I am Groot Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: How about it? If you read a counter to that NP article you'd have seen that it's not an accurate picture of overall living standards as it ignores factors like income distribution, healthcare, and social services. Are you aware that Nunavut has a higher GDP per capita than Texas? Or California? Or New York? Or the entire US? That doesn't give the full picture does it.... No. Which is why the cite you replied to but didn't read mentioned several other measures. 24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Taking your useless articles out of the equation for minute.. All articles are useless when you can't be bothered reading them. 24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: it's been quite obvious for some time now that Canada is lagging economically and in other areas which is why Trudeau was essentially forced out the door last year. It's also the driving reason we had an election. And yet, all the policies that have caused our economy to lag remain in place. 49 minutes ago, eyeball said: He's not Trudeau. No, he's even dumber than Trudeau! 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 59 minutes ago, eyeball said: Goddess should know explicitly given she seems to think she knows everything else about me. So you're saying i was right? LOL 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 11 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So you're saying i was right? LOL No, they're blue. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
LinkSoul60 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 34 minutes ago, I am Groot said: All articles are useless when you can't be bothered reading them. I read them both which is why I commented they were both useless. You still haven't told me what qualifies a newcomer to Canada to be an authority on where immigration levels should be, and as far as GDP is concerned it's not an accurate measure to a provinces/country's real living standards because it doesn't tell you how well it's citizens are doing or how well that economy is doing. 57 minutes ago, I am Groot said: And yet, all the policies that have caused our economy to lag remain in place. Which policies are you referring to....or just a blanket statement? 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: No, he's even dumber than Trudeau! That's a stretch... Taking off conservative blue hat for moment, what qualifies Carney as dumb to you? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 45 minutes ago, eyeball said: No, they're blue. Sure they are 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Sure they are How do you know? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ironstone Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 (edited) This one image pretty nicely sums up 10 plus years of Liberal policies. Bill Blair's constituency office a few doors down from a food bank with a long line up. ( Bill doesn't care as he's been appointed as Canada's High Commissioner to the UK) Edited February 27 by ironstone 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
CdnFox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 3 hours ago, eyeball said: How do you know? It's easy. You like constantly so whatever you say they are it's probably the opposite You're kind of predictable 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 On 2/24/2026 at 8:30 AM, CdnFox said: That is simply not true. Do you honestly believe that somehow they managed to grow additional canola in the middle of winter? The tariffs haven't even come down yet. The steel doesn't even come into effect until March. So you're trying to say that the Chinese, knowing that the price is about to drop radically in a month or so, got so excited that they spent massively more money to buy product at twice the price that they would have in a month? If you have to lie to make a point, you don't have a very good point Hey little Fxx.... any more links or info you need to validate the agreement you insist never happened? Let me know 🤡 China suspending some agricultural tariffs on Canada starting March 1 China to suspend 100% tariffs on Canadian canola, 25% tariffs on lobster, crab Thomson Reuters · Posted: Feb 27, 2026 5:53 AM PST | Last Updated: 24 minutes ago China said on Friday it would suspend some tariffs on Canadian agricultural products imposed during a trade spat between Beijing and Ottawa, after Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney struck an initial deal with China during a visit in January. China will suspend 100 per cent tariffs on Canadian canola meal and pea imports and will halt 25 per cent tariffs on lobster and crab imports from March 1 through the end of 2026, the finance ministry said in a statement. The outcome broadly aligns with Carney's expectations. But the Chinese announcement made no mention of canola seed tariffs, which Carney had previously said would be lowered by March 1. Ottawa expected Beijing to lower canola seed tariffs to a combined rate of about 15 per cent from the current 84 per cent. A probe into Canadian canola is set to conclude on March 9, the Chinese commerce ministry has said. "One thing we do know is that Chinese buyers have been booking Canadian canola cargoes for March already. That gives me a pretty high degree of confidence that they're going to follow through on the reduced tariff rate," said Even Rogers Pay, director at Beijing-based consultancy Trivium China. Canola oil and pork were also not mentioned in the statement. But Beijing could still announce further adjustments by the March 1 deadline previewed by Carney. China was Canada's second-largest market for canola in 2024. The suspensions come amid a wave of visits to Beijing by Western leaders as U.S. President Donald Trump's trade policies have strained Washington's traditional alliances. China has sought to present itself as a more stable and reliable economic partner in contrast. Carney went further than his European counterparts by securing a deal with China and signalling Canada's ambition to play a leading role in a new global trade order aimed at reducing dependence on the United States. During his China trip, Carney pledged to allow into Canada up to 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles at a tariff of 6.1 per cent on most-favored-nation terms. 1 Quote
