New poll shows majority of Canadians want NO new immigration.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Expect a shrinkage in our economy until we can diversify our economy away from the USA.  It’s going to be years of economic pain.   This is expected.

I would have thought so simply because our birth rate is falling and there's fewer immigrants coming in.

In any case when GDP shrinks there's a graph somewhere in the scheme of things with a line going up that shows trees are getting bigger instead of being cut down, schools of fish are getting bigger instead of being caught and aquifers are filling up instead of being drawn down.

There is a silver lining. It's not all doom and gloom.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

In any case when GDP shrinks there's a graph somewhere in the scheme of things with a line going up that shows trees are getting bigger instead of being cut down, schools of fish are getting bigger instead of being caught and aquifers are filling up instead of being drawn down.

 

No there isn't, who told you that?

The last time the GDP shrunk was the great recession back in 2009, show me a graph anywhere that showed there were more fish or the trees got bigger instead of being cut down or anything like that. The aquifers didn't change

Give your head a shake

[ironstone]

10 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Who in their right mind expects anything different when our largest trading partner is in multiple trade wars, including with us?  
 

Expect a shrinkage in our economy until we can diversify our economy away from the USA.  It’s going to be years of economic pain.   This is expected. 
 

Carney is headed to China.  Expect increased trade with them.  Hopefully EVs that meet our current standards. 

You blame the sad state of our economy on Trump. In this case I actually agree with Mark Carney. He said this:

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Mark Carney stated that Canada's economy was already weak before the threats from President Trump, attributing this to a significant increase in the labor force due to immigration and government spending that outpaced economic growth.

[TreeBeard]

3 hours ago, ironstone said:

You blame the sad state of our economy on Trump. In this case I actually agree with Mark Carney. He said this:

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Mark Carney stated that Canada's economy was already weak before the threats from President Trump, attributing this to a significant increase in the labor force due to immigration and government spending that outpaced economic growth.

So you expected an already weak economy, weekended further by trade wars with our largest trading nation, to perk right up in Carney’s 1st few months?  
 

😂 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

So you expected an already weak economy, weekended further by trade wars with our largest trading nation, to perk right up in Carney’s 1st few months?  
 

😂

 

But that's what carney said he would do. That was his promise. He was going to "build baby build " and he was going to supercharge the economy and he was going to catalyze literally everything in sight and we would move at a pace never before seen in our history

So what you reply boils down to is "what, you actually believed him???? BWAAAHAHAHAAH~" 

  

[Legato]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

So you expected an already weak economy, weekended further by trade wars with our largest trading nation, to perk right up in Carney’s 1st few months?  
 

😂

 

Well with the Carney meandering around Europe signing memorandums of joint agreement, polishing his elbows polka and learning the Brookfield fandango. All will be hunky dory in another 20 years, just wait and see.

[I am Groot]

22 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure, these places are just dripping with progressiveness - why they're practically woke.

No, they're racist, misogynistic, homophobic, and antisemitic.

And so are the immigrants from these places.

 

[ironstone]

6 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

So you expected an already weak economy, weekended further by trade wars with our largest trading nation, to perk right up in Carney’s 1st few months?  
 

😂

 

I would place most of the blame on bad Liberal policies from 2015 to the present day.

[eyeball]

22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But that's what carney said he would do. That was his promise.

😭

So what you reply boils down to is "what, you actually believed him????

Meanwhile it's you people who bawl like disappointed little kids on Christmas morning.

[Goddess]

58 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Meanwhile it's you people who bawl like disappointed little kids on Christmas morning.

Why is it so important to you that Liberal party failures never be mentioned or discussed?

[eyeball]

52 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Why is it so important to you that Liberal party failures never be mentioned or discussed?

They fail just on account of their name don't they?

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Meanwhile it's you people who bawl like disappointed little kids on Christmas morning.

You mean that it's OUR fault that we point out that he lied and didn't keep his promise, or even try to.  Not HIS fault for failing to do so   

LOL you blame harper for trudeau's corruption and you blame us for carney's lies.   And you're trying to tell me you're NOT a Liberal supporter? You blame everyone else for everything they do, you're practically overqualified  

Edited January 9 by CdnFox

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You mean that it's OUR fault that we point out that he lied and didn't keep his promise or even try to.

You have a copy of the contract you signed?

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL you blame harper for trudeau's corruption and you blame us for carney's lies.   

No, I laugh at your notion Harper's legislation caught and punished Trudeau and roll my eyes at what tender little snowflakes you are when politicians don't keep their promises.

Unless it's Harper then you're all like, 'what promise'?

 

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

You have a copy of the contract you signed?

 

Sure, and I'll show it to you for only $100 a week! (Got to try to get my tax dollars back from you liberals one way or another  

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

No, I laugh at your notion Harper's legislation caught and punished Trudeau

Oh look at you trying to change the subject again as soon as you realize you've lost.

And you may have heard of the snc scandal, that happened because of harper's law. So you're a two-time loser   

 

Edited January 10 by CdnFox

[paxamericana]

The problem with having sub replacement birth rates is that you need a never ending supply of immigrants. That brings its own problem as Canadians found out. And here’s the kicker. Once you start that process it can’t stop because once again you’re not at replacement birthrates. This means there’s not enough workers to support the pension system or any other government services including military. You’re in a one way downward spiral. That is unless you start having more birth or import massive amount of new people who changes the face of Canadian society. Canada’s only option is to become a State if it wishes to preserve its culture and maintain government services. Some of you have begun to realize this and I encourage you to share the truth with one another. Being spiteful of American integration is just prolonging your own pointless suffering. Canada will be an American state sooner or later. @Zeitgeist

Edited January 10 by paxamericana

[John Stone]

.......... supposedly Trudeau initially was trending towards 500k immigrants a year. 

