Postal workers back on strike over Canada Post changes, union says

[CdnFox]

Postal workers back on strike over Canada Post changes, union says

Sadly, carney did the right thing as far as what the correct solution to Canada posts problems are, but he didn't understand the politics.

Now he's going to have a new labor crisis to deal with and no matter how he handles it he's going to look bad

And the Canada Post employees are shooting themselves in the foot. This is not going to win any support

[ExFlyer]

Another union screwed it's members!!!

Demand more and more from a failing company instead of helping keep it in business.

So, go on strike....and watch your jobs disappear.

The public has no sympathy for the union members, let alone the Post Office.

Edited September 25, 2025 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Another union screwed it's members!!!

Demand more and more from a failing company instead of helping keep it in business.

So, go on strike....and watch your jobs disappear.

The public has no sympathy for the union members, let alone the Post Office.

One of those rare times when we agree.

The union should be focused on making sure that these changes allow the remaining postal workers to get the best pay and benefits, and that those displaced are compensated fairly.  They should not trying to preserve jobs that just can't be justified anymore.

After the last go around I started moving all of our contractors and workers over to online banking so that cheques wouldn't be a problem, we already get all invoices by email, and we're taking other steps to get rid of the need for canada post. 

They're just making things worse. 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

....no matter how he handles anything he's going to look bad

FIFY.

If Carney fixed climate change, zeroed Canada's credit card, solved world peace and warp sped a cure for cancer you'd be like;

 

[herbie]

If you expected me, a lifetime union backer to rant and rave, sorry to disappoint you all.
The govt has a f*cking right to determine the future of the Post Office and what it handles.
And the postal union has about 0.1% backing from the public.

My whole town's always had to go to the PO for their mail, you can waddle down to the corner.
Get them urban posties in trucks to door deliver just parcels and do it on Saturdays too. If that means fewer humping by foot, too bad. Let them age out, retire or hang on hoping for a buyout.

Shopping from home is exploding and the PO can get with it, where the money is, or just hand it all over to couriers and fade away forever.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm really disappointed in Carney and realize that it's wrong to vote liberal

 

FIFY

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If Carney fixed climate change, zeroed Canada's credit card, solved world peace and warp sped a cure for cancer you'd be like;

The opposite is true.  I'd be over the moon and would probably vote for the guy to keep that going.  I care about results. 

The problem is he's doing the opposite. 

He's racking up our credit card even faster than trudeau did, looking at around 100 billion a year.  That is completely unsustainable and we're going to be crippled by it.

He's prolonging war by rewarding terrorists for bad behavior, encouraging further bad behavior in the future.  "hey, kill a bunch of jews and we'll recognize your country"

and he's crippling the gov'ts ability to deliver social services like medicine. "Cure" cancer? We're not even going to be able to afford to treat it soon. 

 

Yet, you will continue to support him and vote for him. Because gotta Pown the right, amirite?

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

If you expected me, a lifetime union backer to rant and rave, sorry to disappoint you all.

 Nobody expects anything from you big guy. Most don't even remember you're here   

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The govt has a f*cking right to determine the future of the Post Office and what it handles.
And the postal union has about 0.1% backing from the public.

My whole town's always had to go to the PO for their mail, you can waddle down to the corner.
Get them urban posties in trucks to door deliver just parcels and do it on Saturdays too. If that means fewer humping by foot, too bad. Let them age out, retire or hang on hoping for a buyout.

Shopping from home is exploding and the PO can get with it, where the money is, or just hand it all over to couriers and fade away forever.

 

True. and businesses are more and more moving away from things that require a post office, getting online with bills and payments and notices and the like. 

It's just a losing battle for them. 

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

FIFY

Why? I knew that decades before anyone had even heard of Carney.

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yet, you will continue to support him and vote for him. Because gotta Pown the right, amirite?

LMAO! He is the right from where I'm sitting Chief.

[CdnFox]

46 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Why? I knew that decades before anyone had even heard of Carney.

 

Oh look we're at the part where you realize you look like a twat and try to play it off as  a joke  LOLOL

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LMAO! He is the right from where I'm sitting Chief.

And yet you'll support him, squaw  

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And yet you'll support him,

Your assessment and criticisms of Carney make it virtually impossible not to support him. If you think you're helping Poilievre's chances I've told you before you're the best argument there is for staying away from him. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Your assessment and criticisms of Carney make it virtually impossible not to support him.

