Pierre Calls For An End To Temporary Worker Program.

[Shady]

24 minutes ago, herbie said:

It is anything BUT in Canada. Get the f*ck out of the big city, the f*cking country is empty.

Eby wants better controlled not ended. There are many jobs that shouldn't be filled with TFWs. Hand out some Trade School scholarships to high schoolers - get proactive.

You want high school and college/university students to do trade jobs while they’re in school?  That makes absolutely no sense at all.  You expect students to be electricians part time on weekends and during the summer?  Put the crack pipe down son.

I don’t know about Pierre, but I did find somebody that will talk about the problem, and not actually do anything about it. 🤣

#Ragebait

[herbie]

Oh hell very few working adults figured that one out either. One lawyer i know did, but moved here during Covid and he was like 86... passed away last summer.

These places are so underserviced they're screaming for people. And the entire economy everywhere is swinging into make your own employment, not depend on someone else to offer you a 'job' like your Daddy and Grampa did.

The whole back to work thing centres around middle managers unable to exist without employees under their nose to micro-manage. They knew they're next on the chopping block and had a shit fit.

[SpankyMcFarland]

54 minutes ago, Shady said:

You want high school and college/university students to do trade jobs while they’re in school?  That makes absolutely no sense at all.  You expect students to be electricians part time on weekends and during the summer?  Put the crack pipe down son.

I don’t know about Pierre, but I did find somebody that will talk about the problem, and not actually do anything about it. 🤣

#Ragebait

PP is a salesman like all politicians. In the real world the answers are never easy. Give us the hard truth you propose. Without a temporary foreign worker program, who is going to work in the the nursing homes, clean my house or make my sub sandwich and how much more is it going to cost if indeed somebody is prepared to do it? Before the recent group of foreign workers arrived our fast food restaurants were working severely reduced hours. Some were closed. In my town I see very few young Canadian adults around. Are you telling us Atlantic Canadians to move to where? Southern Ontario? Red Deer? I wouldn’t even dare suggest a southern BC city option. 

Edited September 6, 2025 by SpankyMcFarland

[herbie]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

There's no fish or logs left to harvest here

There's still wood but the mills, holy shit. One modernized and cut workforce in half, another kist did and cut the workforce from 350+ to around 70 ppl. Used to be 350 loads of logs a day headed out of town for other mills, there's still 100 -120.
But they 'centralized' the gas, phone, cable, forestry and hydro workers to deliver shitty service for higher prices - that hurt big too.

But the Band Offices reopened closed hatcheries around here and that was 4 years ago. Guess what? Enjoy the fish! 

From what I've seen I think if you build up to a population of 10,000 towns become pretty much self sustaining. 

But you have a point, the fish and the wood and the mines don't last forever. Albertans look at your future FFS, We're not Voyager's Kazon that strip mine a planet and just fly off to conquer and strip mine the next one.

[Aristides]

The TFW program has been badly handled but getting rid of it would be a disaster for agriculture. 

[CouchPotato]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The TFW program has been badly handled but getting rid of it would be a disaster for agriculture. 

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Under this urgently-needed plan, the Temporary Foreign Workers program would be permanently abolished with a separate, standalone program for legitimately difficult-to-fill agricultural labour. For ultra-low-unemployment regions, there will be a transition period of, at most, five years while the program winds down, but no new permits will be issued anywhere in Canada

https://www.conservative.ca/end-the-tfw-program/

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

Nobody is a refugee from climate change.  Especially in Canada, where it would actually be beneficial.

Almost 70000 Canadians have been evacuated from wildfires this year. The scope and scale of which are increasing along with increasing climate change. I don't know if any one benefited from that. A few hotels and such I suppose.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, Aristides said:

The TFW program has been badly handled but getting rid of it would be a disaster for agriculture. 

"AHHH! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!"

Get a grip on yourself.

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Almost 70000 Canadians have been evacuated from wildfires this year. The scope and scale of which are increasing along with increasing climate change. I don't know if any one benefited from that. A few hotels and such I suppose.

Oops...forest fire.

"CLIMATE CHANGE! AHHH! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!"

Pathetic.

[Legato]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

Wildfires and their proliferation driven by climate change  throughout Canada.

You mean by poor forest management and arsonists.

Refugee's!!!?????

[Shady]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

Almost 70000 Canadians have been evacuated from wildfires this year. The scope and scale of which are increasing along with increasing climate change. I don't know if any one benefited from that. A few hotels and such I suppose.

Arson isn’t climate change.  Regardless, that doesn’t make someone a refugee in their own country.

9 hours ago, Aristides said:

The TFW program has been badly handled but getting rid of it would be a disaster for agriculture. 

That’s why agriculture isn’t part of the proposal.