Take a breath and just speculate on how that number would affect the status quo of a country with a population of what, 35 million. 

How in the name of all that's holy could that number ever be absorbed?

Whatever National feelings based on history the country might have had would likely evaporate. 

They  say that Canada's best culture is found in it's yogurt - how  much more true would that be with those immigration projections?

Was that guy (Trudeau) completely bonkers, incompetent or immature?

All three?

[Goddess]

22 hours ago, eyeball said:

They fail just on account of their name don't they?

I don't know what this cryptic answer means.

You're saying they have no failures?

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And you may have heard of the snc scandal, that happened because of harper's law.

So now you're saying it was his fault.

LMAO!

[eyeball]

17 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I don't know what this cryptic answer means.

You're saying they have no failures?

No, I'm just saying they're Liberal..liberal...whatever.

Maybe even both on occasion.

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, I'm just saying they're Liberal..liberal...whatever.

Maybe even both on occasion.

The question was - why is it so important to you that Liberal party failures are never mentioned or discussed?

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The question was - why is it so important to you that Liberal party failures are never mentioned or discussed?

Its not that it's unimportant it's because there's little point. I was pointing out their failures and worse almost 50 years ago. You say I'm lying so what's the point? 

I could try it your way and conclude you're just a liar and its you who loves the Liberals and you're a card carrying member etc.

But that just doesn't ring true so...maybe you're just retarded. That makes most sense.

[I am Groot]

3 hours ago, paxamericana said:

The problem with having sub replacement birth rates is that you need a never ending supply of immigrants. That brings its own problem as Canadians found out. And here’s the kicker. Once you start that process it can’t stop because once again you’re not at replacement birthrates.

So what? Japan's population has been shrinking and they're still doing fine, at least compared to us. I'd also suggest that the decline in birth rates has been at least partially encouraged by the flood of newcomers and the rising costs and lower wages that has caused.

3 hours ago, paxamericana said:

This means there’s not enough workers to support the pension system or any other government services including military.

We don't need workers to support the CPP. It's self-supporting. And our military used to be twice the size it is now when we had a population half the size it is now.

3 hours ago, paxamericana said:

You’re in a one way downward spiral. That is unless you start having more birth or import massive amount of new people who changes the face of Canadian society.

No. We could just let our population decline for a while. That would mean much cheaper housing and higher wages.

3 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Canada’s only option is to become a State if it wishes to preserve its culture and maintain government services. Some of you have begun to realize this and I encourage you to share the truth with one another. Being spiteful of American integration is just prolonging your own pointless suffering. Canada will be an American state sooner or later.

The idea of a 'state' the size of Canada is ludicrous. If Trump had been serious, as opposed to just taunting Trudeau, he'd have said ten states. And may I remind you that the US also has a below-replacement birth rate?

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, John Stone said:

.......... supposedly Trudeau initially was trending towards 500k immigrants a year. 

Take a breath and just speculate on how that number would affect the status quo of a country with a population of what, 35 million. 

How in the name of all that's holy could that number ever be absorbed?

Whatever National feelings based on history the country might have had would likely evaporate. 

They  say that Canada's best culture is found in it's yogurt - how  much more true would that be with those immigration projections?

Was that guy (Trudeau) completely bonkers, incompetent or immature?

All three?

The Left in Canada has had a massive, sneering sense of disrespect for English Canada's culture for decades. This is partly because our culture is British, and in order to please Quebec and make them feel less alienated, the Liberals set about cutting away at all the cultural underpinnings of English Canada's historical and traditional Britishness. After decades of effort, they have largely succeeded, especially when combined with the importation of millions of people from other cultures, and the expressed determination not to offend them by imposing our culture on them. Anything that was seen by white liberals to be potentially offensive to either Francophones or newcomers was swept away or at least watered down, and anyone who objected was labelled a racist. 

Trudeau was just the ultimate expression of that largely white liberal sentiment, a man who'd never have succeeded if the ground hadn't been prepared for him by years and years of indoctrination and bullshit, much like Trump would never have gotten elected in the US if the ground hadn't been prepared for him by years of stupidity.

[I am Groot]

On 1/8/2026 at 12:27 PM, TreeBeard said:

So you expected an already weak economy, weekended further by trade wars with our largest trading nation, to perk right up in Carney’s 1st few months?  

A government that was going to move faster than any government we'd ever seen before! Then he gets elected and sends the House on vacation for four months. What has he done so far for the economy? Not the end results, but done to allow for a significant improvement? Nothing, I can see. He's borrowing more money and spending more money. Is that what you mean? Maybe he'll do stuff someday, but no sign of more than talk just yet. He might even order some weapons for the military eventually, though it's become apparent industrial benefits are more important than the quality of the weapons or the timing on when they can be produced.

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

So now you're saying it was his fault.

LMAO!

The snc scandal? YES that was trudeau's fault!  I know you don't want to believe that, you believe everything justin did that was wrong was harper's fault or someone else's but YES.. IT WAS JUSTIN"S FAULT!!

 And he got busted by harper's law.  The fact that harper made what he did illegal doesn't make the fact he did it harper's fault. 

Lies and denial are the basis for all left wing thinking these days,.