ironstone Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 Atlantic Canada gets natural gas shipment… from Australia, not Alberta Atlantic Canada is set to receive its first shipment of Australian liquified natural gas after shipping it 25,000 kilometres across the ocean instead of purchasing Canadian LNG directly from Alberta. https://www.junonews.com/p/atlantic-canada-gets-natural-gas How on earth does this make sense? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
CdnFox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Hey little Fxx.... any more links or info you need to validate the agreement you insist never happened? Let me know 🤡 China suspending some agricultural tariffs on Canada starting March 1 China to suspend 100% tariffs on Canadian canola, 25% tariffs on lobster, crab Thomson Reuters · Posted: Feb 27, 2026 5:53 AM PST | Last Updated: 24 minutes ago China said on Friday it would suspend some tariffs on Canadian agricultural products imposed during a trade spat between Beijing and Ottawa, after Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney struck an initial deal with China during a visit in January. China will suspend 100 per cent tariffs on Canadian canola meal and pea imports and will halt 25 per cent tariffs on lobster and crab imports from March 1 through the end of 2026, the finance ministry said in a statement. The outcome broadly aligns with Carney's expectations. But the Chinese announcement made no mention of canola seed tariffs, which Carney had previously said would be lowered by March 1. Ottawa expected Beijing to lower canola seed tariffs to a combined rate of about 15 per cent from the current 84 per cent. A probe into Canadian canola is set to conclude on March 9, the Chinese commerce ministry has said. "One thing we do know is that Chinese buyers have been booking Canadian canola cargoes for March already. That gives me a pretty high degree of confidence that they're going to follow through on the reduced tariff rate," said Even Rogers Pay, director at Beijing-based consultancy Trivium China. Canola oil and pork were also not mentioned in the statement. But Beijing could still announce further adjustments by the March 1 deadline previewed by Carney. China was Canada's second-largest market for canola in 2024. The suspensions come amid a wave of visits to Beijing by Western leaders as U.S. President Donald Trump's trade policies have strained Washington's traditional alliances. China has sought to present itself as a more stable and reliable economic partner in contrast. Carney went further than his European counterparts by securing a deal with China and signalling Canada's ambition to play a leading role in a new global trade order aimed at reducing dependence on the United States. During his China trip, Carney pledged to allow into Canada up to 49,000 Chinese electric vehicles at a tariff of 6.1 per cent on most-favored-nation terms. This is why I said you can't consider it a deal. They've changed what he thought they were going to remove tariffs on and although this is better news than nothing it still leaves our farmers with a significant tariff on canola. And in exchange we gave them our car market. These are not great things for us, especially when the chinese can raise that tariff back up to 100% on meal tomorrow. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
I am Groot Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 14 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: I read them both which is why I commented they were both useless. You still haven't told me what qualifies a newcomer to Canada to be an authority on where immigration levels should be, The same as all the other Canadians who want the flood of drooling, unskilled, 80 IQ migrants flooding into Canada to stop. Wait! Are you... are you operating under the belief that immigration levels are based on some kind of formula or assessment of Canada's economic needs? You can't be that dumb! Canada's immigration levels have not been based on our economic needs for at least forty years. They're based on political pandering to ethnic voting blocs, the desire to keep house prices up to please boomers, and the desire to lower wages to please corporations. 14 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: .Which policies are you referring to....or just a blanket statement? The policy to strangle all natural resource industries as well as all other polluting industries so as to achieve net zero goals. 14 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: That's a stretch... Taking off conservative blue hat for moment, what qualifies Carney as dumb to you? Anyone who bases decisions on ideology rather than known facts is dumb. This man is alleged to be an economist, and yet takes dumb positions like saying immigration levels don't affect housing costs, and supports an absurd desire to lower our CO2 emissions at all costs despite a mathematical certainty that this will accomplish absolutely nothing while being extremely damaging to our economy and society. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
