs no one wants.  

Edited December 12, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[taxme]

7 hours ago, blackbird said:

Private property is under attack by the BC NDP and FNs.  The only way to protect the people who own property is to amend the Canadian Constitution.  If not, things for property owners in BC and possibly Canada will get worse.  The reason is because FN's rights are recognized but property owner's rights are not enshrined in the Constitution.  That needs to change soon.

The Free Press said:

quote

What if someone told you that your home really belongs to the people who lived there 150 years ago? It’s happening in Canada.

After an 11-year legal battle and a 513-day trial that is the longest in Canadian history, a judge ruled in August that the indigenous Cowichan Nation holds “Aboriginal title” over 800 acres of land—including a swath along Road No. 6 that includes Batth’s house and fields. The decision was a seismic shift in Canadian property law, declaring for the first time that indigenous land rights are greater than the rights held by private owners like Batth. It seemed unimaginable, but it was real.

Tom Isaac, a well-known expert in indigenous law who advises businesses and governments, said that the judge’s ruling “erased 99 percent of the words” on property titles held by the current owners in the black zone. “It makes us the only jurisdiction in the Western Hemisphere where a supposedly guaranteed and indefeasible land title is defeasible.”

He added, “If that isn’t radical, if that isn’t shocking, I don’t know what else is.”   unquote

 

 

 

 

Go watch a documentary called "Making a Killing". It is all about how the BC government has lied about the residential schools story and that the so called historical event was all just a lie. We are all still waiting to see all of these Indian children's bones being dug up which the many Indian Chiefs knows did not happen and do not want the so called burial sites dug up because they know that they are lying and nothing happened at all. 

And now owners of homes on now claimed Indian land are now going to have a big problem for anyone who now has property on now claimed Indian land. For the next few years those land owners will not be able to sell their land nor be able to renew their future mortgage applications. 

This is what we get when the many lieberal dummies out there keep putting in the NDP communists in Victoria who do not believe that anyone should own property here in BC. White people are getting screwed more and more every day, thanks in part to our own white lieberal/NDP communist leader politicians who appear to hate their own white skin. just my opinion. 

[taxme]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Does it matter to you who is taking the land or for what reasons ?

The Government also takes land for its own purposes, and sometimes gives it to people it favours...

This happens in many countries (in the USA governments have seized land to sell to WalMart - 2 links) although some countries (like China) guarantee the homeowner rights.... see photo.

Seems that ideology is susceptible to lower-level politics in such things.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/photos-of-chinese-homes-owned-by-people-who-refuse-to-sell/

So, what's your point, comrade? 🤡 

Yes indeed it does matter to those that are now caught up in this NDP communist fiasco battle where the owners who are now supposedly living on Indian land have a lot to lose. But what the phk do you care, eh comrade MH. You probably do not own any property on that now claimed Indian land by a bunch of ungrateful ingrates who never built or invented anything in all of their lazy lives. This is just another kick in the white man's ass. 👎