I suppose for someone who's inherently evil that's true. 

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If you think you're helping Poilievre's chances I've told you before you're the best argument there is for staying away from him. 

I suppose for someone who hates truth and facts and prefers self delusion that's true. 

[Barquentine]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

carney did the right thing as far as what the correct solution to Canada posts problems are, but he didn't understand the politics.

Now he's going to have a new labor crisis to deal with and no matter how he handles it he's going to look bad

And the Canada Post employees are shooting themselves in the foot. This is not going to win any support

Yes he did.And I'm sure these changes will go through without too much difficulty. But I've had a  side gig for about 20 years where I send a lot of medium sized parcels across North America. I almost always used CPC. The few times I used private delivery they were ridiculously expensive and often incompetent (untrained min. wage workers) Parcel delivery will continue to rise and CPC should concentrate there.

Now we need to raise the CPP age to 67. I woulld do it in 2 steps- up to 66 in 2 years and up to 67 3 years later.

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Yes he did.And I'm sure these changes will go through without too much difficulty. But I've had a  side gig for about 20 years where I send a lot of medium sized parcels across North America. I almost always used CPC. The few times I used private delivery they were ridiculously expensive and often incompetent (untrained min. wage workers) Parcel delivery will continue to rise and CPC should concentrate there.

Now we need to raise the CPP age to 67. I woulld do it in 2 steps- up to 66 in 2 years and up to 67 3 years later.

I agree that there will not be any disruption to the delivery of the mail with these changes.

I do challenge you on the private delivery services being poor due to untrained min wage employees. Training is done to accomplish the tasks and wage is what the job is worth. Canada Post mailmen and delivery people are worth the same as private enterprise delivery people.

As for CPP at 67? Why? I worked for up to 50 years and paid into CPP, why should I not get it at 65?? Why make people work extra years?? If you have a real reason then start another topic about this.

Edited September 26, 2025 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Yes he did.And I'm sure these changes will go through without too much difficulty. But I've had a  side gig for about 20 years where I send a lot of medium sized parcels across North America. I almost always used CPC. The few times I used private delivery they were ridiculously expensive and often incompetent (untrained min. wage workers) Parcel delivery will continue to rise and CPC should concentrate there.

Now we need to raise the CPP age to 67. I woulld do it in 2 steps- up to 66 in 2 years and up to 67 3 years later.

Ok, all you guys gotta stop saying stuff i agree with, it's freaking me the eff out  

For the most part i agree,  but interestingly nowadays private couriers are the cheap way to go and canada post is more expensive. I honestly don't even know how it works, i mean i'm pretty far off the beaten track these days but i can get a 10 dollar item delivered to my door by amazon.  How the eff that works is beyond me but it does, and i get other stuff shipped here by some of the other players who use purolator or fedex etc and fairly cheap items are coming with no shipping costs. 

That's why canada post is getting it's lunch eaten.  Parcels are where the money is at and they're not competitive, 

As far as "without too much trouble", if you mean it'll be pretty easy to implement and people will get used to the changes quickly without too much squaking and life will go on, I agree. The vast majority of people are already doing some sort of community mail box ( i am) or live in an apartment with a mail bank already and the others will get used to it.  And as for not getting mail every day most people these days don't seem to even check their mail every day any more. 

BUT.  From a political point of view this is not going to be a great thing for Carney because it will look yet again like he's  "stepping" on the unions, and even if people agree with what he's doing union leaders and organizers will have a problem with it, and will worry that he might do the same to them. 

If it had just been this then maybe no big deal but they're still choked about how he handled air canada. 

This was the right thing to do but politically he's showing his inexperience in how he handled it. Now we've got a mail strike. 

[herbie]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

Your assessment and criticisms of Carney make it virtually impossible not to support him. If you think you're helping Poilievre's chances I've told you before you're the best argument there is for staying away from him. 

An incomprehensible truth for some people.
And on the issue of the Post Office, the Tories would've ensured it failed even worse so they could justify privatizing it as the only logical' solution. IE: sell Canada Post & Purolator to UPS for a dollar and brag they saved $1 billion loss.

[Shady]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

FIFY.

If Carney fixed climate change, zeroed Canada's credit card, solved world peace and warp sped a cure for cancer you'd be like;

 

Carney hasn’t fixed anything.

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, Shady said:

Carney hasn’t fixed anything.

As I noted he's actually made all of those things worse

[eyeball]

37 minutes ago, Shady said:

Carney hasn’t fixed anything.