CdnFox Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, I am Groot said: The same as all the other Canadians who want the flood of drooling, unskilled, 80 IQ migrants flooding into Canada to stop. Wait! Are you... are you operating under the belief that immigration levels are based on some kind of formula or assessment of Canada's economic needs? You can't be that dumb! Canada's immigration levels have not been based on our economic needs for at least forty years. They're based on political pandering to ethnic voting blocs, the desire to keep house prices up to please boomers, and the desire to lower wages to please corporations. The policy to strangle all natural resource industries as well as all other polluting industries so as to achieve net zero goals. Anyone who bases decisions on ideology rather than known facts is dumb. This man is alleged to be an economist, and yet takes dumb positions like saying immigration levels don't affect housing costs, and supports an absurd desire to lower our CO2 emissions at all costs despite a mathematical certainty that this will accomplish absolutely nothing while being extremely damaging to our economy and society. Actually immigration was based largely on our economic needs. Most of harpers time. He made a number of changes to that effect. Pretty much all parties and immigrants praised him for how well he managed that and research shows that the drain caused by immigration actually changed into a small net benefit as a result. But that was for a short. Of time in our history and it all got thrown out under Trudeau so.... 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: It's easy. You like constantly so whatever you say they are it's probably the opposite You're kind of predictable My apologies, I should have said they're orange. A shade of Khmer actually. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
I am Groot Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 34 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Actually immigration was based largely on our economic needs. Most of harpers time. He made a number of changes to that effect. Pretty much all parties and immigrants praised him for how well he managed that and research shows that the drain caused by immigration actually changed into a small net benefit as a result. But that was for a short. Of time in our history and it all got thrown out under Trudeau so.... Sorry, but no. He did make some small changes in hopes of getting more skilled immigrants, but we didn't need immigration in the numbers we got, and in fact, they came in such great numbers we were not able to absorb them, as Immigration Canada warned a year or so after he left office in a study based on statistics from the 2016 census. Why didn't he cut immigration? Because he was too scared to challenge the liberal narrative that immigration, in whatever numbers, was an unparalleled good and only racists and xenophobes would dare to want less of it. Just as Scheer was too scared to challenge it. Just as O'Toole was too scared to challenge it. I don't know that Poilievre ever WANTED to challenge it. He finally did last year, forced by his base, too little too late. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
Goddess Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 Immigration minister finally admits that they brought in far too many for far too long and that it did, indeed, affect our housing, infrastructure and health services. They've spent the last 5 years convincing their voter base that that Conservatives pointing this out, are racist, Nazi pigs. That's why folks like eyeball think the Conservatives are racist, Nazi pigs, playing to their racist, Nazi pig base. But it turns out, the racist, Nazi pigs were right all along. This will not change eyeball's mind. He is hard-wired now. The lie is his reality and there's no changing it. 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: Why didn't he cut immigration? Because he was too scared to challenge the liberal narrative that immigration, in whatever numbers, was an unparalleled good and only racists and xenophobes would dare to want less of it. I didn't want it because it only contributes to the increasingly unsustainable state of Canada's ecosystems and the impact of that to our economy...for decades now. That said, it's obvious why hundreds of millions will be trying to flee increasingly drawn down regions of the world to places deemed more productive and habitable. We haven't seen anything yet in terms of human migrations or the desperation driving them. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Solipsistik Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 I came in really late to this one. I have so much to say that I don't even know where to start. But for kicks, here's this: https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/damien-c-kurek-the-double-standard-surrounding-pm-carney-is-impossible-to-ignore/ The Liberals have removed our ability to get real news and real information from our national reporting. They deny it every chance they get. Just one of the things irking me hard today, with their two Liberal press releases that were dutifully read out as "news" by CBC and CTV to say that East Indians are no longer fomenting Sikh violence in Canada, and that India is no longer interfering in our governance. If they say it 3 times, it must be doubleplus good, amirite?! Quote
I am Groot Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I didn't want it because it only contributes to the increasingly unsustainable state of Canada's ecosystems and the impact of that to our economy...for decades now. That said, it's obvious why hundreds of millions will be trying to flee increasingly drawn down regions of the world to places deemed more productive and habitable. We haven't seen anything yet in terms of human migrations or the desperation driving them. Which is why we need to get control of our borders and our immigration and refugee system NOW. We cannot continue with a system whereby it takes years of court battles and tens of thousands of dollars in legal costs to get rid of someone who shouldn't be here in the first place. Not when dealing with hundreds of thousands, if not millions of illegals. It is simply not possible, even if we could arrest the three million people whose visas are ending this year, and then deport them. We need to make it almost impossible for them to live and work here, including policing and stopping remittance payments to their families back home, so they'll leave on their own. Then we need to turn them back new ones at the border or detain them for quick hearings, which are not subject to court interventions, and deport the vast majority. Note. I do not see the Liberals being willing to do any of this. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