[Aristides]

58 minutes ago, Legato said:

You mean by poor forest management and arsonists.

Refugee's!!!?????

On consecutive days, two places in BC just recorded the highest temperatures ever recorded in Canada during September. Both over 40 degrees C. One day of rain on the south coast in August and none so far in September. Could have something to do with it. Ya think?

[SpankyMcFarland]

37 minutes ago, Shady said:

Arson isn’t climate change.  Regardless, that doesn’t make someone a refugee in their own country.

That’s why agriculture isn’t part of the proposal.

We’ll never completely eliminate arson as a cause of wildfires but the new factor is climate change. This summer the Avalon peninsula, normally a notoriously cold, foggy and damp place, was swept by fires. Some are suspected of being arson but the real problem was how they took hold once they started.  Across the province, all we could do was hold our breath and pray for rain. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

I fear we are going to be talking about megafires every summer in Canada for the foreseeable future. For us the Pyrocene is well under way. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Refugee's

Yup, people evacuated from wildfires had to seek refuge elsewhere.

It happens during floods too.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Yup, people evacuated from wildfires had to seek refuge elsewhere.

It happens during floods too.

Refugees in your own country? Quit with the dramatics, your fooling no one.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

Refugees in your own country? Quit with the dramatics, your fooling no one.

You're trying to tell me refugee and evacuee are not synonymous? There's some political or ideological aspect that turns them into opposite terms?

Quit with the semantics, you're only fooling yourself.

[Legato]

51 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You're trying to tell me refugee and evacuee are not synonymous? There's some political or ideological aspect that turns them into opposite terms?

Quit with the semantics, you're only fooling yourself.

Your description not mine.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

Your description not mine.

In any case, we can probably count on having to accommodate 10's of thousands of internally displaced Canadians year after year going forward due to the worsening effects of climate change.

Of course if wildfire smoke is plant food and fire ravaged areas are new farmland then sure we should be able to bring in millions.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

In any case, we can probably count on having to accommodate 10's of thousands of internally displaced Canadians year after year going forward due to the worsening effects of climate change.

Of course if wildfire smoke is plant food and fire ravaged areas are new farmland then sure we should be able to bring in millions.

Put the bong down.

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Put the bong down.

Tell that to the people of Jasper and Ft. Mac.

Edited September 6, 2025 by Aristides

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Tell that to the people of Jasper and Ft. Mac.

Why? Because poor forest management and short sided bullshit is climate change?

[Aristides]

5 minutes ago, Legato said:

Why? Because poor forest management and short sided bullshit is climate change?

What poor forest management?

[herbie]

4 hours ago, Legato said:

You mean by poor forest management and arsonists.

No it's the decreasing number of smokers making up for it by flinging far more butts out the window. 
Just making similar stupid claims to avoid the real issue. 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

No it's the decreasing number of smokers making up for it by flinging far more butts out the window. 
Just making similar stupid claims to avoid the real issue. 

Must be pot smokers.

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

What poor forest management?

You know this, stop the poor me act. 

 

Factors Contributing to Poor Forest Management

Emphasis on Monoculture:

Forestry practices that focus on maximizing timber yield, often through clear-cutting and promoting uniform stands of commercially valuable conifer species, can make forests less diverse and more susceptible to pests and diseases. 

Failure to Adopt Natural Fire Regimes:

Recognizing the ecological role of fire, some experts advocate for a more balanced approach, including the controlled use of prescribed burns and wildfire use, to restore more natural fire regimes. 

Inadequate Funding and Political Will:

There are claims that insufficient funding has been allocated to proactive forest management, and that political priorities sometimes override the need for ecologically sound fire prevention measures like prescribed burns. 

Inadequate Retention Harvesting:

Even with improved techniques like retention harvesting, which aims to leave some trees and woody debris after logging, current practices do not adequately replicate the natural ecosystem dynamics that fire would. 

Fire Suppression and Fuel Buildup:

A century of attempting to extinguish all forest fires has inadvertently allowed large amounts of flammable material (fuel) to accumulate. This creates conditions for more severe and widespread fires when they do occur. 

Consequences of Poor Management

Increased Fire Severity:

Uniform forests with high fuel loads are more prone to uncontrollable, large-scale wildfires. 

Reduced Forest Resilience:

Less diverse forests are less able to adapt to changing conditions, including climate change. 

Threats to Communities:

The greater risk of catastrophic wildfires poses a significant threat to the safety and well-being of communities located in and around forested areas. 

Loss of Biodiversity:

Practices that create less diverse forests can harm the multitude of species that rely on these ecosystems for survival. 

1 hour ago, herbie said:

No it's the decreasing number of smokers making up for it by flinging far more butts out the window. 
Just making similar stupid claims to avoid the real issue. 

Bong leaking"