Keeping his powder dry?

Sometimes inaction is the right course of action - look at it this way, if nothing moves nothing gets hurt.

24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As I noted he's actually made all of those things worse

Carney made cancer worse?

But notice how everything in the world is getting worse too. That must still just be an effect of Trudeau I guess. He was probably even worse than Trump in that sense. Broke the world.

[Army Guy]

16 hours ago, eyeball said:

FIFY.

If Carney fixed climate change, zeroed Canada's credit card, solved world peace and warp sped a cure for cancer you'd be like;

 

That looks like one painful Sh!t....only liberals sh!t on the street...

[Shady]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Keeping his powder dry?

Sometimes inaction is the right course of action - look at it this way, if nothing moves nothing gets hurt.

Carney made cancer worse?

But notice how everything in the world is getting worse too. That must still just be an effect of Trudeau I guess. He was probably even worse than Trump in that sense. Broke the world.

What’s he waiting for?  Canada is bleeding jobs and foreign investment.  It’s an objective fact that he’s made the budget situation much worse.  Other than that he hasn’t done much of anything.  Hasn’t lifted a finger to lift American tariffs or Chinese tariffs.

[CITIZEN_2015]

They are supposed to give advanced notice for a strike but they didn't. Quite frankly I am fed up with postal workers going on strike. Last time they cost me a late payment. 

[I am Groot]

I honestly don't see how they can do much else, given the absolute garbage of a postal system we have. At the same time, I have to wonder how it is that every single Western country in the world seems able to comfortably afford door-to-door mail delivery EXCEPT Canada. How have we let the postal service become so cost-inefficient that it can't operate without massive yearly losses? And since that can't apparently be fixed due to union agreements, maybe we can start up something new to replace it, maybe call it the Royal Canadian Mail. Maybe we can look at how just about any other Western country operates and do like they do.

[Barquentine]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

nowadays private couriers are the cheap way to go and canada post is more expensive.

Sure, to get an Amazon delivery is cheap, they're subsidizing themselves to sell more (we'll see how long that's tenable). But to send a parcel my experience has always been that CPC is cheaper and more efficient.

If private companies like UPS can can run a shipping company, then CPC can do it and break even, especially when you take out the profit cost. And I like the idea of having a Crown Corp doing it. Private corps can suddenly stop a service if it's not profitable. Think about rural and remote areas. This is a gov't service we need.

[Barquentine]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

BUT.  From a political point of view this is not going to be a great thing for Carney because it will look yet again like he's  "stepping" on the unions

I think public opinion has shifted enough on this issue it'll work out.

[ExFlyer]

20 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Ok, all you guys gotta stop saying stuff i agree with, it's freaking me the eff out  

For the most part i agree,  but interestingly nowadays private couriers are the cheap way to go and canada post is more expensive. I honestly don't even know how it works, i mean i'm pretty far off the beaten track these days but i can get a 10 dollar item delivered to my door by amazon.  How the eff that works is beyond me but it does, and i get other stuff shipped here by some of the other players who use purolator or fedex etc and fairly cheap items are coming with no shipping costs. 

That's why canada post is getting it's lunch eaten.  Parcels are where the money is at and they're not competitive, 

As far as "without too much trouble", if you mean it'll be pretty easy to implement and people will get used to the changes quickly without too much squaking and life will go on, I agree. The vast majority of people are already doing some sort of community mail box ( i am) or live in an apartment with a mail bank already and the others will get used to it.  And as for not getting mail every day most people these days don't seem to even check their mail every day any more. 

BUT.  From a political point of view this is not going to be a great thing for Carney because it will look yet again like he's  "stepping" on the unions, and even if people agree with what he's doing union leaders and organizers will have a problem with it, and will worry that he might do the same to them. 

If it had just been this then maybe no big deal but they're still choked about how he handled air canada. 

This was the right thing to do but politically he's showing his inexperience in how he handled it. Now we've got a mail strike. 

I disagree to a certain extent.

Yes, he is doing the right thing and on top of that, most, if not all, folks realize the union is to blame for the situation Canada Post is in. I am quite sure he will not get any flack for doing what he is doing to the Post Office.

For far too long, the Post Office seemed (and was) untouchable. Time and circumstance has flown past the post office and especially the union and it's members.  

I actually think he is the first PM that has done the right and politically correct thing with former public servants that still think they have some sort of belittlement.