Postal workers back on strike over Canada Post changes, union says

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

WTF are you talking about?

Don't you read your own posts?!?!  I mean.... i can see why you wouldn't, they're not great, but come on man! If i have to YOU have to  

[herbie]

Shitbags! Amazon Sale days and they can't ship a damn thing to my address.
Just did an all day trip to get my minicomputer and it didn't come with the external power supply.

F^&*#@ posties!

Edited October 9, 2025 by herbie

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Shitbags! Amazon Sale days and they can't ship a damn thing to my address.
Just did an all day trip to get my minicomputer and it didn't come with the external power supply.

F^&*#@ posties!

Can't you just have Amazon ship it to their nearest pick up depot? You could pick it up from there.

[ExFlyer]

"Canadians can expect to see some mail moving in their mailboxes again, but not on a regular schedule.

That’s because the union representing Canada Post workers has shifted its strike action to rotating stoppages, which started on Saturday."

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/article/mail-to-move-again-as-canada-post-workers-shift-to-rolling-strike-action/

 

Is the union nuts????

Going on rotating stoppages only proves Canad Posts statements that we do not need 5 day a week delivery.

The union seems to make Canada Posts point. We do not need all the workers. They can cut employees and we will not feel any difference.

Another case of the unions screwing their members and losing their usefulness.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Going on rotating stoppages only proves Canad Posts statements that we do not need 5 day a week delivery.

 

 

Haven't really thought about it but, yeah. That's a valid point. People won't get their mail everyday and they're going to say "this isn't so bad"

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Haven't really thought about it but, yeah. That's a valid point. People won't get their mail everyday and they're going to say "this isn't so bad"

Seems the public is just fine so far.

Yes, some businesses and charities are complaining but, they will find a way if they really want to.

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Seems the public is just fine so far.

Yes, some businesses and charities are complaining but, they will find a way if they really want to.

I don't even know about that so much. In the past it was a pain for businesses because we had to hold our checks to the front desk and contractors had to come pick them up. That is literally thousands and thousands of checks that wound up getting stuck at the front desk as our girls tried to call around and let contractors know that it was ready

But that experience forced us to look at options for doing direct deposit and we now have that capacity. So all our regular contractors and we're just depositing the money directly into their account. That'll continue long after the strike is over, Canada Post is never getting that business back

I must have about half of my regular contractors on that already and we're working on getting the rest over time.

Charity should be able to do the same sort of thing and we've already only accepted invoices by email for years now

The last time there was a strike it was a major inconvenience, it wouldn't have been this time to nearly the same degree, and even though the strike is over we're going to be pushing to get every contractor on board with this as protection against a future shut down

[herbie]

So how much was the decision to go back to rotating strikes affected by the totally lacklustre support for them?
I seem to remember our union having to take 3 years of 0% increase back in the early 1980s wen the country was in a similar mess.

[ExFlyer]

11 minutes ago, herbie said:

So how much was the decision to go back to rotating strikes affected by the totally lacklustre support for them?
I seem to remember our union having to take 3 years of 0% increase back in the early 1980s wen the country was in a similar mess.

I think it is the pressure from the members that is making the union back off.

Members are fully aware they have no public support.

 Member's are also aware the Post office is broke and losing money. Members are starting to be aware the have to minimize the damage they have caused. Members now have to come to grips that they are gong to lose many jobs and have to regroup

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Member's are also aware the Post office is broke and losing money. Members are starting to be aware the have to minimize the damage they have caused. Members now have to come to grips that they are gong to lose many jobs and have to regroup

I wonder if some sort of employee buyout of Canada Post could be negotiated here?

If employees think they could come up with a way to make it work they should be given the chance to do so.

 

 

[ExFlyer]

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I wonder if some sort of employee buyout of Canada Post could be negotiated here?

If employees think they could come up with a way to make it work they should be given the chance to do so.

 

 

Didn't Canada Post say attrition would reduce the ranks??