LinkSoul60 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: This is why I said you can't consider it a deal. They've changed what he thought they were going to remove tariffs on and although this is better news than nothing it still leaves our farmers with a significant tariff on canola. And in exchange we gave them our car market. These are not great things for us, especially when the chinese can raise that tariff back up to 100% on meal tomorrow. You are hands down the most uneducated and blatantly partisan hack imaginable! Because of your ignorant bias you somehow don't understand what the word 'deal' means. Calling you a clown doesn't do your foolishness justice, and isn't fair to clowns everywhere.... 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 36 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Note. I do not see the Liberals being willing to do any of this. Do you see Canadians willing to line our borders with machine guns and cannons? There's going to be around 1.5 billion humans on the move by 2050. 40 minutes ago, I am Groot said: hundreds of thousands, if not millions You're literally worrying about mice-nuts in comparison to what's coming. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
LinkSoul60 Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 4 hours ago, I am Groot said: The same as all the other Canadians who want the flood of drooling, unskilled, 80 IQ migrants flooding into Canada to stop. Wait! Are you... are you operating under the belief that immigration levels are based on some kind of formula or assessment of Canada's economic needs? You can't be that dumb! Canada's immigration levels have not been based on our economic needs for at least forty years. They're based on political pandering to ethnic voting blocs, the desire to keep house prices up to please boomers, and the desire to lower wages to please corporations. There are 80 IQ people out here...your point is what? I'll peg you lower than that if you can't tell me what makes a newcomer to Canada an authority on what immigration levels should be. Maybe the 4th time I've asked so last chance.... You should understand that immigration has been dialled back but that the levels required are determined by province in consultation with government and business to level set the labor force needed and demographic goals. Your belief that something sinister is going on to prop boomers home equity and lower wages doesn't carry any weight whatsoever. 4 hours ago, I am Groot said: The policy to strangle all natural resource industries as well as all other polluting industries so as to achieve net zero goals. Huh..??? There is a ramp up in mining, LNG terminals, TMX, and our O&G industry has record breaking production. Beyond that we're trying to attract new investment for industry. Exactly who is being strangled right now because of environmental policies? 4 hours ago, I am Groot said: Anyone who bases decisions on ideology rather than known facts is dumb. This man is alleged to be an economist, and yet takes dumb positions like saying immigration levels don't affect housing costs, and supports an absurd desire to lower our CO2 emissions at all costs despite a mathematical certainty that this will accomplish absolutely nothing while being extremely damaging to our economy and society. If only he had your business, economic and environmental acumen.... 1 Quote
I am Groot Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Do you see Canadians willing to line our borders with machine guns and cannons? The Americans will do that. We just have to catch those who evade them. The important part isn't catching, but booting them out without spending years in courts doing it. 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're literally worrying about mice-nuts in comparison to what's coming. Am I? Add up all the costs for millions of people who aren't paying taxes but are using government services, from roads to healthcare. It's tens of billions a year. You could build a pretty high wall for that. Millions if not billions of decent, ordinary people in need of food, clean water, shelter and medical care are bound to constitute a form of moral blackmail. They will all have heartbreaking stories. And if we continue to confront the issue as a question of sympathy rather than existential self-interest, they will nearly all get in. Thomas Friedman has astutely characterised the West vs the rest as order vs disorder. But with overstressed welfare systems, accelerating cultural upheaval and rising right-wing militancy, the lands of order can slide to chaos themselves. If in the next few decades we’re looking at migration on the scale I think we are, we may be required to develop a hard heart, or simply surrender to forces larger than we can control. I’m not sure which is worse. Personally, I'm all for developing a hard heart. https://archive.is/blKvW 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
ironstone Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 One year of Carney is fast approaching, and he's riding high in the polls. But how are Canadians any better off after one year of his leadership, putting aside the previous ten years? Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted February 27 Report Posted February 27 5 hours ago, ironstone said: Atlantic Canada gets natural gas shipment… from Australia, not Alberta Atlantic Canada is set to receive its first shipment of Australian liquified natural gas after shipping it 25,000 kilometres across the ocean instead of purchasing Canadian LNG directly from Alberta. https://www.junonews.com/p/atlantic-canada-gets-natural-gas How on earth does this make sense? It doesn't but, considering New Brunswick will not allow fracking to get the gas out and Quebec will not allow pipelines through...it is the only way to get natural gas. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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