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, ExFlyer said:

Didn't Canada Post say attrition would reduce the ranks??

Can the ranks that will be left, nevermind everyone else, wait that long and do they even want too if what's written on the wall continues as long?

 

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Didn't Canada Post say attrition would reduce the ranks??

they did but while they did say that was the intent and they felt that would be good enough, they also wouldn't commit to no layoffs along the way (i believe it's a 5 year process they're looking at to reduce service).   so the union isn't satisfied with "we'll do our best", but attrition is ALWAYS cheaper than layoffs, and when you lay people off you're laying off the cheapest employees but attrition takes the most expensive off the board as a rule.  So i'm sure the company will focus on attrition

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Can the ranks that will be left, nevermind everyone else, wait that long and do they even want too if what's written on the wall continues as long?

 

Canada post is supposed to present the 'official' plan to parliament in a month or so but i believe it's supposed to happen over 5 - 9 years where they finish rolling out the community boxes and then start reducing services in various areas. 

 

[herbie]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

I wonder if some sort of employee buyout of Canada Post could be negotiated here?

It should be considered if attrition isn't fast enough but needen't be negotiated. I thing with a 10 year implementation of the plan the bulk of any buyouts will go to management,

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

they did but while they did say that was the intent and they felt that would be good enough, they also wouldn't commit to no layoffs along the way (i believe it's a 5 year process they're looking at to reduce service).   so the union isn't satisfied with "we'll do our best", but attrition is ALWAYS cheaper than layoffs, and when you lay people off you're laying off the cheapest employees but attrition takes the most expensive off the board as a rule.  So i'm sure the company will focus on attrition

Canada post is supposed to present the 'official' plan to parliament in a month or so but i believe it's supposed to happen over 5 - 9 years where they finish rolling out the community boxes and then start reducing services in various areas. 

 

Canada post said everyone will get their mail at community mail boxes. They said there were only 4 million customers getting door to door ( I am one) and that will take 4 years to accomplish. In my mind, it takes a few months to build boxes (using Canadian steel and aluminum LOL) and a few more to install them. Why 4 years?? Who knows. 

Canada Post said over 15,000 will retire over the next 5 years. "A Job Bank report from December 2024 states that 47% of Canadian postal workers were aged 50 and over in 2023.   While the most recent average age is unknown, the high percentage of workers over 50 and the median retirement age suggest that the postal workforce remains older than the average Canadian employee"

[TreeBeard]

Canada Post should focus their budget on rural and remote areas that are only serviced by Canada Post and the private companies won’t service or charge exorbitant rates.   It’s ok to make city slickers walk 100m in the snow to get their mail from a box if it means rural and remote areas are properly serviced.  

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Canada post said everyone will get their mail at community mail boxes. They said there were only 4 million customers getting door to door ( I am one) and that will take 4 years to accomplish. In my mind, it takes a few months to build boxes (using Canadian steel and aluminum LOL) and a few more to install them. Why 4 years?? Who knows. 

Canada Post said over 15,000 will retire over the next 5 years. "A Job Bank report from December 2024 states that 47% of Canadian postal workers were aged 50 and over in 2023.   While the most recent average age is unknown, the high percentage of workers over 50 and the median retirement age suggest that the postal workforce remains older than the average Canadian employee"

Yeah it sounds pretty doable. I could see their concern maybe that perhaps because not all of the people will retire exactly evenly across the country that there may be some instances where there's a few layoffs but very clearly they can do the vast majority of it by attrition and probably all of it

[ExFlyer]

19 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Canada Post should focus their budget on rural and remote areas that are only serviced by Canada Post and the private companies won’t service or charge exorbitant rates.   It’s ok to make city slickers walk 100m in the snow to get their mail from a box if it means rural and remote areas are properly serviced.  

Are you in some way saying Canada Post is not serving rural and remote areas of Canada???   I am pretty sure they are being serviced as they always have been. There was no and is no intent to serve them any less than anywhere in Canada..